Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 23584 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#22395 Jun 13, 2014
Without the abusive indoctrination of babies, Muck's religion would have died on its arse hundreds of years ago.
Adam wrote:
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Muq, rather than my usual arguments, I thought I would discuss the bigger picture.
I don't understand why you are so interested in converting atheists. Why would anyone want to convert anyone to their own beliefs, when no one has any evidence of the "mystery" big questions.
If I were you I would take more interest in what is happening in muslim countries, cause they are in a right mess.
Like in Syria/ Iraq at the moment the USA/Zionists are formenting war by arming "rebels" in Syria, and fighting a proxy war using Turkey and Al Qaeda rebels, whilst at the same time fighting the same rebels in Iraq using their proxy Iraqi government forces.
But I guess as a Sunni you are siding with Israel on Syria, as you pick sides based on what your imam tells you and not on doing you own investigation.
So going back to my point, rather than converting infidels, you could concern yourself with:
- real problems that a evident in muslim countries,
- the misinformation from the media and your "royal" government
- finding evidence to support your own beliefs.
cheers
Convinced Christian

Port Talbot, UK

#22396 Jun 13, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You don't think it will ever happen? Your thought is faith based. You think whatever is comforting to you. It is happening. As for evidence, with the advent of satellite telecommunications and the Internet, the secret is out: Your church is the evidence.
How do you think we discovered the pedophile sex ring operating in the Catholic Church? That's centuries old. But the boys and their families could never find out about one another in the past, keeping the church cloaked in secrecy.
Not any more. The families found one another on the Internet, and the magnitude of the problem emerged. The same with the televangelists.
Besides, there is proof that Jehovah-Jesus doesn't exist, but it is irrelevant and unnecessary. Rational skeptics don't need disproof to reject a bare claim, especially an extraordinary one, and you don't care about evidence or reason. So, why bother?
Where is you proof that Jesus doesn't exist? Were you around at the time? Josephus who was a noted historian and was around at the time said he did.
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#22397 Jun 13, 2014
What do you mean by jesus?

I know for sure there is no all powerful compassionate god because we have evidence of avoidable suffering.
Convinced Christian wrote:
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Where is you proof that Jesus doesn't exist? Were you around at the time? Josephus who was a noted historian and was around at the time said he did.
bigdirtyewanlawd

Belfast, UK

#22398 Jun 13, 2014
yous guys talk so much shite why dont you call me and i will sort yous all out. you all need help 07933272798
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#22399 Jun 13, 2014
I have a better idea.
Why don't you attend adult literacy classes?
bigdirtyewanlawd wrote:
yous guys talk so much shite why dont you call me and i will sort yous all out. you all need help 07933272798
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#22400 Jun 13, 2014
This is because you're trying to non believers sh!t they don't want or need and you've only got threats with which to do it.

If you don't believe in your childish afterlife, islam is all stick and no carrot.
MUQ1 wrote:
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Atheists I consider as the most illogical and unreasonable of all groups, because they have rejected the truth, without coming out any of their own.
Thinking

Stockbridge, UK

#22401 Jun 13, 2014
you're trying to sell non believers sh!t they don't need ^
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#22402 Jun 13, 2014
Convinced Christian wrote:
<quoted text>Where is you proof that Jesus doesn't exist?
When the apostles were writing the new testament letters, more enlightened teachers were preaching that Jesus was a purely mythical figure. If you read the letter John 1, the apostle John berates these innovators as liars and anti-christs. This is despite John knowing that he himself, and his fellow apostles, were the liars, and that the anti-christs were in fact telling the truth.

The conscientious teachers knew that no Jesus existed and that the gospels were fabricated as history. Early christians such as Paul knew nothing of any gospels. The gospels just made up stories as they went along, cherry picking prophecies and shoe horning them into their fiction. This is how the mythical christ became the historical Jesus and the "life" of Jesus was invented.
Adam

Stoke-on-trent, UK

#22403 Jun 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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Muslims have problems, but it has nothing to do with Islam, it is their own ethnic and political issues, which they are fighting for.
I disagree. If you could magically remove religion from the middle east, it would be a very different place. Syria and Iraq are a lot like Europe in the Middle Ages, with different factions waring over very minor differences. Who has the best God and who has the best fairy tale. Meanwhile important things are happening in the real world like the world cup :)
Amused

Lowell, MA

#22404 Jun 13, 2014
Convinced Christian wrote:
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Where is you proof that Jesus doesn't exist? Were you around at the time? Josephus who was a noted historian and was around at the time said he did.
Josephus was born in 37 AD, several years after the time of the alleged crucifixion. He did not write about Jesus until approximately 90 AD, roughly 60 or more years after Jesus' supposed lifetime. So, no, Josephus was not "around at the time". He was not a contemporary. His writings, even if they are accepted as authentic, which is the subject of debate, are, at best, second hand accounts. In that, they share much in common with the gospels, which were not contemporary accounts. The gospels were written between 40 and 90 years after the alleged life of Jesus. They are written from oral accounts handed down from previous times.

The authenticity of the references to Jesus in Josephus' writings are open to question. They appear to be interlineations into the original text. There's no conclusive evidence that the interlined text is actually the writing of Josephus, as opposed to text added later by an anonymous scribe copying the original text.

When you look at the writings attributed to Josephus, whether authentic or not, they do not assert the actual existence of Jesus. They assert the existence of *christians*. Whether Jesus existed as a historical figure or not, the existence of believers in Jesus at the time of Josephus is beyond dispute. One can write that Utah was settled by followers of Joseph Smith's Mormon religion. That does not mean that one believes that there actually existed an angel Moroni, as the Mormons believed. It merely means that there exist people who hold that belief.

Conspicuously absent are contemporary Roman accounts of the existence of Jesus. The Romans were good record keepers. There are also no records from contemporary Jewish sources. The Jews also were a literate society, complete with scholars and priests. Jesus and his doings would have been of interest to those groups, particularly the priests. So, why no writings about Jesus from those sources?

When this lack of records from any but believers is considered alongside the fact that older legends like Mithras and Horus provide very similar accounts of other man-gods that parallel the account of the life of Jesus, the credibility of the gospel accounts diminishes.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#22405 Jun 13, 2014
What a nutter:
Convinced Christian wrote:
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Where is you proof that Jesus doesn't exist? Were you around at the time? Josephus who was a noted historian and was around at the time said he did.
Religion = superstition
It's divisive and outdated
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#22406 Jun 13, 2014
Rational people are everywhere...
http://www.salon.com/2014/06/12/atheism_explo...

Theology = mythology
I can read

Falkirk, UK

#22407 Jun 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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Merciful does not mean that, it is your wrong interpretation, to hang a serial killer is "mercy" for the society.
If you misuse the opportunity given to you and repent and you challenge His authority, then you should be ready for what you do.
The mercy is shown to those who ask for it, when they have opportunity.
So rather than admit an iman may have made a bad translation, you've decided that the entire English speaking world have made a mistake instead.

You also claim killing people is merciful.

If you are a typical muslim then your words here say there is no mercy in islam since you don't even recognise the concept.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#22408 Jun 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
2. What would have happened to me if I was born in USA
You-d be making the same idiotic arguments, but for Jesus instead of Allah.
EdSed

Wishaw, UK

#22410 Jun 14, 2014
This isn't helped by politicians who 'do god'. Ofsted ratings scandal....
http://paulbraterman.wordpress.com/2014/06/14...

Religion = superstition
MUQ1

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#22411 Jun 14, 2014
Adam wrote:
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I disagree. If you could magically remove religion from the middle east, it would be a very different place. Syria and Iraq are a lot like Europe in the Middle Ages, with different factions waring over very minor differences. Who has the best God and who has the best fairy tale. Meanwhile important things are happening in the real world like the world cup :)
So if you could "magically remove Islam from ME, it would make a big change"? That goes both ways

"If we magically bring Islam to the West" it would solve most of the world's problem that we are facing today.

The problem of drugs, alcoholism, domestic violence, dominating poor nations, problems of extreme nationalism, racism, free sex and pornography...

The world would became a safe and peaceful place to live.

When you think about magic, think good things and not bad things.
MUQ1

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#22412 Jun 14, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
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You-d be making the same idiotic arguments, but for Jesus instead of Allah.
\
This is just your assumption, so let us talk about reality and not your hallucination.
MUQ1

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#22413 Jun 14, 2014
I can read wrote:
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So rather than admit an iman may have made a bad translation, you've decided that the entire English speaking world have made a mistake instead.
You also claim killing people is merciful.
If you are a typical muslim then your words here say there is no mercy in islam since you don't even recognise the concept.
You are twisting my words to draw your own meanings. I merely said that many translations of Quran are made by Muslim Scholars, so one should refer to them instead of translations and commentaries done by Non Muslim translators.

And actual Quran is in Arabic which is a living language and widely spoken by millions of people.

It is not me who is telling people is good for mercy, ask GWB the Great who lead War on terror to bring peace into the world.

It is you people who do not understand the meaning of mercy and justice and how they should run side by side.
I can read

Falkirk, UK

#22414 Jun 14, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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You are twisting my words to draw your own meanings. I merely said that many translations of Quran are made by Muslim Scholars, so one should refer to them instead of translations and commentaries done by Non Muslim translators.
And actual Quran is in Arabic which is a living language and widely spoken by millions of people.
It is not me who is telling people is good for mercy, ask GWB the Great who lead War on terror to bring peace into the world.
It is you people who do not understand the meaning of mercy and justice and how they should run side by side.
What would be a merciful punishment for apostasy?

How about pornography? If someone makes a living showing other human beings images of the human body, what would be a just and merciful way to treat them?

“Evil Atheist :-)”

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#22415 Jun 14, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
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So if you could "magically remove Islam from ME, it would make a big change"? That goes both ways
"If we magically bring Islam to the West" it would solve most of the world's problem that we are facing today.
The problem of drugs, alcoholism, domestic violence, dominating poor nations, problems of extreme nationalism, racism, free sex and pornography...
The world would became a safe and peaceful place to live.
When you think about magic, think good things and not bad things.
As the Quran allows a man to hit his wife it allows domestic violence.
Isn't Afghanistan the worlds biggest producer of opium?
I've read that non arabs are treated very badly in Arabian countries so no it doesn't solve racism, and Islam certainly encourages hatred of all non Muslims.
As the early Muslims invaded every country they could poor nations will still be dominated.
And the Paradise is definitely pornographic,

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