In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#49285 Jul 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
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I am just going by what the information posted on line says about the House of Lords, and how they are appointed, in some cases for life, and how they function, much similar to our Senate in Canada.
no... I am not the person asserting the members of the House of Lords are elected.

If you follow the thread back you can see I (again) refuted something Skanque said and she was stupid enough (as in the Enigma case, as in the monarchy case, as in the law that requires Christian worship in UK schools) to insist she was right and I think it is amusing if you want to try to follow the logic she uses to insist the members of the House of Lords are elected...

Even though (well of course) the OFFICIAL website describes the appointments in rather exacting detail.

Well... of course putting aside it's ridiculous to 'have' to prove.

It is one of those mental deficiencies of someone with an ego who can't admit he/she is wrong even when presented with a mountain of irrefutable proof.

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#49286 Jul 30, 2013
boooots wrote:
I do not live in the UK nor have I ever been there, but there is a massive misunderstanding of both Canadian and UK politics by people who do not live in those countries, going as far as some stating that the Queen runs Canada, which if she ever dared try, we would likely laugh at her.
I find it amusing to run at my Canadian friends to remind them that the Queen of England (her royal highness blah blah blah et cetera east and west and where the sky is blue and water is wet) is the head of state in Canada.

However: we both know her role in (what's left of) the UK is far from merely ceremonial, though I would happily admit the subjects of the ream pay royally for a long and expensive list of... cermonials.

Since: Jun 07

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#49287 Jul 31, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There is no connection- putting aside the USA has been MORE religious over the last decade or two.
I guess you leave measurable proof to others.
From the Telegraph: "The number of Americans who describe their religious preference as "no religion" is now 20 per cent, according to a new study. There is "no evidence of a slowdown" in this tendency, which has risen from eight per cent in 1990 and 14 percent in 2000. Ethnic minorities remain generally more religious, but this has become less true as they have become increasingly integrated into American society. The number of Hispanics with no religious affiliation has risen by 9.7 per cent since 1990; the number of African-Americans by 13.7 percent."

Oh and btw, the title of the story is "America is becoming less religious"

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timwigmore/...

Time again for you to f*ck off with your bullsh*t barefoot.

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#49288 Jul 31, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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There is no connection- putting aside the USA has been MORE religious over the last decade or two.
I guess you leave measurable proof to others.
And here's a link to the study, you pig-ignorant piece of sh*t: http://sociology.berkeley.edu/sites/default/f...

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49290 Jul 31, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Like the way you proved that the members of the House of Lords were appointed?
You sure showed me, Skanque!
I thought you had already agreed to that, or was that just another error you made that you hope will go away?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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contractually?
Context, Chubby.
Satire.
Have the postman explain it to you.
Yes that was an error, should have read congratulate, but look, contrary to your lies, I am perfectly able to accept my dyslexia sometimes means I make mistakes in spelling and grammar.

But of course you ignore your possible error so we assume that it was no error at all and you agree with my that the House of Lords is (in it’s way) elected, thank you

All you have to do to extricate yourself from this screw up is admit you made an error but of course I realised that you project when you accused be of being unable to accept responsibility because you are unable to accept responsibility for you own screw ups.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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And the postman has been known to cry out "eUUUUGH".
I don’t really give a toss what your postman cries out. I asked a question based on your post and you ignored it, you refused to respond, why? Bcause you are a pathetic, ignorant and stupid loosing scrounger and are frightened of the repercussions of your own post.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Of course you are, and you are so busy you can't get away from the desk.
Multimillion dollar pound sounds more like the wheelchair capacity the British healthcare system installed so you could drive your Scooter up to the first floor flat you and your equally fat pussies live in.
Meow!
The company is busy, I sometimes am.
You are welcome to your wet dreams, just so long as in your rare lucid states, when your medication is not having to much effect on your thinking process, you realise they are dreams

“Think&Care”

Since: Oct 07

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#49291 Jul 31, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Like quarks, eh?
Or your intelligence, eh?
Again, quarks are detectable in a variety of ways. Collision experiments in the mid-60's showed there to be particles inside protons. Quarks are detectable through the properties of the particles they produce. In fact, one of the first predictions of the quark theory was the existence of a particle that was then confirmed. Since then, not just the original three quarks (up, down, strange) have been detected, but three more have been (charm, bottom, top). What we have NOT seen is a *lone* quark. But we have detected many quarks. Furthermore, the quark theory is testable: it makes very specific predictions about the types and properties of subatomic particles that can be tested in accelerators.

Intelligence is detectable in a variety of ways, including discussions like this.

Once again, to exist means to be detectable and testable, at least in theory.

Let me put it this way: how do you know there isn't an elephant in your room?

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49292 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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That's clear.
Cherry picking again? That is a christian trait, surely you cannot be a christian?

Oh wait as moment, of course you are, the deliberate ignorance is there for all to see.

A little heads up, you want to make fun of me with deliberate lies then be prepared to have fun made of your with the truth.

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#49297 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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I agree with you completely. Atheists are do -nothing dead beats. The proof has been around for centuries.. All they do is waste their lives trying desperately to justify their way out of going to Hell. It won't work and they know that.
I laugh as I watch them scurry with phony excuses and lies. Liberals lie.
its because you're weak spineless coward that you cannot prove your god and must attack atheists instead.

When you have grown up and discovered that lying about god will not get you anywhere in life, we will be happy to talk, not before.

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#49298 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Yes, with their hands out , palms side up.
When you're brave enough to prove your god with actual evidence, your opinions about everything else might matter a more.

“Think&Care”

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#49300 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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5 sentences. 5 lies.
Prove any one of them wrong.

“Think&Care”

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#49301 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Yes, with their hands out , palms side up.
And helping those in need of help.

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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49303 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Yes, and we are . I never saw an atheist organization help a soul during the tornado damage in Illinois and Kentucky. Only faith based and Christian groups showed up with food , water, money, lodging, carpentry, supplies, etc.
You lazy atheists just sat on your couches spending tax dollars bickering about a God that does exist.
Ahh so you are saying that the American Red cross, the UNCF and Oxfam never helped out or are you simply lying again?

Or perhaps your are saying that ALL the local atheist organisations just turned their backs. Organisations like Foundation Beyond Belief who raised over $45,000 for victim aid. FreeOK atheist group helped families who needed wreckage removed. And many more…

Local atheist groups such as the Oklahoma Atheists, Atheist Community of Tulsa, the Lawton Area Secular Society, Norman Naturalism Group, and the Oklahoma State Secular Organization have organised volunteers, resources, and blood drives.


http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/06/24/1218...

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/06/23/times-j...

What it comes down to is the fact that you are repeating a christian lie, the fact that it is a christian lie makes no difference to the fact that is juts a lie. You think that attempting to bolster your religion with lies is the way to go? no wonder the christina church is in decline.

Lying for your god is a worse offence in the eyes of your god than any other.

Christians say that Satan is the father of lies, tell me why yopu worsip your god satan by lying?

…

I seem to remember that the highly religious US had to be shamed in to offering aid to the victims of the 2004 tsunami.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49305 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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You are a liar. You are an atheist.
Nope, I have no god to lie for, and unlike in my previous post where I proved you a liar you have no such proof.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49308 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Just look at how angry and nasty this atheist is. Atheists are such hateful people.
Whassup butt breath, all you need to do is accept that you are a deliberately ignorant liar and all this can go away

If you don’t like the sh|t you stir up then the simple answer is stop stirring up the sh|t

“Think&Care”

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#49309 Jul 31, 2013
Libs are morons wrote:
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So very VERY true.... it is no co-ink-ee-dink that athiest are always liberal.... and sitting on your arse waiting for someone else to do the work for you and then complaining about it, is indeed the liberal way.
Atheists tend to be doing the work because it needs to be done, not because they expect some eternal reward. They are often liberal because they are generally more intelligent and are more aware of how people are.

Why is it that the same areas of the US that are highly religious are also the least educated, the most obese, and the least educated? Oh, and they are also the red states.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49312 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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We don't have the burden to prove to you there is a God. When you are dead, you'll get the painful proof.
I get the feeling you know there is a God .....you just rebel and reject God and this forum is your way of showing your ass.
Your gutless life will be forgotten as you eternally perish.
Is this guesswork or do you actually have proof of what you say?

Of course you don’t you silly fool, you are living in a dream of speculation based on the writing of bronze age goat herders and escaped slaves.

What is so unfortunate is that you expect others, with considerably more intelligence than you, to bow down to your personal dream of “d’oh, I don’t understand so god musta did it by magic”

And when people say “stop dreaming” then you get all upset and shouty and abusive and lie and stamp your feet like a petulant child and blame you own personality defects on atheists as is the christian way.
Huh

Faribault, MN

#49315 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Your human body is enough proof. That alone proves there is a God , you stupid idiot.
LOL LOL ok idiot shut the F up...If you have some real proof tell it but not BS lies...Your religious HAVE NOTHING lies and myth don't count freak. I hope that when my grand kids children are adults all religion will have died out..It is heading that way...
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#49316 Jul 31, 2013
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Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49318 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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Funds were government based..
Also, they only helped out because it affected communities in their own backyard. They don't travel states away to help.
Stingy selfish bastards.
The funds raised by organisations like Foundation Beyond Belief were NOT government based sot here we have another lie.

And did christian organisations travel? Your thick moron, you are discussing a disaster area travel was difficult even for the military however you should note that the first 3 organisations I mentioned are national or international, therefore in some cases they travelled more than states, they travelled countries or even continents.

Also remember that in the effected states more than 75% are christian, and according to reports (and christians) less than 2% are atheist. You would expect a correspondingly lower turnout of atheists simply because there are LESS athiests.

Using those statistics atheists did far, FAR more than christians.

But, hey, feel free to lie for your god it that’s what gets you all hot and horny.

Remember your god can see you lying, as can everyone else that reads this thread.

And as for your lying snide comment of “Stingy selfish bastards”. I can honestly say that I have never come across any group of people more deliberately ignorant, lying, peevish, tight fisted, self centred, close ranks, egotistical, immoral and violent as christians are. However I will admit there are a few decent ones among them. But hey, that’s just my opinion (and the opinion of several others including some christians I know who consider you the worst sort of christian and a bad advertisement for christianity)

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#49319 Jul 31, 2013
Just Results wrote:
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You're lying for Satan, and you know it.
Nope. I don’t lie, I have no god to lie for and I have zero tolerance for lies, which is one reason I can’t stand christian liars

You are the one worshipping you god of lies.

There is a simple answer though, just stop lying and confirm you entry to your heaven.

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