Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Psychology Today

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Clint

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Amused wrote:
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Atheism and capitalism are not incompatible. Stick a giant "exhibit A" sticker on Ayn Rand. Capitalism is an economic system, atheism is merely a disbelief that there is a god, a belief (or lack thereof) which is compatible with any form of economy.
That said, clearly an unalloyed capitalism leads inevitably to a concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands. This disparity leads to social instability, as the haves become more wealthy and the have-nots become poorer. That is ultimately unsustainable, as eventually the have-nots will have so little investment in the social order that a violent re-ordering of society will result. In Europe, this fact has been recognized, and capitalism continues in a hybrid form, with elements of socialism mixed in to keep the wealth disparity modulated, and to assure that the have-nots get enough to stave off general discontent. Even in the US, the government has intervened several times to re-set the economy, similar to a cook reducing the heat to keep the pot from boiling over. First, Teddy Roosevelt and the "trust busters" broke up the combinations that were suppressing competition and promoting the concentration of wealth. Then, FDR's New Deal created a safety net which mitigated the poverty prevalent during the depression. This reduced the pressure in society the same way a safety valve on a boiler would. After WWII, massive government spending on defense, coupled with the GI Bill creatied opportunities for large numbers of veterans to go to college and buy homes. This led to a boom in the middle class, and narrowed the income gap between the wealthiest and the rest of the nation.
Since then, we have seen yet another period of great consolidation of wealth in a smaller and smaller portion of the population. At the same time, business has fundamentally changed. From a nation of small businesses, we have become a nation of mega-corporations. I am old enough to remember when pharmacies were owned by the pharmacist behind the counter. There were supermarkets, but there were also small corner butcher shops. Most banks were local banks, and when they loaned you money, they did not sell your mortgage off to investors, leaving you to deal with 'servicers' located hundreds of miles away from you. Now, opening an independent pharmacy or butcher shop would be financial suicide, as the chains can exploit their size and economies of scale to out advertise you and to deliver the same product more cheaply. Local banks have mostly been devoured by the mega-banks. Just try opening a hamburger stand in competition with McDonalds, BK and Wendy's. That will work. Try finding a local hardware store.
Unless there is another 'safety valve' moment, capitalism will reach its final form, with a privileged permanent elite and a permanent underclass. If you are not already a wealthy CEO, guess which group you will be in.
I will be in the group I create for myself.Capitalism has afforded me the opportunity to achieve success on my owm terms.Capitalism evolves just like everything else.It works just fine despite the disparity mantra voiced by malcontents .Egalitarian utopias are a pipe dream.
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I pray Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.(Luke 23:34)
God forgive those who do not believe.

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Capitalism is the only hope humanity has to survive and flourish.
Oh, you're advocating capitalism like that of Union Carbide in Bhopal, India?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster

And US-run farming that uses pesticides on land harvested by manual labour, leading to birth defects like a baby with no arms or legs?

http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysi...

And United Fruit in Ecuador and elsewhere?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit

And IBM and Cocacola in Nazi Germany?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holo...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coc...

And Nike's use of child slave labour?

http://ihscslnews.org/view_article.php...

And Walmart's use of child slave labour?

ihscslnews.org/view_article.php...

And Apple's use of slave labour and appalling conditions in China?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/feb...

And Pepsico's use of slave labour in Burma?

http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1996/3/7/re...

Ah, so THAT's what you're in favour of, uncheck and unregulated "capitalism" that hurts and kills people without any legal responsibility. Now we know what sort of "person" you are.

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I pray Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.(Luke 23:34)
God forgive those who do not believe.
Translation:

"Hey,'god', kill these people for me, because I'm too chicken shit to go to jail by killing them myself!"
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Does this include the perverted 'religion' practiced by muslims?
The 'religion' of violence and destruction.

Did you ever notice that atheists NEVER condemm islam?

Is it because atheists are masquerading as muslims to abolish Christianity?

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No they don't;....
And at that your argument falls down.
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.....in God is something personal......
Then why do godbots try to ram it down peoples throats?
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A believer doesn't have to prove his/her belief.
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They do if they wish gain traction.
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......Has anyone forced you to believe in God?......
They have tried and failed, ever heard of the Mormons?
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Spirituality will never be an exact science like mathematics.
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1. Math is not a science it is a language.
2. Spirituality can never be a science, it's mythology.
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Some people need spirituality, other don't.
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Only the weak believe in myths
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By the way, I would class myself as agnostic, although raised as a Christian......
I was raised RC, until I realized the bibull had more holes than a piece of Swiss cheese.
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..... But I have admired the faith of some people around me at times. I just don't share it, but never felt the need to dismiss it.
Why?

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Of course you can prove a negative.
There is no full size living African elephant in my garage.
Two plus two is not seven.
Perhaps I need to be more specific, unfortunately I forgot the godbot's lack a basic education.

When dealing with small sets with real values then a negative may be proved.

When dealing with extremely large sets for example all the grains of sand on all the beaches, in the world.
One could not say there no grains of sand which are blue with GT stripes unless you look at each grain.

However when you are dealing with a set that can not be measured in the first place.

Then the negative can not be proved and it is up the person making the claim to prove their statement.

i.e. If I make the claim; there is a god and that god is an Invisible Pink Unicorn. Then is for me to prove it, not for you to disprove my statement.

If you disagree with me prove that god is not an Invisible Pink Unicorn.
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atheist,islam,moham-mad,sinner ,terrorist,desease these all are nearest in meaning to themselves.finish one all will be finish from earth
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I pray Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.(Luke 23:34)
God forgive those who do not believe.
Fuckoff you patronising gullible fucktardcunt, people like you make me sick
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Then why do godbots try to ram it down peoples throats?
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They do if they wish gain traction.
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They have tried and failed, ever heard of the Mormons?
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Why?
You have as many zealous folks among believers as among atheists. They will try to convince you of the "truth" and get you on their side.

Prosilytism is a duty for some religions.
Have the Mormons actually "forced" you to embrasse their religion, or have they just annoyed you with their approach?

I just respect other people's religion, and I have seen that it give some inner strength to some, mostly in time of hardship.

Personally, it's not the belief in God that gets me, but the fact of belonging to an organised religion with its hierarchy, its dogma and its set of rules that put me off.
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Personally, it's not the belief in God that gets me, but the fact of belonging to an organised religion with its hierarchy, its dogma and its set of rules that put me off.
"dogma" you do not belong to a poltical party? You are in agreement 100%? No one agrees 100% with any thing including a religion.
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Oh, you're advocating capitalism like that of Union Carbide in Bhopal, India?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhopal_disaster
And US-run farming that uses pesticides on land harvested by manual labour, leading to birth defects like a baby with no arms or legs?
http://www.theecologist.org/News/news_analysi...
And United Fruit in Ecuador and elsewhere?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Fruit
And IBM and Cocacola in Nazi Germany?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holo...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Coc...
And Nike's use of child slave labour?
http://ihscslnews.org/view_article.php...
And Walmart's use of child slave labour?
ihscslnews.org/view_article.php...
And Apple's use of slave labour and appalling conditions in China?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/feb...
And Pepsico's use of slave labour in Burma?
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/1996/3/7/re...
Ah, so THAT's what you're in favour of, uncheck and unregulated "capitalism" that hurts and kills people without any legal responsibility. Now we know what sort of "person" you are.
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Actually based on the content of our respective posts we know what kind of person "you" are. The kind that rushes to judgement. The glass is always half empty.Another zealot.

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You have as many zealous folks among believers as among atheists. They will try to convince you of the "truth" and get you on their side.
Prosilytism is a duty for some religions.
Have the Mormons actually "forced" you to embrasse their religion, or have they just annoyed you with their approach?
I just respect other people's religion, and I have seen that it give some inner strength to some, mostly in time of hardship.
Personally, it's not the belief in God that gets me, but the fact of belonging to an organised religion with its hierarchy, its dogma and its set of rules that put me off.
Religion requires no respect. The idiots who follow it are liars of the highest order.

Dangerous cults like these are thankfully being exposed and the followers helped by increasingly educated and progressive societies.

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<quoted text> Actually based on the content of our respective posts we know what kind of person "you" are. The kind that rushes to judgement. The glass is always half empty.Another zealot.
It's ironic that YOU claim to know what kind of person he is. And YOU claim HE rushes to JUDGEMENT!!

Another example of how hypocritical and foolish theists can be when confronted with their own words.
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It's ironic that YOU claim to know what kind of person he is. And YOU claim HE rushes to JUDGEMENT!!
Another example of how hypocritical and foolish theists can be when confronted with their own words.
Theres that thin skin again.Feeling put upon? You my touchy friend have offered more than enough words for one to form and offer a valid supportable opinion of.The judgement of my post was based on asssumptions.

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Theres that thin skin again.Feeling put upon? You my touchy friend have offered more than enough words for one to form and offer a valid supportable opinion of.The judgement of my post was based on asssumptions.
And still you provde no proof of god and no apology for lying to everyone here about your hallucinations.

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paarsurrey wrote:
The statement that Atheism will defeat religion is also faith-based.
That is incorrect. My statement is a belief founded in evidence. I provided the evidence - the extrapolated ARIS data - in a link for those that are influenced by such a thing. Iīm going out on a limb here and guessing that you didnīt even look at it.

Faith based thinking is when you consider something a stone cold fact without supporting evidence, or as in the case of the return of Jesus, despite evidence to the contrary. My comment nothing like that.
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I won't defend the mal-practices of the Church.
Good thinking. Theyīre indefensible, not to mention arguments that such decadence speaks against any good godīs involvement.
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Yet there is no evidence that atheists are never involved in such things. I think you will agree with me.
I donīt see the relevance.

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Translation:
"Hey,'god', kill these people for me, because I'm too chicken shit to go to jail by killing them myself!"
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"God forgive those who do not believe" and you got "kill these people for me" from it? you need to see your shrink real soon,before you start hurting people
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And still you provde no proof of god and no apology for lying to everyone here about your hallucinations.
Your blatant dishonesty forces me to once again request you PRODUCE any post of mine that you are supposedly addressing.You still haven't done so on other threads we are chatting on.More fabrication as a method mounting some offense while detracting from the original issues I raised.Transparent.
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Can't come soon enough. Religious zealots are ruining life in America. They drag education into this rabbit hole, separate people, and a lot of other stuff I don't like.

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