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#46222 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
That includes dissolving Parliament
The monarch has the power to dissolve the UK Parliament.

No one else.

No matter how hard you stomp your feet.

This is a fact; there are no shades of gray.

"In addition to opening Parliament, only The Queen can summon Parliament, and prorogue (discontinue without dissolving it) or dissolve it.

When a Prime Minister wishes to dissolve Parliament and call a general election, he or she is obliged to seek the permission of the Sovereign to do so. For this purpose, the Prime Minister usually travels to Buckingham Palace before announcing a general election.
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#46223 Jan 14, 2013
[QUOTE who="Citizen Pain"
So the UK is not a federation; it is a unitary state.[/QUOTE]

The United KING_dom is a monarchy: yes or no?

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#46224 Jan 14, 2013
Citizen Pain wrote:
England, Scotland and Ireland all were once Kingdoms
There are hundreds of kingdoms and other goverments that no longer exist, and Scotland is still part of the UNITED Kingdom, no matter how hard you stop your feet, and it is not a nation as far as the UN is concerned.
SupaAFC

Leeds, UK

#46225 Jan 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I guess we forget whining and crying about the two-sided coin.
There are sometimes (often) black and white and yes or no responses, no matter how hard you stomp your feet.
Heads or tails, SuperFAG?
Your black-or-white logic fails, however, when applied to complex scenarios.

Britain is a modern democracy with relics of its past. If Britain were a monarchy, which you so adamantly claim, then Elizabeth would have all the power, making all the laws, while the rest of us do nothing.

But that is not what we see.

You are flat out lying, Barefoot. Britain has a parliamentary system of government that is "ruled" by a figurehead monarch. Those are the facts, little boy.

And I see that in all your posts you responded with, none of them remotely attempted to explain what a democracy contains.

Why is that, Barefoot? Why do you refuse to set out criteria for a democratic system of government?

Oh yes, I remember: because you are lying.
SupaAFC

Leeds, UK

#46226 Jan 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Funny.
How many times have I asked you if the United KING_dom was a monarchy, yes or no?
Now that you cannot find ANY support for your position you are insisting that there's a third option?
It is impossible to answer your question without being plain false. If someone answers yes, then it neglects the fact that we have a Parliamentary system of government where the Queen acts as a figurehead. If someone answers no, then it obviously ignores the fact that we have a monarchy.

You ask this question to deliberately trick people. It is dishonest, but then, that is what dishonest people do.

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#46227 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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Your black-or-white logic fails, however, when applied to complex scenarios.
It doesn't.

Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?

I gave you my response months ago.

Funny how you can do it.

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#46228 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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It is impossible to answer your question without being plain false.
You are a liar.

The United Kingdom is a monarchy.

You are welcome to deny it.

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#46229 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
then it neglects the fact that we have a Parliamentary system
As I pointed out to you the first fifty times you cried about it: it doesn't matter.

mon·ar·chy
[mon-er-kee}
noun, plural mon·ar·chies.
1.
a state or nation in which the supreme power is actually or nominally lodged in a monarch. Compare absolute monarchy, limited monarchy.
2.
supreme power or sovereignty held by a single person.

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do you see any exceptions?

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#46230 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
You are flat out lying, Barefoot..
Yet I am able to prove you to be the liar.

Is the United Kingdom a monarchy, yes or no?

I say yes.

Do you deny it it?

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#46231 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
It is impossible to answer your question without being plain false. If someone answers yes, then it neglects the fact that we have a Parliamentary system of government
Are there one hundred pennies in a dollar, yes or no?

The answer is yes.

I don't have to describe the dates on the pennies, I don't have to tell you that the 1943 penny is made mostly of steel instead of copper.

The answer is yes.

The complete answer needed to be true is: yes.

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#46232 Jan 14, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
And I see that in all your posts you responded with, none of them remotely attempted to explain what a democracy contains.
I don't give you my recipe for slow crock bread pudding either and it is possibly the best in the world.

Do you deny the United Kingdom is a monarchy, yes or no?

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

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#46233 Jan 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH !
I guess that heavy dose of male DNA you swallow softens the brain cells.
Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?
Ask Packy.
a democracy

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Sweden

#46234 Jan 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You are a liar.
It started with you insisting the Americans didn't capture an enigma- which I disproved- and you being confused about the U505 being captured by Americans- which I proved- while you insisting I was "confused" by a movie that I had never seen with you being confused about it being a FICTIONAL movie rather than a documentary... with you insisting the first enigma machine was from the U110- which I disproved- with you then insisting it was the first "working" enigma, which of course is still nonsense.
Americans didn't capture the first enigma
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#46235 Jan 14, 2013
I always thought we got the first one from some brave Polish people, even before the Royal Navy got one. Is that the case?
Mikko wrote:
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Americans didn't capture the first enigma
Lincoln

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#46236 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I always thought we got the first one from some brave Polish people, even before the Royal Navy got one. Is that the case?
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Poland cracked the code, gave it to the French and when France fell in 1940 to the British.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#46237 Jan 14, 2013
Sources?
Lincoln wrote:
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Poland cracked the code, gave it to the French and when France fell in 1940 to the British.
Lincoln

United States

#46238 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
Sources?
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any of nine books on Enigma.

However, decades after Nazi Germany's Enigma code was first cracked, Poland has gone on the offensive to reclaim the glory of a cryptological success it feels has been unjustly claimed by Britain.

Frustrated at watching the achievements of the British wartime code breakers at Bletchley Park lauded while those of Poles go overlooked, Poland's parliament has launched a campaign to "restore justice" to the Polish men and women who first broke the Enigma codes.
Hailed as "heroes" in the resolution, Rejewski, Rozycki and Zygalski worked at the Polish Cipher Bureau in the early 1930s, and in late 1932 came up with three methods for breaking the encrypted codes produced on the Enigma machine, which the Germans thought were unbreakable.

Historians believe that the Allies' ability to eavesdrop in on German coded communications helped shorten the war in Europe. But much to Polish frustration the work of British cryptologists at Bletchley Park, including Alan Turing who would go on to pioneer early computers, has since attracted most of the credit.

"In both popular literature and official information the public was told that the breaking of the Enigma codes was due to the work of the British intelligence services to the complete omission of the work of Polish scientists," reads the resolution.

The 2001 film Enigma, in particular, ruffled Polish feathers. The British production starring Kate Winslet and set in Bletchley Park made little mention of the Polish contribution to cracking the codes, and rubbed salt into the wounds by depicting the only Pole in the film as a traitor.

"This resolution restores justice," said Jan Rulewski, a senator from the governing Civic Platform party. "Not only did the Western Allies marginalise the achievements of Polish cryptographers, but the Soviets did the same. They were silent about the Polish contribution to saving the lives of hundreds of thousands of troops fighting on all fronts."

At a meeting outside Warsaw in July 1939, just weeks before the start of the Second World War, the Poles passed on the secrets of the Enigma codes to British and French intelligence officers, and handed over Polish-made replicas of Enigma machines.

The British went on develop their own core of elite cryptographers based at Bletchley Park, and while the Germans constantly added layers of complexity to their Enigma codes the principles discovered by the Poles still applied.
"We have a duty to remind people just what the Polish cryptologists did," said Senator Piotr Zientarski.

The campaign to garner greater recognition for the Polish code breakers reflects a more widespread annoyance in Poland over how the country's contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany has often been overlooked or downplayed in post-war accounts.

Polish pilots had the highest kill rates in the Battle of Britain, Polish troops fought in the North African, Italian and Normandy campaigns, and were involved in the Battle for Berlin.

Despite their efforts, a British desire to appease Stalin meant that Polish forces, still under the command of Poland's independent government in exile, were banned from taking part in official V-E Day celebrations.

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#46240 Jan 14, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Americans didn't capture the first enigma
Didn't say they did.

You keep working on your English, Meatball.

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#46241 Jan 14, 2013
Thinking wrote:
I always thought we got the first one from some brave Polish people,
Nope.

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#46242 Jan 14, 2013
"The 2001 film Enigma, in particular, ruffled Polish feathers. The British production starring Kate Winslet and set in Bletchley Park made little mention of the Polish contribution to cracking the codes, and rubbed salt into the wounds by depicting the only Pole in the film as a traitor."

Of course, Skanque had a royal fit when an American FICTIONAL film portrayed the captured of a German submarine based loosely on U110 (and U505) as being captured by Americans.

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