That was to someone else, but since you seem to agree that Ethics as a discipline is worth studying, and we also seem close enough in our agnostic-atheist views, would you please look at my two comments just above to people who seem to be Believers, and tell me your attitude with regard to people who have a kind and compassionate and peace-loving sense of ethics, and who also claim to be Christians or religious in some sense.<quoted text>
It's unethical and illegal.
That has absolutely nothing to do with whether Ethics _the discipline_ is worth studying.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't, but your point above doesn't address that.
I didn't say it was. Just that it has been becoming less worth studying as a discipline.
The only epistemology required to develop computer models was that already subsumed into the sciences.
I believe in constructing a grand coalition against those who are evil and superstitious. I would hope that a vast majority of agnostics and atheists would be in the camp opposing war and cruelty,(though I do not claim or expect them all to be), but I also hope that a significant number of Christians and other religious persons would agree with a kind and compassionate set of Ethics. So I oppose writing off the "nice" religious persons. I think it is worth enquiring of religious persons what their ethics are, and finding out whether they would be acceptable allies in good causes, before burning bridges and denouncing them as idiots and making them feel disliked and unwelcome.
I suspect their feelings can be easily hurt, and thus oppose such terms as buybull and nasty words about Jesus, and similar putdown hostilities, that could offend believers who do have what I consider decent ethics despite their religious views. We need every decent person possible in the fight against those who are evil and cruel and warmongers. We need the votes of all decent persons on election day for one thing. I just wish there were enough good ones who are motivated enough to dominate both political parties, rather than letting the evil ones take over the GOP completely, and the so-so types have too much influence in Democratic high circles.
I am a supporter of Elizabeth Warren, rather than HC. for example.