In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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Is the Untied Kingdom a monarchy, yes or no?
Cosmetically, yes.

Now what?

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You will die.
Anything else, Booby?
As long as geriatric medicine keeps getting better faster than I'm getting older...

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Cosmetically, yes.
Now what?
What I said:

(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
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What you claimed I said (and do notice the quote marks):
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A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".

(/quote)

Now what is the difference between "there is no range of choices"
and what claimed I said:'there IS a "range of choices"'.

Class?

Is there NO difference?

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What I said:
(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
(/quote)
What you claimed I said (and do notice the quote marks):
(quoted:)
A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".
(/quote)
Now what is the difference between "there is no range of choices"
and what claimed I said:'there IS a "range of choices"'.
Class?
Is there NO difference?
"The monarch of Great Britain is much more powerful than the monarch of Sweden."

That's a description of a range.

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That's a description of a range.
Reminding you that I proved you to be a liar (again)

What I said:
(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
(/quote)

What you claimed I said (and do notice the quote marks):
(quoted:)
A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".

(/quote)

What I said: "there is no range of choices".

Do you see the word ******NO********* there?

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"The monarch of Great Britain is much more powerful than the monarch of Sweden."
PS: Sweden is a monarchy. the United KING_dom is a monarchy.

There isn't "range" of monarchies anymore than there is a range of 'tails' in a flip of a coin- it is either a tails or it isn't.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
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You will die.
Anything else, Booby?
Well, there is that, of course. I am also reasonably certain that I was born. That makes 2 things. I'm not certain that all this uncertainty is warranted.

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PS: Sweden is a monarchy. the United KING_dom is a monarchy.
There isn't "range" of monarchies anymore than there is a range of 'tails' in a flip of a coin- it is either a tails or it isn't.
"The monarch of Great Britain is much more powerful than the monarch of Sweden."

Range.

Since when does your Sun rise in the North?

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PS: Sweden is a monarchy. the United KING_dom is a monarchy.
There isn't "range" of monarchies anymore than there is a range of 'tails' in a flip of a coin- it is either a tails or it isn't.
Excluded Middle Fallacy, again.

Why is it that you seem to consider such fallacies to be unanswerable arguments?

They're not.

Oh, and look up the difference between "debate" and "contradiction" - you're on the wrong side of that fence, too.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"The monarch of Great Britain is much more powerful than the monarch of Sweden."
Of course you don't want to address your lie- the misquote- above.

It isn't something that is debateable.

You lied.

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<quoted text>Excluded Middle Fallacy, again.
I cannot help you do not know what a excluded middle fallacy is.

And the first condition of a excluded middle fallacy is: there is more than two conditions, i.e., a third.

A country is or is not a monarchy.

A flip of a coin results in either a heads or a tails.

No matter how hard you stomp your feet...

And you are a liar, BTW.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Excluded Middle Fallacy, again.
Of course, we can further demonstrate what the "excluded middle" fallacy is by using what a quote is and isn't.

A quote is the exact words of a person as they were said or written. To add or delete (to change) what a person said or wrote and attempt to pass it off as a quote is of course a lie.

So either something is a quote, or it isn't a quote.

This doesn't require your agreement, by the way.

If you try to pass off something as a quote (specifically when it is marked as such) and it isn't EXACTLY the same, then it isn't a quote.

There is no middle ground, there is no third option. There is no fallacy in asking whether or not something was or was not a quote.

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macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"The monarch of Great Britain is much more powerful than the monarch of Sweden."
Range.
There is no range in the state being a monarchy, dullard. There is a range in the power that the monarch can exercise.

You do remember this?
mon·ar·chy
[mon-er-kee] noun, plural mon·ar·chies.
1. a state or nation in which the supreme power is actually or nominally lodged in a monarch. Compare absolute monarchy, limited monarchy.
Do try to note that an absolute monarchy and a nominal monarchy are- and this seems to be the tricky part for you- MONARCHIES.

PS: Thanks for providing me the opportunity again to prove you t0o be a liar.

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Of course, we can further demonstrate what the "excluded middle" fallacy is by using what a quote is and isn't.
A quote is the exact words of a person as they were said or written. To add or delete (to change) what a person said or wrote and attempt to pass it off as a quote is of course a lie.
So either something is a quote, or it isn't a quote.
This doesn't require your agreement, by the way.
If you try to pass off something as a quote (specifically when it is marked as such) and it isn't EXACTLY the same, then it isn't a quote.
There is no middle ground, there is no third option. There is no fallacy in asking whether or not something was or was not a quote.
Really? Where do assertions fit it?

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Really? Where do assertions fit it?
Are you stalking me now, Bobby?

I mean: that's fine, but I'll have to go to the store and pick up more kibble.

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Are you stalking me now, Bobby?
I mean: that's fine, but I'll have to go to the store and pick up more kibble.
And some Budweiser please. Thank you.

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And some Budweiser please. Thank you.
Ah, you drink chic 'beer'.

No surprise.

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Ah, you drink chic 'beer'.
No surprise.
What's your 'beer'?

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What's your 'beer'?
The kind you can knock over and pick up the glass and none of it is spill't.

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PS: Sweden is a monarchy. the United KING_dom is a monarchy.
There isn't "range" of monarchies anymore than there is a range of 'tails' in a flip of a coin- it is either a tails or it isn't.
sweden is a representative democracy

a coin can stand on the edge

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