In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#45908 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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So, you don't like that the wikipedia moderators are strict about citations, and thus remove a lot of your idiotic assertions .
They don't remove them all and still waiting for the name of the author of your source...

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#45909 Jan 6, 2013
RHill wrote:
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I'd have to drive quite a ways to get to a "university library" and not real sure I'd be welcome there upon arrival.
You should take a shower.

Every day, Booby.

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#45910 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Interesting that you would not do your research
You used Wiki as a primary source.

Throwing stones, Chubby?

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#45911 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
Lincoln, you may enjoy living in the Stone Age, but most intelligent people eventually move into the modern era. Note that I said intelligent.
Intelligent people do not use Wiki as a primary source and they certainly don't pretend it is reliable.

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#45912 Jan 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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The fact that we have a monarchy
Ah, so we can return to the question I asked you months ago and you were unable to answer:

Is the United King_dom a monarchy, yes or no?

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#45913 Jan 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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Then we should not need a Parliament. But, a Parliament exists. Why?
Who cares?

Putting aside (again): the United KING_dom Parliament has more APPOINTED members than elected.

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#45914 Jan 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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The fact that we have a monarchy has little reflection on how our government actually operates.
Do let me know what language it is you operate.

In the English language, the United King_dom is indeed a monarchy.

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#45915 Jan 6, 2013
SupaAFC wrote:
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All your talk of our monarchy, and the Queen sits in her palace grooming corgis
I don't care if she is operating a vibrator: she is the head of the United Kingdom.

And the UK is a monarchy.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#45916 Jan 6, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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At the bottom of the wiki page is an evaluation :-)
Rate this page
What's this?
Trustworthy
Objective
Complete
Well-written
The only way to gather the most accurate information, one requires multiple sources .... LOTS of multiple sources. That is wikipedia's strength. A rating system like that is typically akin to popularity polls, to stroke the vanity of contributors and thus encourage more to contribute, thus increasing the pool of resources and citations ... ultimately resulting in more accurate information.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#45917 Jan 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Intelligent people do not use Wiki as a primary source and they certainly don't pretend it is reliable.
Aw, you're so enamored with me, how cute, the old man with the big honker in love with the bag of old bones that I am.

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#45918 Jan 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Do let me know what language it is you operate.
In the English language, the United King_dom is indeed a monarchy.
Oh? So Queens, New York, is ruled by a matriarchy? Too cool.

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#45919 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The only way to gather the most accurate information, one requires multiple sources .... LOTS of multiple sources. That is wikipedia's strength.
Garbage in, garbage out.

One needs only ONE source if it's reputable.

And that wouldn't be Wiki.

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#45920 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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Aw, you're so enamored with me, how cute
Stick to your D cell batteries, Chubby.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#45921 Jan 6, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You should take a shower.
Every day, Booby.
Ha ha.
Lincoln

United States

#45922 Jan 6, 2013
KittenKoder wrote:
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The only way to gather the most accurate information, one requires multiple sources .... LOTS of multiple sources. That is wikipedia's strength. A rating system like that is typically akin to popularity polls, to stroke the vanity of contributors and thus encourage more to contribute, thus increasing the pool of resources and citations ... ultimately resulting in more accurate information.
Wikipedia acknowledges that it should not be used as a primary source for research.[3]

Librarian Philip Bradley stated in an October 2004 interview with The Guardian that "the main problem is the lack of authority. With printed publications, the publishers have to ensure that their data is reliable, as their livelihood depends on it. But with something like this, all that goes out the window."[4] Robert McHenry similarly noted that readers of Wikipedia cannot know who has written the article they are reading – it may or may not have been written by an expert.[5]

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#45923 Jan 7, 2013
Sweden = Democracy

Democracy

"government by the people; a form of government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised directly by them or by their elected agents under a free electoral system."
Thinking

Leighton Buzzard, UK

#45924 Jan 7, 2013
Himmler was the only major nazi to be excommunicated by the vatican. His crime? Marrying a protestant.

Stalin went to priest school.
Lincoln wrote:
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Alter boy catholic when young,
Hitler was a Nazi,
Gassed Priests and nuns.
Atheists like to believe Hitler was a Roman Catholic.
Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Himler, Eichmann atheists

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#45925 Jan 7, 2013
Khatru wrote:
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You're quite entitled to retaliate.
Sadly, barefoot will never desist. He thrives on arguing with as many people as he possibly can and if that means being first with the name-calling then that's exactly what he'll do.
You're also spot on about his blatant racism towards Straa
Perhaps more people should report it - I have.
Thank you. I agree with you on barfy’s personality defects. However exactly because of those self-imposed flaws I consider watching his antics to have some entertainment value.

I too have reported his blatant racism and it is the reason I have started pushing the BF cuckold scenario. If he can’t stand the heat then he should not light fires.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#45926 Jan 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Any country that issues tax free status to religions that it determines to have more validity than any other religion has separation of church and state issues.
And of course: if it has an official state church (or a national church), then it more.
The monarchy of the United King_dom has issues.
Unlike US churches religions British churches and religions DO NOT have tax free status.

I have shown you the relevant HMRC documents and still you rant on about what YOU consider to be how things are, not how things ACTUALLY are. It’s pathetic.

No argument there, however not the irrelevant issues you make up and rant about

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#45927 Jan 7, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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500,000 as estimated.
Götz Bergander: Dresden im Luftkrieg, Flechsig, Würzburg 1998, ISBN 3-88189-239-7, p. 217
barefoot2626 wrote:
Another:
Dresden Holocaust: Slaughter
Of 500,000 German Civilians
www.canadianfreespeech.com
2-16-7
That is the maximum estimate of an unqualified third party seeking sensationalism and termed “the wilder fringes of speculation” by academics

http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/d...
Calculations of the death-toll from the Anglo-American bombing of Dresden in February 1945 have varied widely, but never ceased to be dramatic. Figures suggested have ranged from 35,000 through 100,000, and even up to half a million at.
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Now, more than 60 years later, it seems we must lower our estimates. After four years’ work, an impressive commission of German historians this week filed its report on this issue, and it seems that even the lowest figure so far accepted may be an overestimate. Drawing on archival sources, many never previously consulted, on burial records and scientific findings -- including street-by-street archaeological investigations -- plus hundreds of eye-witness reports, the “Dresden Commission of Historians for the Ascertainment of the Number of Victims of the Air Raids on the City of Dresden on 13/14 February 1945” has provisionally estimated the likely death-toll at around 18,000 and definitely no more than 25,000.
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And there are the political distortions. The Nazis were the first to exaggerate the number of victims for propaganda purposes, and the communists were liable to push the numbers up during the post-war period, in order to discredit the Anglo-Americans, who had been the Soviets’ allies until 1945 but were now their Cold War enemies. Finally, neo-Nazis in modern Germany conjure up dizzyingly high figures running into the hundreds of thousands, while at the same time playing down or denying the World War II mass murder of the Jews and the Roma and Sinti, hoping thereby to convince their fellow-citizens that the Allied bombing of Germany was an even worse “holocaust” than the actual one.

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