In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#46138 Jan 11, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Fallacy of the Excluded Middle.
The fallacy of the Dumb Azz.

Either the United KING_dom IS a monarchy or it is NOT a monarchy.

There is no middle. It is either *A* or it is *B*. there is no B-; there is no B+ and certainly there is no C.

A person is pregnant or a person is not pregnant.

There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices.

So we know there is yet something else you know nothing about.

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#46140 Jan 11, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Just so.
Barfy still has not recognized the difference between a constitutional monarch and an absolute monarch.
Macasnoozum still hasn't recognized that both are monarchies.

True or false: a constitutional monarchy is a monarchy.
Barefoot2626 says: true.

True or false: an absolute monarchy is a monarchy.
Barefoot2626 says: true.

PS: there are other types of monarchies.

Do let me know if you want my opinion on those.

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#46141 Jan 11, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
Yes, Barefoot is one of those two-state thinkers that are so prevalent among fundamentalists.
And people who insist on speaking the English language and not lying just because someone has pulled down their panties and made to look the fool.

And thanks for confirming that there is no logical fallacy here: that someone is wrong and I am (again) right.

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#46142 Jan 11, 2013
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
In their view, there exist only two states...the two extremes.
A two side coin has two sides: heads and tails.

Only someone who has had his panties pulled down around his ankles would insist there is a third side.
Lincoln

United States

#46144 Jan 12, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Atheism describes only the lack of belief in a God, it is not an ideology.
Depends on which atheist belief

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

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#46145 Jan 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
The fallacy of the Dumb Azz.
Either the United KING_dom IS a monarchy or it is NOT a monarchy.
There is no middle. It is either *A* or it is *B*. there is no B-; there is no B+ and certainly there is no C.
A person is pregnant or a person is not pregnant.
There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices.
So we know there is yet something else you know nothing about.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, while the wise so full of doubt." Bertrand Russel

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#46147 Jan 12, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Depends on which atheist belief
Nope.

Of course: I use the English language.

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#46148 Jan 12, 2013
RHill wrote:
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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, while the wise so full of doubt." Bertrand Russel
How many sides are there to a coin, Booby?

It takes not a wise man to count to two.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#46149 Jan 12, 2013
Great post. I've got an image of his teapot on my shirt.
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so sure of themselves, while the wise so full of doubt." Bertrand Russel
brown eyes

Christiansburg, VA

#46150 Jan 12, 2013
Helping I figured Iraqi people wanted to thank me for help in Iraq. Cannot pick up Afghan USO station. GF008 Safer World 2013

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#46151 Jan 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The fallacy of the Dumb Azz.
Either the United KING_dom IS a monarchy or it is NOT a monarchy.
There is no middle. It is either *A* or it is *B*. there is no B-; there is no B+ and certainly there is no C.
A person is pregnant or a person is not pregnant.
There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices.
So we know there is yet something else you know nothing about.
A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".

"...the monarch of the UK has far more power than the monarch of Sweden."

Your words.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#46152 Jan 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Macasnoozum still hasn't recognized that both are monarchies.
True or false: a constitutional monarchy is a monarchy.
Barefoot2626 says: true.
True or false: an absolute monarchy is a monarchy.
Barefoot2626 says: true.
PS: there are other types of monarchies.
Do let me know if you want my opinion on those.
And yet again, you acknowledge a range.
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#46153 Jan 12, 2013
I always respect your reasoning but cu*ts like bsfoot don't do logic.

They don't like it.
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>And yet again, you acknowledge a range.

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#46154 Jan 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".
"...the monarch of the UK has far more power than the monarch of Sweden."
Your words.
No, darling.

Sweden is a monarchy. The United Kingdom is a monarchy.

"Heads".

The USA is not a monarchy. It does not have a king or a queen, our head of state is elected.

"Tails".

Now your coin may have the image of King Gustoff or King Manfred- I don't care- and the coin the Tommys have in their pocket may be of Queen Liz... but they are still "heads".

They are still monarchs.

English language.

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#46155 Jan 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".
Thanks again for posting this- p[roof that you are so desparate that you have to misquote (putting aside even as you tried to whittle down and take out of context as best you can) what I said.

(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
(/quote)

**NO** range of choices...

I shall save this so there is NO doubt when I say that the NotBot stock and trade is the misquote and the paraphrase.

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#46156 Jan 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
And yet again, you acknowledge a range.
What I said:
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."

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#46157 Jan 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, darling.
Sweden is a monarchy. The United Kingdom is a monarchy.
"Heads".
The USA is not a monarchy. It does not have a king or a queen, our head of state is elected.
"Tails".
Now your coin may have the image of King Gustoff or King Manfred- I don't care- and the coin the Tommys have in their pocket may be of Queen Liz... but they are still "heads".
They are still monarchs.
English language.
"...the monarch of the UK has far more power than the monarch of Sweden."

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

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#46158 Jan 12, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks again for posting this- p[roof that you are so desparate that you have to misquote (putting aside even as you tried to whittle down and take out of context as best you can) what I said.
(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
(/quote)
**NO** range of choices...
I shall save this so there is NO doubt when I say that the NotBot stock and trade is the misquote and the paraphrase.
"...the monarch of the UK has far more power than the monarch of Sweden."

That's neither a misquote nor a paraphrase, nor did I in any way twist your meaning.

Those are your exact words, and an admission that there is, in fact, a range of monarchies.

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#46159 Jan 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"...the monarch of the UK has far more power than the monarch of Sweden."
Yes.

So?

Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?
Is Sweden a monarchy, yes or no?

Still looking for the apology for your deliberate misquote...

Thanks for confirming your are- above all other things- a deceitful liar.

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#46160 Jan 12, 2013
macumazahn wrote:
Your words.
Macasnoozum

What I said:

(quote)
"There is no middle ground, there is no range of choices."
(/quote)

What you claimed I said (and do notice the quote marks):
(quoted:)
A perfect example of the Excluded Middle fallacy - particularly amusing since you just admitted that there IS a "range of choices".

(/quote)

So- in the range of DELIBERATE deception, there is of course the paraphrase (which you employ all the time) and then there is THIS, where you edit a direct quote, and pull out one word to make it sound EXACTLY opposite of what I said.

Pretty low, Mack! Even for you!

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHA!

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