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#46851 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Remember that Einstein question you have run away from twice now?
Do you remember the have you stopped downloading kiddie porn question you refuse to answer, yes or no?

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#46852 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
For instance, a democratically-elected Parliament.
You keep forgetting the fact that MOST of the UK parliament is appointed.

And waste my time having to remind you.

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#46853 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
How about addressing the argument instead of clinging to word games?
Word games?

So when you lie about the nomination of Macmillan being the UNANIMOUS choice, you are insisting that I am not allowed to the point that you lie?

I am still waiting for you to announce that you were WRONG and that Macmillan was not only NOT the UNANIMOUS choice, but he was not even the UNANIMOUS choice of his own party.

Do you know what UNANIMOUS means, SuperFAG?

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#46854 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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Do tell us when you decide to attack the argument itself.
Do you mean like when you tried to excuse yourself out of saying that you were wrong by insisting it was a "grammatical error"?

SuperFAG?

In an assertion that had no grammatical errors?

Clearly: you can excuse yourself out of anything (as we have seen here) by insisting whatever you say was a 'grammatical error'.

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#46855 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
I shall assume that you will no longer be asking if Britain has a Constitution or not.
Sweetie: You know what happens when you ASSuME.

PS: I'm the one that had to remind you that the UK has no constitution.

PSS: It's still the United Kingdom, btw.

It will probably be "Britain" in twenty years, as Scotland, wales, and Cornwall dump you.

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#46856 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Simple - I used the wrong word to describe Macmillan's popularity.
He wasn't popular (a) and UNANIMOUS is one of those black and white questions that you insist don't exist.

I.E. It was an either unanimous choice... or you lied.

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#46857 Jan 26, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
And unanimous was meant to illustrate that Macmillan was the most popular choice.
Ah!

So I was correct when I said that you lied.

u·nan·i·mous
/yo&#862;o&#712;nan &#601;m&#601;s/
Adjective

1 (of two or more people) Fully in agreement.
2 (of an opinion, decision, or vote) Held or carried by everyone involved.

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#46858 Jan 26, 2013
u·nan·i·mous
/yo;s/
Adjective

1 (of two or more people) Fully in agreement.
2 (of an opinion, decision, or vote) Held or carried by everyone involve

“There is no god!”

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#46860 Jan 27, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Meatball is a dolt.
stop watching yourself in the mirror while writing
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#46861 Jan 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
We know whenever you start a sentence that way that you are going to lie about what you insist I have said but you just can't find that quote.
Side bets?
We know that you like to play word games and selectively respond to posts in order to suit your situation.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly, when you lied about your two degrees in "politics" you at least knew better than to claim you got them in English.
Have you checked the links yet?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Goalposts:
SuperFAG asserts that Macmillan was 'elected' by his party to be nominated by the Queen as PM.
Lie. Nobody else brought up Macmillan - you did.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Barefoot2626 proves: there was no election
Nobody claimed otherwise.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Macmillan was appointed by the Queen who asked advice of three senior Conservatives.
That is news to me - you never even claimed that the Queen asked for advice - you simply claimed that because Macmillan was not elected party leader then he was selected by the Queen.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I.E.: Barefoot2626 correct, SuperFAG wrong.
Barefoot making up strawman, SupaAFC refuting strawman.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>follow the thread, SuperFag.

You are not the only NotBot in the audience.
Then keep your other rants out of your responses to me - I have plenty of moles to whack already.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wikipedia is not the orginal source of most of what it posts.
Yet you do not mention this until you use Wikipedia. Why is that?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
And I pointed out EXACTLY the original source.
You did not even cite Wikipedia. I had to copy-paste your quote into Google as per usual.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
And I pointed out to you THE LITTLE NUMBERS of what you say I quoted, i.e., Wikipedia is replete with FOOTNOTES you dumfudge..
Yet when I use Wikipedia all you could comment on was the anonymous aspect of the website. Why, Barefoot, are you defending Wikipedia when you need to use it, but when I used it, you simply ignored the material?

Could it be confirmation bias? I think so.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have have NEVER EVER 'disqualified' anyone from using Wikipedia as a source.
Yes you have - you have even disqualified people from using -anything- from the internet since your words were along the lines of "anyone can find anything they want on the internet if they look hard to find it".

If you can ignore online material on that stipulation, then why do I, or anybody, have to listen to yours?
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#46862 Jan 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
We know whenever you start a sentence that way that you are going to lie about what you insist I have said but you just can't find that quote.
Side bets?
We know that you like to play word games and selectively respond to posts in order to suit your situation.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Clearly, when you lied about your two degrees in "politics" you at least knew better than to claim you got them in English.
You have completely ignored the links I posted.

Actions speak louder than words, manchild.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Goalposts:
SuperFAG asserts that Macmillan was 'elected' by his party to be nominated by the Queen as PM.
Lie. Nobody else brought up Macmillan - you did.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Barefoot2626 proves: there was no election
Nobody claimed otherwise.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Macmillan was appointed by the Queen who asked advice of three senior Conservatives.
That is news to me - you never even claimed that the Queen asked for advice - you simply claimed that because Macmillan was not elected party leader then he was selected by the Queen.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I.E.: Barefoot2626 correct, SuperFAG wrong.
Barefoot making up strawman, SupaAFC refuting strawman.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>follow the thread, SuperFag.

You are not the only NotBot in the audience.
Then keep your other rants out of your responses to me - I have plenty of moles to whack already.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Wikipedia is not the orginal source of most of what it posts.
Yet you do not mention this until you use Wikipedia. Why is that?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
And I pointed out EXACTLY the original source.
You did not even cite Wikipedia. I had to copy-paste your quote into Google as per usual.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
And I pointed out to you THE LITTLE NUMBERS of what you say I quoted, i.e., Wikipedia is replete with FOOTNOTES you dumfudge..
Yet when I use Wikipedia all you could comment on was the anonymous aspect of the website. Why, Barefoot, are you defending Wikipedia when you need to use it, but when I used it, you simply ignored the material?

Could it be confirmation bias? I think so.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I have have NEVER EVER 'disqualified' anyone from using Wikipedia as a source.
Yes you have - you have even disqualified people from using -anything- from the internet since your words were along the lines of "anyone can find anything they want on the internet if they look hard to find it".

If you can ignore online material on that stipulation, then why do I, or anybody, have to listen to yours?
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#46863 Jan 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>The United King_dom is a monarchy, yes or no?
Are mammals A, B and C the same?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>The USA is a monarchy, yes or no?
You claim that Britain is not a democracy because it has a monarch, in other words, a head of state. By your logic, any country with a head of state is not a democracy.

By your logic, democracies simply cannot exist.

What was the Weimar Republic if it was not a democracy?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Do you remember the have you stopped downloading kiddie porn question you refuse to answer, yes or no?
Translation: Barefoot believes that if a case can be defined by one word, then it cannot be defined by any other word.

Albert Einstein can be defined as male, but not as anything else.

Your logic, your rules.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>You keep forgetting the fact that MOST of the UK parliament is appointed.

And waste my time having to remind you.
You keep forgetting that the Lords do next-to-nothing.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Word games?

So when you lie about the nomination of Macmillan being the UNANIMOUS choice, you are insisting that I am not allowed to the point that you lie?

I am still waiting for you to announce that you were WRONG and that Macmillan was not only NOT the UNANIMOUS choice, but he was not even the UNANIMOUS choice of his own party.

Do you know what UNANIMOUS means, SuperFAG?
Like a typical fundamentalist you think that being wrong equates to lying. I picked a wrong word to describe Macmillan's popularity; you thus pounce on this word and proclaim to the world that I am a liar despite the fact that you, of all people, are exceptionally dishonest with Britain's government and refuse to address the substance of the argument.

To lie is to make a false statement with the intention to deceive; I did not.

By your logic, everyone who has ever been wrong has lied. This includes you, my manchild friend, when you claimed that the Weimar republic was not a democracy.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you mean like when you tried to excuse yourself out of saying that you were wrong by insisting it was a "grammatical error"?
SuperFAG?
In an assertion that had no grammatical errors?
Clearly: you can excuse yourself out of anything (as we have seen here) by insisting whatever you say was a 'grammatical error'.
Since you are an expert on language, how about defining democracy at long last instead of clinging to a one-word victory?

Scores a point; claims knock out.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Sweetie: You know what happens when you ASSuME.
If Britain is not a Constitutional monarchy by virtue of not having a Constitution, does that mean the source you cited calling us as such is wrong?
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>He wasn't popular (a) and UNANIMOUS is one of those black and white questions that you insist don't exist.

I.E. It was an either unanimous choice... or you lied.[QUOTE]

He was certainly popular - your Wiki quote even stated as such when it said "near unanimous".

Whoops - you have just, by your own logic, lied.

Unless you can prove me wrong, of course.

[QUOTE who="barefoot2626"] <quoted text>
Ah!
So I was correct when I said that you lied.
Is being wrong and lying the same thing?

How about when you claimed that universities do not issue politics degrees? Were you lying then?(I see you have not even bothered admitting being wrong here).

How about when you claimed the Weimar republic was not a democracy? Is that a lie?

How about when you keep refusing to answer whether mammal A and B are the same due to all cases having to adhere to their umbrella terms? Was that lying?

By all means, tell me.
barefoot2626 wrote:
u·nan·i·mous
While you have that dictionary open, do you mind defining democracy for me?

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#46864 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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We know that you like to play word games and selectively respond to posts in order to suit your situation.
Like the way I keep posting EXACT quotes and proving you are full of cr@p.

I am sure it must be annoying.

Especially when you try to do the same thing and have to instead post paraphrases of what you insist I must mean.

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#46866 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
What was the Weimar Republic if it was not a democracy?
What we can say is: it was not a monarchy... and the UK is.

I'll let you insist that Germany in WWII was a democracy.

You bore me.

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#46867 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Translation: Barefoot believes that if a case
See above: SuperFAG cannot find the quote he needs, insert the fictional paraphrase.

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#46870 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
<quoted text>
Are mammals A, B and C the same?
Poor SuperFAG, never a quote around, he insists on moving the goalposts.

Is a tuna a mammal, yes or no?

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#46871 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
If Britain is not a Constitutional monarchy by virtue of not having a Constitution
Poor SuperFAG, never a quote around when he needs one.

What a shame it doesn't slow him down when it comes to inventing them.

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#46872 Jan 29, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
Is being wrong and lying the same thing?
Is lying about being wrong a lie?

Yes or no, SuperFAG.

Happy to see the QUOTE where you said you were **WRONG** instead of saying that you made a 'grammatical error'.
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#46873 Jan 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Like the way I keep posting EXACT quotes and proving you are full of cr@p.
I am sure it must be annoying.
Especially when you try to do the same thing and have to instead post paraphrases of what you insist I must mean.
Far from it; on the contrary you respond to snippets of my posts, usually cutting them off mid sentence, while ignoring the other 95 percent.

I, on the other hand, respond to yours word for word, line for line, post for post.

Facts are facts, manchild.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously, SuperFAG, explains the stains on your shirt.

Wipe your chin.

Let me know when you can prove anything you say.

Anything.
Translation: Barefoot cannot admit he was wrong about universities giving out politics degrees.

Your silence speaks louder than your words, little boy.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
What we can say is: it was not a monarchy... and the UK is.
I'll let you insist that Germany in WWII was a democracy.
You bore me.
You never mentioned "in WWII"; you simply said that the Reichstag was democratically elected but was still not a democracy.

Thus, you were talking about Germany pre-1934, before the Nazis eliminated democratic elections. So, if the Weimar republic was not a democracy, then what was it? "Not a monarchy" is in the same vague answer league as saying "not a frog" or "not a space station".
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>See above: SuperFAG cannot find the quote he needs, insert the fictional paraphrase.
It is based on the logic you use and your refusal to answer my questions.

You have claimed that as Britain can be defined as a monarchy, it cannot be defined as a democracy. It is -exactly- like saying that as Einstein can be defined as a male, he cannot be defined as German, scientist, etc.

I ask you to address this. You refuse to.

Conclusion?

Manchild thinks that things can only be defined by one word.

Let me make it even simpler for you to understand: since you can be defined as a manchild, you cannot be defined as an American.

Your logic, your rules.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor SuperFAG: pants around ankle, tiny pickle exposed, he tries to move the goalposts yet again.

Now he tries to pretend it turns on "constitutional monarchy".

Isa the UK a monarchy, yes or no?

Wipe your chin!
Are mammals A and B the same? Are nationalities the same? Are all cars the same?

No answers, no substance, no argument. Manchild logic fails like that.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>Is lying about being wrong a lie?

Yes or no, SuperFAG.

Happy to see the QUOTE where you said you were **WRONG** instead of saying that you made a 'grammatical error'.
When did I lie about being wrong?

When are you going to admit to being wrong about politics degrees and universities? Or the Weimar republic not being a democracy, then changing your argument to include "in WWII"? Or being wrong about all things being the same under umbrella terms? Or that things can only be defined by one word?
SupaAFC

Crieff, UK

#46874 Jan 29, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor SuperFAG, never a quote around, he insists on moving the goalposts.
Is a tuna a mammal, yes or no?
You are again demonstrating that you have no idea what you are arguing against.

I am not denying that differences exist between umbrella terms, in this case, mammals and fish.

what I am saying, manchild, is that when we look into the variants within umbrella terms - ie, between mammals like monkeys, horses, dogs, etc, we distinctive differences that lead to further sub-divisions within that family.

In other words, you cling to "monarchy". Your own sources call Britain a Constitutional monarchy specifically because our system of government - complete with the Queen at the top - is significantly different to other monarchies such as in Saudi Arabia.

Yet by your stupid logic of having to look at only the umbrella term, you act as if these differences are non-existant.

All monarchies are the same.

All mammals are the same.

All fish are the same.

That is the point. That is what you cannot refute. That is why your argument fails.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Poor SuperFAG, never a quote around when he needs one.

What a shame it doesn't slow him down when it comes to inventing them.
It cannot be any more obvious that you deny that Britain is a Constitutional monarchy. That is why you keep asking if we have a Constitution or not.

Heck, let's play your own game:

Is Britain a Constitutional monarchy? Yes or no?

I am not inventing your silence - and that is what is giving your game away.

Accept it, little boy: you think if you say nothing I cannot prove that you think Britain is not a Constitutional monarchy.

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