In America, atheists are still in the closet

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SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#47065 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Do let me know.
Burden of proof is on you, SuperFAG.
But we still wait for you to put up.
And the proof has been provided. You are now making up excuses.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Yet... no degree in "politics".
This may sound crazy, but degrees are generally named after the school that they are issued in.

Single Honours students in Politics will obtain a degree called Politics.

Joint Honours students in Politics and IR/any other subject will obtain a degree called Politics and IR/other subject.

What are you demanding now? That I get the Politics and IR department to personally send you a message confirming that they issue degrees?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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But we still wait for you to put up, SuperFAG: you say I NEVER cite sources, I say I prove you wrong, and you fold up your tent.

Put up or shut up, SuperFAG.
Nice try to pretend that I am still stating this -after- you finally start citing sources such as the university lists.

You have -still- not provided the citation for your Macmillan source.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text> Comparative Political Parties and Elections

A:) "Comparative Political Parties and Elections" is a course- not a degree.

B) Still waiting... put up or shut up.
Students kind of have to study courses in order to obtain their degrees.

The degree is called Politics (and IR/other subject if joint). Courses have their own names.

Do you need crayons and paper?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>I've already provided the key phrase (putting aside that side deals you have with the European Union do not make for UK rights).
Nope, you simply copy-pasted and left it at that. You are trying to ignore the obvious problems that free speech brings and how the Human Rights legislation tries to balance licence with limits.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Has no bearing whatsoever on what I said.

Free speech would be something we are guaranteed here in the USA.

And a right you lack in the monarchy of the UK.
Really? Then email the presidential office with the most extreme vitriol you can think of then picket the funeral of a soldier. See how your freedom of speech helps you there.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Except you, it seems.
Even after I have proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are wrong, and that you lie, and no matter how many times I insist you back up something you claim for me to have said... you post what you assure everyone is what I meant to say.
Still waiting for you to put up.
Buck buck buck...buck-allllllllllllllll!
You can prove me wrong by defining democracy.

Oh wait - you don't - and we know why.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Absolutely don't care, has nothing whatsoever to do with the point, you must be lonely.
Except that it explains why hate speech is such a problematic issue when it comes to freedom of speech debate.

But then, we know how you act: freedom of speech, the umbrella term, and everything within it (including hate speech) are the same.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It doesn't.
Yes it does. Because of the Patriot Act Westboro can only picket to a particular radius of the funeral. In other words, far away from the mourners.

If they try exercising their freedom of speech within the radius, they get arrested. Fact.
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#47066 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You also forgot to explain in the example you gave of Denise Helms being arrested (according to you) for a post she made on Facebook.
Do I have to remind you several times a day before you get back to this?
Putting aside: it seems you are running away from that bet?
How can I run away from a point that you did not bring up in your posts?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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SupaAFC
#46271
Tuesday Jan 15
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If Britain is a monarchy then the Queen should have legislative powers.
She does not.
Thus, Britain's system of government is not a monarchy.
Key phrase: system of government.

If our system of government is a monarchy, then show me the Queen making laws.

Good luck!
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You like when you insisted that Macmillan had the UNANIMOUS support of his party, and then I proved that you were wrong, and then you said you made a "grammatical" error?
What your quote means nothing until you provide us the source. You know, that you keep refusing to do.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I shall say there are millions of examples when things can be defined as right or wrong based on one word.
Strawman: the issue was not whether something is right or wrong but whether things themselves can only be defined by one word.

Your logic is that if X can be defined by Y, it cannot be defined by Z.

If Britain can be defined as a monarchy, it cannot be defined as a democracy.

If Einstein can be defined as male, he cannot be defined as German.

In other words, you use an exclusive kind of logic that makes absolutely no sense in social studies because you act as if there is only black or white.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Such as when Macsnoozum "quotes" me, removing one single word (not) out of the "quote" and insisting it still means the same thing?
Still waiting for you to put up, SuperFAG, in the meanwhile, answer me this:
Is the United King_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
Is Britain a Constitutional monarchy, yes or no?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a m/f c/s liar.
Of course, we knew that already.
Then email the White House with the most offensive anti-Obama vitriol you can think of. If I am lying then you have nothing to fear.

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#47067 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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And the proof has been provided. You are now making up excuses.
Proof?

You have asserted that I have never cited my sources.

I have offered to provide proof for which you will stop posting.

Buck buck buck.buckALLLLLLL!

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#47068 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
This may sound crazy, but degrees
still no link...

Waiting... I prove cite, you stop posting.

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#47069 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Single Honours students in Politics will obtain a degree called Politics.
still no link... putting aside...

Waiting... I prove cite, you stop posting.

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#47070 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Students kind of have to study courses in order to obtain their degrees.
sun comes up in the east...

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#47071 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Translation: Barefoot
Note how m any times I have to point out that you need to paraphrase what I have said rather than provide the quote.

PS: note the QUOTE of you insisting Britain not a monarchy.

PPS: still no link... putting aside...

Waiting... I prove cite, you stop posting.

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#47072 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Review: Macmillan was the unanimous choice of the sitting Conservative cabinet; he was duly appointed the new PM..
Explain why this is a "grammatical" error... instead of just flat out wrong?

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#47073 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
If Einstein can be defined as male, he cannot be defined as German.
You insist on foisting your illogical thoughts on others.
I am not responsible for any of your creative fictions.

The entire world of computers revolves around boolean logic: is or is not, 0 or 1, yes or no.

The follow is an example: the United Kingdom is a monarchy.

Yes.

Not maybe.

Not it depends.

Not compared to...

It is.

But we still wait for you to put up.

Chicksh!t.

Runs in British DNA.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#47074 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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No, they can't.
They can be democrat-IC but they cannot be democracies.
stop lying!

Kingdoms can be democracies (no lies from you changes that)

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#47075 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sweden: Cost of royal wedding triggers monarchy debate
ordinary citizens are being asked to endure a new age of austerity.
(clip)
next wedding will be paid by the king him self

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#47076 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
You claimed that your Macmillan quote came from a non-Wikipedia source. You have failed to back up this assertion.
Also already refuted.

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#47077 Feb 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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stop lying!
Kingdoms can be democracies (no lies from you changes that)
Nope.

PS: I see you ran away from the fact that Swedes are paying a big chunk of that wedding.

If Sweden was a democracy: it would be paying a big chunk of everyone's wedding.

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#47078 Feb 6, 2013
Mikko wrote:
next wedding will be paid
GOSH... meatball!

"will be paid?"

You just called me a liar when I told you that Swedes pair for a big chunk foR it.

SO: AGAIN... I'm right... you're wrong

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#47079 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Is Britain a Constitutional monarchy, yes or no?
Oh, Sweetie: a constitutional monarchy is a kind of monarchy.

Where is that dictionary when you need it?

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#47080 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Another lie. I have never denied that Britain has a monarchy, I state that Britain is a Parliamentary democracy with a figurehead monarch at the top.
QUOTED:

SupaAFC
#46271
Tuesday Jan 15



If Britain is a monarchy then the Queen should have legislative powers.

She does not.

Thus, Britain's system of government is not a monarchy.
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#47081 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Proof?
You have asserted that I have never cited my sources.
I have offered to provide proof for which you will stop posting.
Buck buck buck.buckALLLLLLL!
And I will tell you for the second/third time that I do not compromise with manchildren. You eat your peas like a good boy instead of expecting to get rewarded for it.

Now that you have finally learned to cite sources (ie, university websites), perhaps you can now show me where you got the Macmillan quote from like an adult. Even if you choose not to, all that will accomplish is a public display of the dishonest lengths you go to keep a lie going.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>still no link...

Waiting... I prove cite, you stop posting.
The links have been posted. You have set up a strawman and attacked the courses within the degrees.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>sun comes up in the east...
And students pass courses to obtain their degrees.

Penny sunk yet?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Note how m any times I have to point out that you need to paraphrase what I have said rather than provide the quote.
The quotes can be located above each of my own statements. Translations allows everyday posters to see through your gibberish and see what your illogical nonsense means in reality.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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PS: note the QUOTE of you insisting Britain not a monarchy.
Britain's system of government. For you to prove me wrong would require showing the Queen making laws herself.

Good luck.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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PPS: still no link... putting aside...
Links proved; strawman you made.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Waiting... I prove cite, you stop posting.
I do not negotiate with manchildren. Either back up your claim or keep showing the world your compulsive dishonesty.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Explain why this is a "grammatical" error... instead of just flat out wrong?
Explain why you cannot address the argument?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>You insist on foisting your illogical thoughts on others.
I am not responsible for any of your creative fictions.
Those inconvenient literary devices that "foist" those "illogical thoughts" are better known as analogies.

Ana-log-ies.

Do my analogies appear illogical? Excellent - they should considering they mirror -your- illogical arguments!
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The entire world of computers revolves around boolean logic: is or is not, 0 or 1, yes or no.
Only that humans are not machines - whoops.

Social science, including politics, does not rely on asking machines for simple yes-no answers; such answers are vague, simplistic and do not explain the details within social phenomena.

This is why your logic fails. It explains ultimately nothing.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The follow is an example: the United Kingdom is a monarchy.
And an excellent example at that. Submit this in a political science paper and it would be laughed out of the department.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Also already refuted.
Really? Excellent - show me the source you got the quote from then.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Oh, Sweetie: a constitutional monarchy is a kind of monarchy.
Where is that dictionary when you need it?
It is also a "kind" of democracy considering that a Constitutional monarchy limits the powers of the monarch and transfers them to other bodies such as Parliaments.

That is why, you know, Britain is called a Constitutional monarchy - not just a blanket "monarchy" that you desperately wish it is.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#47082 Feb 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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GOSH... meatball!
"will be paid?"
You just called me a liar when I told you that Swedes pair for a big chunk foR it.
SO: AGAIN... I'm right... you're wrong
i called you a liar when you lied that sweden isn't a democracy douche!

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#47083 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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And I will tell you for the second/third time
You run your mouth and I slap the snot out of your.

RUN AWAY LITTLE BOY!

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#47084 Feb 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Now that you have finally learned to cite sources
Happy to prove CITE over a month ago.

Also a year ago.

Or two years ago.

RUN AWAY little BOY!

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