Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Apr 25, 2012 Full story: Psychology Today 23,072

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22477 Jun 21, 2014
Hidingfromyou wrote:
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1. Peer reviewed science refers to the results of writing up scientific research that has since been sent out to volunteer scientists who are professionals in their field. They check that the research was done well - and reject what doesn't hold muster. If something has been published in an academic journal, and it's a journal of standing, it informs further research in that field, and strengthens or weakens whatever hypothesis (derived from theory) has been tested.
2. Reviewers are professionals working in the field. They became such by passing rigorous exams and subsequently carrying out their own research - and having that reviewed by professionals in the discipline and stamped as contributing new research to the discipline.
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Scientists could "confirm" that deities don't exist by:
1. rejecting a deity hypothesis for not fitting the available evidence
2. demonstrating that all available evidence suggests that deities (imagined by people) do not exist
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Yes. Each time they do research.
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Science doesn't "prove" anything. Rather it builds evidence to confirm or disprove hypotheses.
You'll have to be more specific in your question here. It's a bit vague.
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If you don't know anything about science, how do you justify criticizing it? That seems quite foolish.
That's like saying "I've never eaten pizza and I know it tastes terrible!"
or "I've never been to Rome, and never read anything about it, but know that it's entirely painted black."
These so called peers, might be "experts" in their won field, but in this field, they are like little children!!

They do not even know the basic rules of the debate!!

These so called peers have knowledge about the material science and nothing else, how could their word be taken for the subjects that do not relate to the material world?

Which is these so called peers will tell you what is the purpose of our lives?

Which of these so called peers has any knowledge about what happens to one when one dies?

All of your so called peers lack any knowledge about these subjects and they cannot be trusted to pass any judgement.

“My hand is over my crotch.”

Since: Jan 10

It's time to put it to use

#22478 Jun 22, 2014
Igor Trip wrote:
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You presume the universe has or needed a creator yet at the same time claim your creator doesn't need a creator. That's cheating.
If your creator doesn't need a creator then why should the universe?
To add to the point, the universe doesn't need emissaries to debate its existence, unlike their skydad.
Thinking

Marston Magna, UK

#22480 Jun 22, 2014
No child should be tainted with religion before age 16.
See how long your POS religion would last then.
MUQ1 wrote:
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Yes it is the default state of mind, that is why Islamic creed starts with LA ILAHA (i.e. there is no deity worth worshipping), it denies all the human gods, idols made of stones, wood, sold and silver, trees, mountain, nations, vanities and superstitions....all are rejected ....
This is the initial stage of Atheism....but one does not stop at that, because it is only negation and negation by itself is not complete, there has to be some thing positive to believe.
And that is why Islamic creed continues "ILLA ALLAH" i.e. Except Allah, the True Creator and sustainer of this Universe.
Our so called atheist friends are stuck in the first sentence and use all the logic to negate existence of so called models of god of other religions.
But they have not advanced to the stage of recognising the true concept of True God as mentioned by Quran.
So shall we pity these Atheists?

Since: Mar 12

Devil's hometown

#22481 Jun 22, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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These so called peers, might be "experts" in their won field, but in this field, they are like little children!!
They do not even know the basic rules of the debate!!
These so called peers have knowledge about the material science and nothing else, how could their word be taken for the subjects that do not relate to the material world?
Which is these so called peers will tell you what is the purpose of our lives?
Which of these so called peers has any knowledge about what happens to one when one dies?
All of your so called peers lack any knowledge about these subjects and they cannot be trusted to pass any judgement.
In the same manner,Mullahs and other Islamic scholars should be not raising their doubts about the veracity of evidences produced by well researched biologists that buttress the Theory of Evolution.These Mullahs aren't scientific experts and they don't have any credentials to debunk Theory of Evolution.Muslims can believe in Adam and Eve tale without whining about Evolution and labeling it as "conspiracy" against Abrahamic faiths.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#22482 Jun 22, 2014
http://americanhumanist.org/news/details/2014...

They try to get them while their young, but truth will out...
"...a growing number of Saudis are privately declaring themselves atheists..."
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/12/atheism_explo...

Religion = superstition

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22483 Jun 22, 2014
What did prophet preach?(The other side of story)

Selection from the book MISHKAT AL MASABEEH (an authentic collection of sayings of prophet) Part-14

Subject: Misc.

88. Prophet PBUH said “One who hides any wrong done by his brother Muslim, will be as if one who saved a girl child from being buried alive.

89. Prophet PBUH said “You should treat people according to their status”

90. Prophet PBUH said” Humanity is (like) a family of Allah, the best is sight of Allah is one who is best with His family (i.e. his attitude is best with humanity at large)

91. Prophet PBUH said “Shall I not tell you the best form of Charity? It is dealing kindly with your daughter or sister who comes back to you (i.e. due to divorce or death of husband)

92. Some one complained to Prophet PBUH about hardness of his heart, Prophet PBUH advised his to pat orphans on head and feed poor people.

93. Prophet PBUH said “Believer is one who is liked by people (due to his kindliness), one who does not like others or others do not like him is no good in him”.

94. Prophet PBUH said “If any one solves any problem of any Muslim, he has made me happy, and one who makes me happy , makes Allah happy, and if Allah is happy with some one,(minimum reward) for him is that he will enter paradise.

95. Prophet PBUH said “Best is one who is best with his companions and best neighbor is one who is best with his neighbors”.

96. Prophet PBUH said “The best gift which a father gives to his sons, is to teach him best manners and etiquettes.”

“AU KAMA QAAL ALAIHI AL SALAT WA SALAAM (Prophet PBUH said these or similar words)

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“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22484 Jun 22, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No child should be tainted with religion before age 16.
See how long your POS religion would last then.
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No child should be taught any manners or any ethics till they grow up.

They should not be taught any morality till they grow up.

No one should teach them to respect their parents and elders and do not tell lies and do not cheat etc.

Their minds should be totally uncluttered , till they grow up.

And then why should one teach them basic English and Math and Science? Why not leave that also till they grow up?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22485 Jun 22, 2014
fadu singh wrote:
<quoted text>In the same manner,Mullahs and other Islamic scholars should be not raising their doubts about the veracity of evidences produced by well researched biologists that buttress the Theory of Evolution.These Mullahs aren't scientific experts and they don't have any credentials to debunk Theory of Evolution.Muslims can believe in Adam and Eve tale without whining about Evolution and labeling it as "conspiracy" against Abrahamic faiths.
Who has "proven" the Theory of Evolution?

It is still a theory, it is amazing how the so called educated people believe in it and think it is a scientific theory.

It is a theory which owes its existence to creative artists!!

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#22486 Jun 22, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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Who has "proven" the Theory of Evolution?
It is still a theory, it is amazing how the so called educated people believe in it and think it is a scientific theory.
It is a theory which owes its existence to creative artists!!
You are so clueless

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22487 Jun 22, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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You are so clueless
I could say the same thing about yourself.
Thinking

Marston Magna, UK

#22488 Jun 23, 2014
Wrong.
MUQ1 wrote:
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No child should be taught any manners or any ethics till they grow up.
They should not be taught any morality till they grow up.
No one should teach them to respect their parents and elders and do not tell lies and do not cheat etc.
Their minds should be totally uncluttered , till they grow up.
And then why should one teach them basic English and Math and Science? Why not leave that also till they grow up?
Thinking

Marston Magna, UK

#22489 Jun 23, 2014
muq is so very poorly educated that he thinks zero is the first number!
Mikko wrote:
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You are so clueless

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#22490 Jun 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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I could say the same thing about yourself.
and you would be wrong

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#22491 Jun 23, 2014
Breaking News:

Today, In the Middle East, a Topix poster, who labels himself as "MUQ1", was attempting to "set the bar for stupidity" once and for all. His goal was to set the standard by which all other stupidity could be accurately measured. In an ironic twist of fate, while "MUQ1" was attempting to construct a definitively stupid post, he spontaneously transformed into a large puddle of drool and was quickly lapped up by a scrawny, thirsty stray dog. Sadly, the poor little dog instantly died from the massive influx of overwhelming stupidity.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22493 Jun 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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It is not cheating, it is pure reasoning. If Creator needs another Creator, then it would be an endless cycle.
So Creator alone is Non-created and every thing else is Created, this makes perfect sense and logic.
Like in number system, the digits start with Zero, there is no digit before Zero.
So the Creation Process stops when it reaches the Creator.
It is strange that "super brains" like you people cannot understand this simple thing!!
So, you've never heard of negative numbers? You are certainly mathematically challenged for a descendant of the people who invented algebra.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22494 Jun 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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Islam has very strict rules for taking lives of innocent human being.
Judging from the number of massacres, suicide bombings and other terrorist attacks, including both muslim on non-muslim and muslim on muslim, it would appear that the reules of islam about killing innocent people is strict in the sense that such actions appear to be mandatory.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22495 Jun 23, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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There is no proof that there is no after life.
Your denial is as based on faith as our assertions.
We at least have a firmer ground because our belief is based on revelation from the Creator of Universe. Your denial is based only on your assumptions and wishes.
You are in worse shape than us. If your assumptions are true, we have very little to suffer, but if our version is correct, you have a lot to pay.
Why not follow a safe and prudent course, why take gamble with your life? It is a very unwise choice by any logic and reasoning.
So, do you believe that if someone told you that you had to sincerely believe the sky was green to enter paradise, you could convince yourself that the blue sky you saw with your eyes was a deception and the sky was truly green? Not just say the words, " the sky is green", but really believe it, despite the evidence before your own eyes?

It is as impossible for most atheists to ignore the evidence of god's non-existence as it would be for you to convince yourself that the sky is really green.

Or, perhaps, you acknowledge the impossibility of convincing yourself of something you perceive to be false, without any evidence that you are wrong. Perhaps you think people should 'convert' whether they believe or not. If so, then you apparently worship a deity incapable of detecting insincerity, or so insanely narcissistic that he values insincere flattery over honesty. Neither is such an impressive 'god'.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22496 Jun 23, 2014
Amused wrote:
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So, do you believe that if someone told you that you had to sincerely believe the sky was green to enter paradise, you could convince yourself that the blue sky you saw with your eyes was a deception and the sky was truly green? Not just say the words, " the sky is green", but really believe it, despite the evidence before your own eyes?
It is as impossible for most atheists to ignore the evidence of god's non-existence as it would be for you to convince yourself that the sky is really green.
Or, perhaps, you acknowledge the impossibility of convincing yourself of something you perceive to be false, without any evidence that you are wrong. Perhaps you think people should 'convert' whether they believe or not. If so, then you apparently worship a deity incapable of detecting insincerity, or so insanely narcissistic that he values insincere flattery over honesty. Neither is such an impressive 'god'.
Where it is written that "sky is green"?

Why make yourself a fool in front of every one?

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#22497 Jun 23, 2014
Amused wrote:
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So, you've never heard of negative numbers? You are certainly mathematically challenged for a descendant of the people who invented algebra.
What are negative numbers? When were they "invented"? What about "Imaginary numbers"? Do they also exist?

Trying to bluff your way out?
Thinking

Marston Magna, UK

#22498 Jun 24, 2014
You sad creationist, those numbers were already in existence before we started using them.

Imaginary, in this context is just a misleading naming convention (much like your "honour killing")
MUQ1 wrote:
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What are negative numbers? When were they "invented"? What about "Imaginary numbers"? Do they also exist?
Trying to bluff your way out?

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