Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038

There are 24178 comments on the Psychology Today story from Apr 25, 2012, titled Atheism to Defeat Religion by 2038. In it, Psychology Today reports that:

My blog posts on religion have attracted a lot of controversy. Religious people are annoyed by my claim that belief in God will go the way of horse transportation, and for much the same reason, specifically an improved standard of living.

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21793 Mar 12, 2014
trandiode wrote:
you assume the evidence is available everywhere, but its not ! There is not one scrap of physical evidence to prove Darwin's theory of evolution ! All you get is the theory but not the evidence !
There is a darwinian mechanism very easy to understand, A specie settle in two disctint territories, this specie has short reproduction period, In each territory, abundance of ressources doesn't not happen at the same time, thus each territory population adapts to the abundance of ressources. After sometimes, each population have no more the same reprodution period, therefore cannot breed anymore, therefore, they part as different species.
This mechanism can be understood by five years old children, but not by trandiodes nor MUQs who oppose their religious beliefs.
Doesn't matter what the trandiodes or MUQs do believe, five years old children will see them as the class dunces

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#21794 Mar 12, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but Darwin was correct: All species have descended from a common unicellular ancestor over deep time due to the natural selection of undirected heritable changes in gene pools caused by mutation and gene recombination in individual organism, and leading to their differential survival rates in populations competing for scarce resources and to escape predation, a process which accounts for the diversity of life on earth as well as its commonalities.
You can argue, but none of that is debatable any more. The questions now surround precise pathways and mechanisms.
It seems you are saying More than what Darwin even knew, and Quoting Darwin for it.!!

The cell structure was not known in the time of Darwin!!

Why you malign Darwin?

Darwin theory of today is not what Darwin wrote 150 years back!!

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#21795 Mar 12, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes it does, The Lonchura group is a family of very similar birds, they live from Western Africa to Japan, When their territory is close to another, they can breed, when their territory is very distant form another, they cannot breed and thus are considered as different species.
Genetic studies corroborate observations.
Why you forgot the birds that migrate every year from Siberia to hot parts and return back...

This is sure proof of Evolution....some of their distant relatives might have travelled from these places to Siberia,... but the memory lingers on!!

Why you play to make you a fool?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21796 Mar 13, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
Sorry, but Darwin was correct: All species have descended from a common unicellular ancestor over deep time due to the natural selection of undirected heritable changes in gene pools caused by mutation and gene recombination in individual organism, and leading to their differential survival rates in populations competing for scarce resources and to escape predation, a process which accounts for the diversity of life on earth as well as its commonalities. You can argue, but none of that is debatable any more. The questions now surround precise pathways and mechanisms.
MUQ1 wrote:
It seems you are saying More than what Darwin even knew, and Quoting Darwin for it.!! The cell structure was not known in the time of Darwin!! Why you malign Darwin? Darwin theory of today is not what Darwin wrote 150 years back!!
Yes, I added a bit unknown to Darwin - the part about mutation and gene reshufflisng. The rest was known to Darwin.

Is that important? And are you so insecure in your faith that you want to bolster it with petty objections and bizarre questions like these?

These are the kinds of things that reinforce my disesteem for faith and faith based thinking. As a result of them, your immersion in religion, and your upbringing steeping in its values, you lack both substance and intellectual integrity in your arguments. Your arguments are tepid.

“SATYAMEV JAYATE-TRUTH WINS ”

Since: Mar 14

JUBAIL, KSA

#21797 Mar 13, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
Yes, I added a bit unknown to Darwin - the part about mutation and gene reshufflisng. The rest was known to Darwin.
Is that important? And are you so insecure in your faith that you want to bolster it with petty objections and bizarre questions like these?
These are the kinds of things that reinforce my disesteem for faith and faith based thinking. As a result of them, your immersion in religion, and your upbringing steeping in its values, you lack both substance and intellectual integrity in your arguments. Your arguments are tepid.
Another thing which was not known to Darwin was the cell structure and DNA and so many things that people know today.

The problem is not with Evolution, but Blind evolution, where no one knows in which direction things are going to change.

There was never any "imperfect" specie , so to say, all those Transitional forms which Darwin said would be discovered in fossil records have not materialized.

It is the job of "Creative artists" who clothe a single bone or teeth with scales and flesh and color them, to look real, like we saw in Jurassic Park.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21799 Mar 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
Why you forgot the birds that migrate every year from Siberia to hot parts and return back...
This is sure proof of Evolution....some of their distant relatives might have travelled from these places to Siberia,... but the memory lingers on!!
Why you play to make you a fool?
Lonchra is a group of sedentary birds, all birds do not migrate.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21800 Mar 13, 2014
toxicHamster wrote:
You f***ing idiots, theres going to be war with Islam
Islamists terrorists have ald ready declare war at the West.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21801 Mar 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
It is the job of "Creative artists" who clothe a single bone or teeth with scales and flesh and color them, to look real, like we saw in Jurassic Park.
Number of fossil species have been found complete, and yes, specialists can identify to which specie belongs pieces of bones or just one tooth, can calculate wich mass of muscles are tight to an articulation.
T-Rex is not a movie invention, it's one of the specie which some remains have been found almost complete.

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21802 Mar 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
The problem is not with Evolution, but Blind evolution, where no one knows in which direction things are going to change.
No one knows how environment will change, and Evolution is mainly dictated by environmental changes..
Now, there are evolutionnary mechanisms wich act in a stable environment.
The animals who have male fights for exclusivity on troups of females tend to grow bigger as long as it's compatible with food ressources.
The animals which live in large groups and are preys tend to be as similar as possible, that's a way to make difficult for predators to fix attention at a single prey, that's the case of schools of fishes such as sardines or troups of penguins.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21803 Mar 13, 2014
MUQ1 wrote:
It is the job of "Creative artists" who clothe a single bone or teeth with scales and flesh and color them, to look real, like we saw in Jurassic Park.
You don't really have any vested interest in honesty or integrity, do you? There is nothing that you would consider too immoral to say or do, and no person that you wouldn't slander to promote your faith, is there?

I'm pretty sure that I've already told you that science denying religious zealots like you rank below crack whores and rodeo clowns on the reliability scale when it comes to contradicting the consensus of evolutionary scientists, because in addition to being just as unqualified, you are also agenda driven and ethically challenged.

Can you tell us what taqiyya refers to?

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21804 Mar 13, 2014
toxicHamster wrote:
You f***ing idiots, theres going to be war with Islam
That sounds rough.
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21805 Mar 14, 2014
You Atheists always manage to get things wrong ! Darwin's general theory of Evolution !involves one species changing into another ! Darwin's "Special Theory on Evolution " Notice he has two different theories going, but they are worlds apart in the understanding ? His "Special" theory has to do with variations within species ! Stop getting it all wrong !! We can all except that there are all different varieties of dogs cats Elephants etc , But to change from one species to another(As in his General Theory) is quite a different thing ! There is no evidence whatsoever to support Darwin's General theory of Evolution ! PERIOD !!!

Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21806 Mar 14, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You Atheists always manage to get things wrong ! Darwin's general theory of Evolution !involves one species changing into another ! Darwin's "Special Theory on Evolution " Notice he has two different theories going, but they are worlds apart in the understanding ? His "Special" theory has to do with variations within species ! Stop getting it all wrong !! We can all except that there are all different varieties of dogs cats Elephants etc , But to change from one species to another(As in his General Theory) is quite a different thing ! There is no evidence whatsoever to support Darwin's General theory of Evolution ! PERIOD !!!
No, Darwin's theory allows one specie to give birth to many species which split into many which can survive or not being fit or not with environmental constraints. Darwin's theory have been reinforced by genetics studies.
As I can see, even the MUQs are more open minded on Darwin than our blockheaded trandiode. Better you go back and give plenty disagreement badges to atheist's posts, that what you're best at.

“Life may be sweeter for this”

Since: Nov 08

Fennario

#21807 Mar 14, 2014
trandiode wrote:
You Atheists always manage to get things wrong ! Darwin's general theory of Evolution !involves one species changing into another ! Darwin's "Special Theory on Evolution " Notice he has two different theories going, but they are worlds apart in the understanding ? His "Special" theory has to do with variations within species ! Stop getting it all wrong !! We can all except that there are all different varieties of dogs cats Elephants etc , But to change from one species to another(As in his General Theory) is quite a different thing ! There is no evidence whatsoever to support Darwin's General theory of Evolution ! PERIOD !!!
Darwin had no special or general theories of evolution, and the scientific community makes no such distinction. That is just more creationist pollution.

How many times do you need to be told that you faith based thinkers have no say in this matter? You've demonstrated your intellectual dishonesty so often that.absolutely nobody but other faith based thinkers cares what religious zealots like you and your anti-scientific sources have to say about scientific issues. You're objections simply carry no weight.

I for one want to go on record objecting to your religious interference in the area of science. It's irresponsible and damages young people from religious families that will be entering the job market by making them less competitive. And by relentlessly attempting to undermine science and foster distrust in what scientists say, you make us all more vulnerable to the climate change deniers as well. Your religion adds nothing of value to the world, but is certainly a drain on it.

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MUQ

Riyadh, Saudi Arabia

#21808 Mar 14, 2014
DonPanic wrote:
<quoted text>
Number of fossil species have been found complete, and yes, specialists can identify to which specie belongs pieces of bones or just one tooth, can calculate wich mass of muscles are tight to an articulation.
T-Rex is not a movie invention, it's one of the specie which some remains have been found almost complete.
Never a complete evolution details of a single specie from one to another has been found!!

And they shall be never found, because they do not exist.

Species come and they go, but they do not change from one to another, unless in the mind of "faith based" argument that Darwin was speaking the truth!!

Those who believe in evolution have "as much" faith as those who deny it!!

Since: Feb 14

Tejgaon, Bangladesh

#21809 Mar 14, 2014
MUQ wrote:
<quoted text>
Never a complete evolution details of a single specie from one to another has been found!!
And they shall be never found, because they do not exist.
Species come and they go, but they do not change from one to another, unless in the mind of "faith based" argument that Darwin was speaking the truth!!
Those who believe in evolution have "as much" faith as those who deny it!!
I Guess you get Your informantion from uncyclopedia.co?

P.S: I suggest you look up the Word Evolution, I think you're mixing it up with something else...
trandiode

Walkley Heights, Australia

#21810 Mar 14, 2014
It aint necessarily so wrote:
<quoted text>
Darwin had no special or general theories of evolution, and the scientific community makes no such distinction. That is just more creationist pollution.
How many times do you need to be told that you faith based thinkers have no say in this matter? You've demonstrated your intellectual dishonesty so often that.absolutely nobody but other faith based thinkers cares what religious zealots like you and your anti-scientific sources have to say about scientific issues. You're objections simply carry no weight.
I for one want to go on record objecting to your religious interference in the area of science. It's irresponsible and damages young people from religious families that will be entering the job market by making them less competitive. And by relentlessly attempting to undermine science and foster distrust in what scientists say, you make us all more vulnerable to the climate change deniers as well. Your religion adds nothing of value to the world, but is certainly a drain on it. You do not know what you are talking about !
http://s121.photobucket.com/user/your_inquire... [cartoon]
You do not know what you are talking about ! Darwin had two separate types of Evolution in mind when he wrote his book first the General Theory on Evolution then His "special theory of Evolution ! His special theory had to do with variance in species, such as Finches on the Galapagos islands, he noted the variances in their beaks and plumage and thought to himself that they may have a common finch ancestor that those birds all evolved from because of their beaks and their plumage for their individual needs because of the different environments they were found in ! Like you see many versions of cats dogs, birds, apes etc etc ! That was his Special theory and that made sense ! Where he got it wrong was in his General Theory of evolution, Because he further developed the Idea of one common ancestor to everything, hence he turns Dinosaurs into birds and Apes into man ! He thought that one species could overtime turn into another species, And that has not ever been seen in any fossil record showing considering their are millions of fossils that have been found and slow changes should of shown up in at the very least hundreds of thousands of the fossils so far discovered absolutely none have ! Then with Paleontology the same is noticed ! There is not one single human bone found in a ape ! Not One ! and once again there should have been,something because the changes were subtle they should have at least found a few pointing to a support the idea of a change from one species to another ! But an ape is a totally different species to a Human being even though you may think there are similarities they are not great ! compare an Elephant to a horse, Yes they have a few similarities but to suggest that they are of the same species is absurd ! Furthermore if we go back in time and try to suggest everything came from the same single cell life-form, then why the many and varied diversity in nature we have now ? There was no real need for it ! was there ? Unless you put a creator in the middle of course then it all makes a lot more sense !

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21811 Mar 14, 2014
MUQ wrote:
Never a complete evolution details of a single specie from one to another has been found!!
And they shall be never found, because they do not exist.
Species come and they go, but they do not change from one to another, unless in the mind of "faith based" argument that Darwin was speaking the truth!!
Those who believe in evolution have "as much" faith as those who deny it!!
The problem isn't in evolution, it is on the GODdidit theory

The Creator cannot fail creating a specie, right ?

So why a Creator perfect creation should disapear ?

Did God created a specie and disliked it ?

Sorry MUQ, the succession of different living creatures vestiges found would give me the idea of your God as some engineer launching experimental living creatures and having no care it, and then trying some other model.maybe more sophisticated

Therefore, evolution seems to be a better choice than your theory of an experimentalist GODdidit.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#21812 Mar 14, 2014
Comments like those from Muq and Trandiode illustrate just some of problems of religion (and superstitions in general)- creationism and a total inability to understand scientific theories. Children need to be taught critical thinking not superstitions, dogma and theology.

Religion = superstition
Theology = mythology

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Since: Dec 06

Charlie's

#21813 Mar 14, 2014
trandiode wrote:
<quoted text> You do not know what you are talking about ! Darwin had two separate types of Evolution in mind when he wrote his book first the General Theory on Evolution then His "special theory of Evolution ! His special theory had to do with variance in species, such as Finches on the Galapagos islands, he noted the variances in their beaks and plumage and thought to himself that they may have a common finch ancestor that those birds all evolved from because of their beaks and their plumage for their individual needs because of the different environments they were found in ! Like you see many versions of cats dogs, birds, apes etc etc ! That was his Special theory and that made sense ! Where he got it wrong was in his General Theory of evolution, Because he further developed the Idea of one common ancestor to everything, hence he turns Dinosaurs into birds and Apes into man ! He thought that one species could overtime turn into another species, And that has not ever been seen in any fossil record showing considering their are millions of fossils that have been found and slow changes should of shown up in at the very least hundreds of thousands of the fossils so far discovered absolutely none have ! Then with Paleontology the same is noticed ! There is not one single human bone found in a ape ! Not One ! and once again there should have been,something because the changes were subtle they should have at least found a few pointing to a support the idea of a change from one species to another ! But an ape is a totally different species to a Human being even though you may think there are similarities they are not great ! compare an Elephant to a horse, Yes they have a few similarities but to suggest that they are of the same species is absurd ! Furthermore if we go back in time and try to suggest everything came from the same single cell life-form, then why the many and varied diversity in nature we have now ? There was no real need for it ! was there ? Unless you put a creator in the middle of course then it all makes a lot more sense !
You suffer some verbal diarrhoea, anyway, without reading it the answer is the same as for MUQ

The problem isn't in evolution, it is on the GODdidit theory

The Creator cannot fail creating a specie, right ?

So why a Creator perfect creation should disapear ?

Did God created a specie and disliked it ?

Sorry MUQ, the succession of different living creatures vestiges found would give me the idea of your God as some engineer launching experimental living creatures and having no care them, and then trying some other model.maybe more sophisticated

Therefore, evolution seems to be a better choice than your theory of an experimentalist GODdidit.

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