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In America, atheists are still in the closet

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SupaAFC

Leven, UK

#48063 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Far be it for me to judge, of course the UK is a monarchy, SuperFAG's (et al.) refusal to acknowledge this is a reflection of his massive ego which is unable to concede that he is wrong, even after proved so.
Though I have to say it's hard for me to understand how an entire country would tolerate the institution, i.e., forking out billions of dollars to keep the queen and her family in bobbles.
Once again my manchild friend is running with a strawman.

Nobody, despite your continual spin, denies that Britain has a monarchy. Or that it has "powers". Or that the monarch is our head of state.

The point of contention, oh dishonest one, is your claim that as a result Britain does not qualify as a democracy.

It is no different whatsoever to arguing that the United States is a republic and only a republic. The only difference is your immensely hypocritical standards.
SupaAFC

Leven, UK

#48064 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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PS: If you follow the thread, you will find I define...
Only that the world does not change to fit how a manchild on an internet forum perceives it to be.

If you want to debate monarchies and democracies, then show us actual definitions used by political and legal scholars.

That includes Constitutional monarchy.

That includes democracy.

That includes republic.

It is not "let's play by Barefoot's standards" time. It is time for "let's play by academic standards".
Imhotep

Winter Garden, FL

#48065 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If Sweden is a democracy, the people can change the official name, eh?
Do you know anyone on the face of the planet who is asserting that North Korea is a democracy?
Not me.
Just a few minutes ago, we were told- not by me- that Sweden was a constitutional monarchy.
Is a constitutional monarchy a type of monarchy... or do we need to change the English language?
.

You lost the argument stupid

I can't help you're reading problem comprehension. I gave you the whole article failure to comprehend it is your problem not mine

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#48066 Apr 7, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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Parliament has not had assent to a bill refused by a monarch in over 300 years.
Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?

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#48067 Apr 7, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
You have humiliated nobody but yourself.
You don't remember insisting that a ' unanimous choice ' means 'almost everyone'?

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!

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#48068 Apr 7, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
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Don't you hate it when you're caught lying, you ignorant fool?!
Did Queen Elizabeth appoint the last prime minister?

Is United KING_dom a monarchy?

Is the Queen the head of the state church?

Does Britain have a law requiring public worship in tax-funded schools?

HAHAHAAHAHAHAH!

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#48069 Apr 7, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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Nobody, despite your continual spin, denies that Britain has a monarchy.
Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?

PS: PACKY insisted the UK was not a monarchy EXPLICITLY.

I'd bet you but you know: you word is absolute garbage and you've already britished your way out of a bet.

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#48070 Apr 7, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
<quoted text>.
You lost the argument stupid
Hey, stupid: your own post proves that Sweden is (as I said) a monarchy.

I guess you banged your head against your boyfriend's belt buckle a little hard.

I don't have to make you admit you are wrong, just slap the snot out of you (not difficult).

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#48071 Apr 7, 2013
Imhotep wrote:
**********
Form of government:
Constitutional monarchy, parliamentary democracy
**********
Is a constitutional monarchy a monarchy?

Yes or no, Shug.

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#48072 Apr 7, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
It is not "let's play by Barefoot's standards" time. It is time for "let's play by academic standards".
SupaAFC
#46664
Tuesday Jan 22


Review: Macmillan was the unanimous choice of the sitting Conservative cabinet; he was duly appointed the new PM.

++++++++++

Academic standards.... was Macmillan the unanimous choice?

Yes or no?

Remember, I already said he wasn't (NO).

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#48073 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a liar, Meatball.
liar [&#712;la&#618;&#6 01;]
n
a person who has lied or lies repeatedly
You are the liar here douche bag

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#48074 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a liar, Meatball
liar [ l&#299;&#601;r]
n
a person who has lied or lies repeatedly
You are the liar here douche bag!
SupaAFC

Leven, UK

#48075 Apr 7, 2013
In response to Barefoot's claim that I had no point, I said:

"Parliament has not had assent to a bill refused by a monarch in over 300 years. There is a point. Refute it".

His "refutation":
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
Barefoot could not refute the point so instead resorted to the same loaded question he continually asks when backed in a corner.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>You don't remember insisting that a ' unanimous choice ' means 'almost everyone'?

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH!
If you want to debate words compete on Countdown or play Scrabble with your carer.

When you are ready to actually attack the argument, let me know.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
Is the United States a republic, yes or no?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
PS: PACKY insisted...
I do not care. Whoever you have racially called "Packy" can argue his/her own points.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I'd bet you but you know: you word is absolute garbage and you've already britished your way out of a bet.
Only that when pressed to show where a bet was ever agreed, you go amazingly silent - despite hypocritically stressing the importance of quoting people "exactly"!
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Academic standards.... was Macmillan the unanimous choice?

Yes or no?

Remember, I already said he wasn't (NO).
How about showing us the whole post? We would not want people to think that you are deliberately mining a quote to argue a red herring to avoid addressing the actual argument itself now, would we?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>KING_dom of Sweden.

I didn't pick the name, Meatball.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Yes, you can copy and paste.
Now tell us the official name of Sweden.
Karma replied:
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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what's the official name of North Korea
PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF NORTH KOREA, you say
So North Korea must be a democracy, because of its name!!
I guess Lil Kim Un was ELECTED president...
what's the official name of Red China
PEOPLE'S DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC OF CHINA
So Red China must be a democracy,'cause is says so in its name..
and what is Barefoot's official name????
Barefoot responds:
barefoot2626 wrote:
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PS: If you follow the thread, you will find I define Sweden because it is a monarchy, not because their official name is the KING_dom of Sweden.
Rewind:

"I didn't pick the name, Meatball"

"Now tell us the official name of Sweden"

So... within a page, Barefoot used the name of Sweden as an argument that it is a monarchy... then tried to dismiss a comparative example by claiming the name of a country has no impact on its system of government.

Simply amazing. You can never admit to being wrong, can you?

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#48076 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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KING_dom of Sweden.
I didn't pick the name, Meatball.
mon·ar·chy mon-er-kee]
noun, plural mon·ar·chies.
1. a state or nation in which the supreme power is actually ***** or nominally **** lodged in a monarch. Compare absolute monarchy, limited monarchy.
2. supreme power or sovereignty held by a single person.
Sweden is a democracy with a constitution (the king have no political powers)

1. no political power at all
2. no political power at all

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#48077 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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MONARCHY, you say?
USA is a Republic Not a democracy

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#48078 Apr 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Hey, stupid: your own post proves that Sweden is (as I said) a monarchy.
I guess you banged your head against your boyfriend's belt buckle a little hard.
I don't have to make you admit you are wrong, just slap the snot out of you (not difficult).
you have somekind of mental problem ? monarchies can be democracies and that is a fact no lies from stupid americans like you can change that!
SupaAFC

Leven, UK

#48079 Apr 7, 2013
List of points and arguments that Barefoot cannot refute or explain:

"The world still awaits for the quote where I agreed to a bet.

The world is also waiting for you to define democracy...

... and explain why things within an umbrella term are the same...

... and why things can only be defined by one word...

... and what the Weimar Republic was if it was not a democracy...

... and why you cannot admit that universities do indeed give out politics degrees...

... and why for a supposedly powerful monarchy, Parliament has not had a bill refused by the royals in over 300 years...

... and why a Constitutional monarchy "is a monarchy", but absolute and electives are "kinds"...

... and why a Constitutional monarchy requires one physical Constitution to be defined as such...

... and why, quite simply, everybody and everything else - academia, history, reality - simply ridicules your inane argument about Britain not being a democracy.

For a guy who stresses the importance of quotes and pasting as many source as he can, it sure is funny how you never really seem to answer anything."

Goes for the pawns, ignores the King.

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#48080 Apr 7, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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You are the liar here douche bag
Still waiting for you to prove it, jizz'mbreath.

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#48081 Apr 7, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Sweden is a democracy with a constitution (the king have no political powers)
Sweden is a monarchy- with a king.

Still.

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#48082 Apr 7, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
List of points and arguments that Barefoot cannot refute or explain:
Poor SuperFAG: thinks I have to answer his straw man arguments.

I don't.

Meanwhile: he stands with his tiny grapes exposed.

Is the UNITED KING_____dom a monarchy, yes or no?

Yes, it is.

Does England have a state religion?

Why it certainly does.

Does unanimous mean "most"?

No, SuperFAG, unanimous means everyone.

Is the United States a republic? Gosh, SuperFAG: I posted this answer long before you asked it.

Oh, by the way, SueprFAG, you just told us no one denies that the UK is a monarchy.

Here's a quote:

"If Britain is a monarchy then the Queen should have legislative powers.

She does not.

Thus, Britain's system of government is not a monarchy. "

Who said that, SuperFAG?

PS: The type of government of the USA- or Canada, or North Korea, or Japan or China- has nothing to do with whether or not the UK is (as I said) is a monarchy.

Wipe your chin, honey, you have a few pearls running there...

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