Atheism is not Science

Atheism is not Science

There are 27 comments on the News24 story from Jun 2, 2014, titled Atheism is not Science. In it, News24 reports that:

I see it's time for another repetition of my Atheism != Science lecture. To those that have read this before, apologies, but sadly it needs repeating for the faithful flock, that fail to learn at all.

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Amused

Lowell, MA

#23 Jun 11, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Are you very drunk or just an extremely poor writer?
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Or, simply, incapable of thought. He just takes a bunch of conservative cliches, throws them in the blender and - instant post. No thought needed.
Thinking

Gillingham, UK

#24 Jun 11, 2014
If he's misappropriating the words of others, it should at least parse!
Amused wrote:
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Or, simply, incapable of thought. He just takes a bunch of conservative cliches, throws them in the blender and - instant post. No thought needed.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#25 Jun 11, 2014
Thinking wrote:
If he's misappropriating the words of others, it should at least parse!
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It probably did parse before the blender entered the picture.
Patrick n Angela

Pompano Beach, FL

#26 Mar 26, 2015
nutinlikett wrote:
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You are ill informed on the science, essentially the reality is we have all the information available so you have no excuses why you would be so devoid of it.
There was an excellent site with easy to follow explanation of evolution you may want to read up. I could only find it on archive but lucky it is somewhat available. Take a moment and read.
http://archive.to day/lJhTk#selection-101.76-109 .43
As for "global warming" the fact is climate change happens its happening and hiding your head between your legs will not change that.
http://www.wunderground.com/climate/facts.asp
Usual dodge...Evolution does not prove Atheism!
Science is silent on atheism...
Patrick n Angela

Pompano Beach, FL

#27 Mar 26, 2015
Marcus Borg is interesting to some and not to others ..

Progressive Christians are often better known for what we don’t believe than for what we do affirm. I say “we” because I am one of them.

There is an obvious reason: we disagree with much of the most publicly visible form of contemporary Christianity. Commonly called “conservative” Christianity, its political form is “the Christian right.” Thus we tend to define ourselves with a series of negations that differentiate “us” from “them.” We don’t believe what they do. We’re not like them.

At the heart of the disagreement is the Bible. For conservative Christians, two claims about the Bible are foundational. First, it is inerrant and/or infallible. Though some argue that inerrancy and infallibility are not identical, the differences are at most subtle. Functionally, they have the same effect: if the Bible says something, it’s true. That settles it.

Second, the Bible is to be interpreted literally. The most obvious example: about half of American Protestants believe that creation happened less than 10,000 years ago.

Given the overwhelming evidence that the earth and life and the universe are much older than that – from geology, astronomy, physics, paleontology, biology, archeology, anthropology, and more – why do they think that? Because they belong to churches that teach biblical literalism, mostly independent Protestant churches (that is, those that are not part of “mainline” denominations – though a “soft” form of literalism is somewhat common among “mainline” Christians as well).

Together, affirming biblical inerrancy and biblical literalism are a litmus test for most conservative Christians, distinguishing “true believers” from those who are not. In many conservative Christian colleges and seminaries, faculty are required to sign a statement affirming both.

For this view, the Bible is divine truth. If it says something is wrong, it’s wrong. If it says something happened, it happened. Its truth is grounded in its claimed origin: it is a divine product, nothing less than God’s revelation. And God would not mislead or deceive us.

Progressive Christians reject biblical inerrancy. A major reason is the Bible itself. In both the Old and New Testaments, God sometimes wills and even commands the killing of men, women and children. Was indiscriminate slaughter ever the will of God? Passages in both Testaments condone and regulate slavery. Was slavery ever consistent with the will of God? And was patriarchy and the subordination of women ever the will of God? The progressive Christian view of the Bible affirms: sometimes the Bible is wrong.

Often this is implicit rather than explicit. It would be salutary if it became boldly explicit. If more Christians – and ideally all – were candidly to acknowledge that sometimes the Bible is wrong, it would change the discussion of biblical authority.

http://www.patheos.com/marcusborg/
thetruth

London, UK

#28 Mar 26, 2015
Patrick n Angela wrote:
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Usual dodge...Evolution does not prove Atheism!
Science is silent on atheism...
Creationists like you don't speak for science or Atheism.

You only speak for Creationism, you failed cult of bitter liars.
thetruth

London, UK

#29 Mar 26, 2015
Patrick n Angela wrote:
Marcus Borg is interesting to some and not to others ..
Progressive Christians are often better known for what we don’t believe than for what we do affirm. I say “we” because I am one of them.
There is an obvious reason: we disagree with much of the most publicly visible form of contemporary Christianity. Commonly called “conservative” Christianity, its political form is “the Christian right.” Thus we tend to define ourselves with a series of negations that differentiate “us” from “them.” We don’t believe what they do. We’re not like them.
At the heart of the disagreement is the Bible. For conservative Christians, two claims about the Bible are foundational. First, it is inerrant and/or infallible. Though some argue that inerrancy and infallibility are not identical, the differences are at most subtle. Functionally, they have the same effect: if the Bible says something, it’s true. That settles it.
Second, the Bible is to be interpreted literally. The most obvious example: about half of American Protestants believe that creation happened less than 10,000 years ago.
Given the overwhelming evidence that the earth and life and the universe are much older than that – from geology, astronomy, physics, paleontology, biology, archeology, anthropology, and more – why do they think that? Because they belong to churches that teach biblical literalism, mostly independent Protestant churches (that is, those that are not part of “mainline” denominations – though a “soft” form of literalism is somewhat common among “mainline” Christians as well).
Together, affirming biblical inerrancy and biblical literalism are a litmus test for most conservative Christians, distinguishing “true believers” from those who are not. In many conservative Christian colleges and seminaries, faculty are required to sign a statement affirming both.
For this view, the Bible is divine truth. If it says something is wrong, it’s wrong. If it says something happened, it happened. Its truth is grounded in its claimed origin: it is a divine product, nothing less than God’s revelation. And God would not mislead or deceive us.
Progressive Christians reject biblical inerrancy. A major reason is the Bible itself. In both the Old and New Testaments, God sometimes wills and even commands the killing of men, women and children. Was indiscriminate slaughter ever the will of God? Passages in both Testaments condone and regulate slavery. Was slavery ever consistent with the will of God? And was patriarchy and the subordination of women ever the will of God? The progressive Christian view of the Bible affirms: sometimes the Bible is wrong.
Often this is implicit rather than explicit. It would be salutary if it became boldly explicit. If more Christians – and ideally all – were candidly to acknowledge that sometimes the Bible is wrong, it would change the discussion of biblical authority.
http://www.patheos.com/marcusborg/
Your lengthy & fearful Creationist spam shows us that Atheism has got under your skin.

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