Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24182 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22543 Jul 1, 2014
I can read wrote:
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Never. The evidence will remain in the ground forever.
One of the reasons the flood story is scientifically proven to be untrue. The evidence tells us there are parts of the earth which have been above sea level for longer than the human race has existed.
Also, there isn't enough matter on earth. If you converted all the hydrogen and oxygen into water, there still wouldn't be enough to flood the earth.
You do not know the Quranic version of the study of flood.

No where in Quran it says that "whole earth" was engulfed in water. It only speaks about Noah and his people.

It could well be a localized affair, where the water level suddenly rose to cover even the mountains in that area.

No one survived except those who were in the Ark, and that according to Quran, did contain "some more people" than the family of Noah.

Human race flourished once again thru these people. It was after Noah that humans spread to all parts of world, before that they were living in one particular area.

Quran does not mention any date for the flood.

There are hardly any objection on Quranic version from any side.

But Jews and Christians simply say that Quran just copied it from their books, look at how Quran avoids "all the pitfalls" where Biblical tale has lead into.

This itself is a Big Miracle, which hand "prevented" our prophet not to copy these things?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22544 Jul 1, 2014
Thinking wrote:
islam is boring.
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Islam is not boring, it is your low level of understanding that makes such "boring" comments come out from your fingers.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#22545 Jul 1, 2014
koranic irrigation for scientific illiterates like you, wahabi.
MUQ1 wrote:
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You do not know the Quranic version of the study of flood.
No where in Quran it says that "whole earth" was engulfed in water. It only speaks about Noah and his people.
It could well be a localized affair, where the water level suddenly rose to cover even the mountains in that area.
No one survived except those who were in the Ark, and that according to Quran, did contain "some more people" than the family of Noah.
Human race flourished once again thru these people. It was after Noah that humans spread to all parts of world, before that they were living in one particular area.
Quran does not mention any date for the flood.
There are hardly any objection on Quranic version from any side.
But Jews and Christians simply say that Quran just copied it from their books, look at how Quran avoids "all the pitfalls" where Biblical tale has lead into.
This itself is a Big Miracle, which hand "prevented" our prophet not to copy these things?
Thinking

Poole, UK

#22546 Jul 1, 2014
islam is boring.

On the recent news:
sunni v shiite war in the levant.
More muslim paedophiles arrested, this time in Banbury, UK.
islamic attempts to stop the French burkha ban (the islamists lost, btw)
UK policewoman required to wear a towel on her head to visit a Birmingham, UK mosque where the imams say they need help to stop islamotard kids getting themselves killed in Syria. Boo hoo.

You lot are a boring pain.
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Islam is not boring, it is your low level of understanding that makes such "boring" comments come out from your fingers.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#22547 Jul 1, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Who says that female children were “insignificant”? Females are equally responsible, but their areas of activity is inside the house and not in the open.
This is a recognized fact of all earlier socities and civlizations. You may differ, but what was the need to “create them in pairs” and not a “Unisex Model”?
01A. The math works, we have seen King Abdul Aziz family to grow more than 5000 in just under 100 years, so what we can say about Adam and Eve and their progeny?
02. When Quran says Allah created Heavens and Earth and everything in between, that includes Adam and Eve. Why should Allah mention each and every item?
03. There are some “diifuclties” in Jewish and Christian creation stories, but why should I comment on them? You should ask them for clarifications.
04. In facts humans have “created” nothing, they have only used “existing” material and modified them using the “laws created by God”.
There is only one Creator in this Universe and that is Allah.
You do not understand what “creation” means.
Then why should one take Quran's theory of Adam and Eve seriously when Muhammad and his alter ego Allah think it it is insignificant to expound it?
At least Christianity makes an honest attempt and hints Adam and Eve had more than two children
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#22548 Jul 1, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not know the Quranic version of the study of flood.
No where in Quran it says that "whole earth" was engulfed in water. It only speaks about Noah and his people.
It could well be a localized affair, where the water level suddenly rose to cover even the mountains in that area.
No one survived except those who were in the Ark, and that according to Quran, did contain "some more people" than the family of Noah.
Human race flourished once again thru these people. It was after Noah that humans spread to all parts of world, before that they were living in one particular area.
Quran does not mention any date for the flood.
There are hardly any objection on Quranic version from any side.
But Jews and Christians simply say that Quran just copied it from their books, look at how Quran avoids "all the pitfalls" where Biblical tale has lead into.
This itself is a Big Miracle, which hand "prevented" our prophet not to copy these things?
So en your god didn't waste his time telling noah to take breeding stocks for every animal on board then, right?

From your explanation that would clearly be a completely stupid thing to do.

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#22549 Jul 1, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
You do not know the Quranic version of the study of flood.
No where in Quran it says that "whole earth" was engulfed in water. It only speaks about Noah and his people.
It could well be a localized affair, where the water level suddenly rose to cover even the mountains in that area.
How could the flood cover local mountains but not the whole world? The fluid nature of water means it will always spread out.
MUQ1 wrote:
No one survived except those who were in the Ark, and that according to Quran, did contain "some more people" than the family of Noah.
Human race flourished once again thru these people. It was after Noah that humans spread to all parts of world, before that they were living in one particular area.
The world is full of old civilisations that prove you wrong.
MUQ1 wrote:
Quran does not mention any date for the flood.
This is a failing of the Quran and suggests its author had no idea about time.
MUQ1 wrote:
There are hardly any objection on Quranic version from any side.
But Jews and Christians simply say that Quran just copied it from their books, look at how Quran avoids "all the pitfalls" where Biblical tale has lead into.
This itself is a Big Miracle, which hand "prevented" our prophet not to copy these things?
Omission is not the same as accuracy!

The stories in the Quran read as though Muhammad had heard them but couldn't remember the details. It's this lack of who, what, when, where and why which give Muslims there wiggle room in defending the Quran.
Even so the sun doesn't set in a muddy spring (18:86 http://quran.com/18/86 ) and Hoopee birds can't give long reports on distant civilisations (27/20-28 http://quran.com/27/20-28 )
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#22550 Jul 1, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Ans.
01. Who says that female children were “insignificant”? Females are equally responsible, but their areas of activity is inside the house and not in the open.
This is a recognized fact of all earlier socities and civlizations. You may differ, but what was the need to “create them in pairs” and not a “Unisex Model”?
01A. The math works, we have seen King Abdul Aziz family to grow more than 5000 in just under 100 years, so what we can say about Adam and Eve and their progeny?
02. When Quran says Allah created Heavens and Earth and everything in between, that includes Adam and Eve. Why should Allah mention each and every item?
03. There are some “diifuclties” in Jewish and Christian creation stories, but why should I comment on them? You should ask them for clarifications.
04. In facts humans have “created” nothing, they have only used “existing” material and modified them using the “laws created by God”.
There is only one Creator in this Universe and that is Allah.
You do not understand what “creation” means.
1) YOU said the women were insignificant. You claimed the koran only mentioned adam and eve's significant children.

1A) Nope, the maths doesn't work. If you start with 2 humans and breed them, the species is badly inbred by the time they become grandparents. They don't get to 5,000, not even 500. They die as freakish, sterile mutants.

2) The adam and eve story is scientifically proven to be impossible. Deal with it.

3) I only asked if there were any differences, from the way you dodged the question I expect there aren't any really significant differences and the flaws I pointted out in chritianity and judaism apply just as well to the koran when they all tell the same story.

4) You just denied all human creativity which also makes free will impossible. If allah wills it, right? Except that doesn't make sense. You kill apostates but according to your religion there's only one possible reason they could have become an apostate.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#22551 Jul 1, 2014
I can read wrote:
<quoted text>
So en your god didn't waste his time telling noah to take breeding stocks for every animal on board then, right?
From your explanation that would clearly be a completely stupid thing to do.
Also, if the flood was only a local occurence, why build a boat? Why not just walk to some high ground?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#22552 Jul 1, 2014
Religion = superstition
Get over it

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22553 Jul 2, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>Then why should one take Quran's theory of Adam and Eve seriously when Muhammad and his alter ego Allah think it it is insignificant to expound it?
At least Christianity makes an honest attempt and hints Adam and Eve had more than two children
Quran is not the book of "stories", it is a book of guidance, from Creator of Universe to human beings, to fulfill their purpose of life.

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#22555 Jul 2, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
<quoted text>
Quran is not the book of "stories", it is a book of guidance, from Creator of Universe to human beings, to fulfill their purpose of life.
So how can one verify if Quran is indeed a book from an infallible perfect supernatural entity when it only seems to be a follow-up of another logically inconsistent book Bible?
Thinking

Poole, UK

#22556 Jul 2, 2014
Sounds like it took allah 3 goes to get the book right, 4+ if you count stealing the flood myth from the Sumerians. So allah can not be perfect.

But once allah got the book right, all muslims were united. Apart from 1400 years of sunni/shiite murders. And hating the ahmadiya.
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>So how can one verify if Quran is indeed a book from an infallible perfect supernatural entity when it only seems to be a follow-up of another logically inconsistent book Bible?

Since: Mar 12

Mumbai, India

#22557 Jul 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Sounds like it took allah 3 goes to get the book right, 4+ if you count stealing the flood myth from the Sumerians. So allah can not be perfect.
But once allah got the book right, all muslims were united. Apart from 1400 years of sunni/shiite murders. And hating the ahmadiya.
<quoted text>
Allah never got it right..He copied Quran from his cousins Jehovah and Trinity who were always wrong.Muslims like MUQ have no mettle to face the brutal truth and concede the fact that they are going through a cognitive dissonance.Never in our lifetime we would see religious extremism getting vanished.People like MUQ would leave no stone unturned to inherit their parochial and provincial thoughts to their progeny .Hopefully though they would be in less number in distant future and we might see religion having no authority anywhere in the world.But only time will tell.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#22558 Jul 2, 2014
Ban religion for under 16s and the abrahamic faiths would wither in a couple of generations.
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>Allah never got it right..He copied Quran from his cousins Jehovah and Trinity who were always wrong.Muslims like MUQ have no mettle to face the brutal truth and concede the fact that they are going through a cognitive dissonance.Never in our lifetime we would see religious extremism getting vanished.People like MUQ would leave no stone unturned to inherit their parochial and provincial thoughts to their progeny .Hopefully though they would be in less number in distant future and we might see religion having no authority anywhere in the world.But only time will tell.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#22559 Jul 2, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Ban religion for under 16s and the abrahamic faiths would wither in a couple of generations.
<quoted text>
Exactly.
It is essential they get them while they're young.

Religion = superstition

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#22560 Jul 2, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>So how can one verify if Quran is indeed a book from an infallible perfect supernatural entity when it only seems to be a follow-up of another logically inconsistent book Bible?
I liked that one muslim guy,...what's his name,...Yessir Imarat.

The Isis leader also has a cool name - Al Bagdaddy.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22561 Jul 2, 2014
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I liked that one muslim guy,...what's his name,...Yessir Imarat.
The Isis leader also has a cool name - Al Bagdaddy.
You poke fun at muslims because of their names, but you and Muck are very much alike. You are both so mentally enslaved by your indoctrination into superstitious belief systems that you are unable to actually think, or recognize facts when they are presented to you. The content of your delusions differ in minor respects, but they are still delusions.
Thinking

Poole, UK

#22562 Jul 2, 2014
Prison 'tard Puck Frick...
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
You poke fun at muslims because of their names, but you and Muck are very much alike. You are both so mentally enslaved by your indoctrination into superstitious belief systems that you are unable to actually think, or recognize facts when they are presented to you. The content of your delusions differ in minor respects, but they are still delusions.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22563 Jul 3, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>So how can one verify if Quran is indeed a book from an infallible perfect supernatural entity when it only seems to be a follow-up of another logically inconsistent book Bible?
It shows that you neither opened Bible, nor Quran!!

Otherwise you would not make such an irresponsible statement.

Would you call "Chalk" and "cheese" same, because they both look white?

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