In America, atheists are still in the closet

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Lincoln

United States

#45841 Jan 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Neither you nor anyone else can really say what Hitler's actual religious faith was and it doesn't matter. This was the argument he used to get the German people to commit their horrors against the Jews.
Gott mit uns!
"Gott mit uns" is a belt buckle.
You are quoting belt buckles ?

SS under Himler directed the mass murders
Himler an atheist

Since: Feb 11

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#45842 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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So Hitler, a Nazi liar, pretends to be a Roman Catholic
You have nothing to prove otherwise and cannot refute what I posted, and, PS: for your information, the Catholic church makes a public display of who they discommunicate so official Hitler was (and is) Catholic.

I don't have time for another sun rises in the east 'argument'.

Since: Jan 13

Holiday, FL

#45843 Jan 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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Neither you nor anyone else can really say what Hitler's actual religious faith was and it doesn't matter. This was the argument he used to get the German people to commit their horrors against the Jews.
Gott mit uns!
Even if Hitler was an atheist, his atheism did not cause him to committ his crimes against the Jewish people, and atheism did not cause him to launch unprovoked wars of agression. Hitler had an unreasoning hatred and suspicion of Jews. So did the Protestant reformer Martin Luther.(Luther also advocated the destruction of the Jews.)

And plenty of non-atheists have launched unprovoked wars of aggression. The so-called Christians who decimated native American tribes in the U.S. during the 19th century are juts one example. In 2003, President George W. Bush ordered an unprovoked attack against Iraq, and yet he loudly proclaims himself a Christian. I am an atheist myself, but I have never committed an act of aggression against anyone, nor do I have any desire to do so.

So no, a person's religious faith, or lack of such faith, is not an indicator of whether than person is moral or immoral.

Since: Feb 11

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#45844 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Parliament has not existed at Monarch's will since Charles I was beheaded by Parliament.
Sun...east...

Thanks for posting, though... the British NotBots here are insisting no one is denying (or has denied) the UK is a monarchy... even though many of them have said as much... too...

Since: Feb 11

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#45845 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
discommunicate
excommunicate... brain fart
Lincoln

United States

#45846 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You have nothing to prove otherwise and cannot refute what I posted, and, PS: for your information, the Catholic church makes a public display of who they discommunicate so official Hitler was (and is) Catholic.
I don't have time for another sun rises in the east 'argument'.
Your high school classes resume on Monday?
Try your ideas there and see if they float.
School may have a library with books on English and German History.

"I don't have time for another sun rises in the east 'argument'." = You Lost!:-)
Lincoln

United States

#45847 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sun...east...
Thanks for posting, though... the British NotBots here are insisting no one is denying (or has denied) the UK is a monarchy... even though many of them have said as much... too...
"NotBots" = You lost those arguments as well?
Lincoln

United States

#45848 Jan 5, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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Even if Hitler was an atheist, his atheism did not cause him to committ his crimes against the Jewish people, and atheism did not cause him to launch unprovoked wars of agression. Hitler had an unreasoning hatred and suspicion of Jews. So did the Protestant reformer Martin Luther.(Luther also advocated the destruction of the Jews.)
And plenty of non-atheists have launched unprovoked wars of aggression. The so-called Christians who decimated native American tribes in the U.S. during the 19th century are juts one example. In 2003, President George W. Bush ordered an unprovoked attack against Iraq, and yet he loudly proclaims himself a Christian. I am an atheist myself, but I have never committed an act of aggression against anyone, nor do I have any desire to do so.
So no, a person's religious faith, or lack of such faith, is not an indicator of whether than person is moral or immoral.
"A person's religious faith, or lack of such faith, is not an indicator of whether than person is moral or immoral."
Agree!
The 20th century was ravaged by atheist mass murders Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Eichmann, Trotsky, Ho, Himler etc.
Atheist century

Since: Dec 12

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#45849 Jan 5, 2013
Within seconds of their death, every single atheist will become an instant believer in Almighty God! www.scribd.com/doc/31322017 ...

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#45850 Jan 5, 2013
Calm Liberal wrote:
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Even if Hitler was an atheist, his atheism did not cause him to committ his crimes against the Jewish people, and atheism did not cause him to launch unprovoked wars of agression. Hitler had an unreasoning hatred and suspicion of Jews. So did the Protestant reformer Martin Luther.(Luther also advocated the destruction of the Jews.)
And plenty of non-atheists have launched unprovoked wars of aggression. The so-called Christians who decimated native American tribes in the U.S. during the 19th century are juts one example. In 2003, President George W. Bush ordered an unprovoked attack against Iraq, and yet he loudly proclaims himself a Christian. I am an atheist myself, but I have never committed an act of aggression against anyone, nor do I have any desire to do so.
So no, a person's religious faith, or lack of such faith, is not an indicator of whether than person is moral or immoral.
True. Religion is just a very convenient tool for getting masses of people to do things they might not otherwise do.

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#45851 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Your high school classes resume on Monday
Hitler = Catholic.

Sun- east

Since: Feb 11

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#45852 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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"NotBots" = You lost those arguments as well?
Is the United King_dom a monarchy, yes or no?

I guess as a troll you are sort of stuck here since you have taken both positions...

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#45853 Jan 5, 2013
He is Coming Soon wrote:
Within seconds of their death, every single atheist will become an instant believer in Almighty God!
Before or after, darling?

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#45854 Jan 5, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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True. Religion is just a very convenient tool for getting masses of people to do things they might not otherwise do.
Complete nonsense, of course.

One excuse as good as the next.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#45855 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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Alter boy catholic when young,
Hitler was a Nazi,
Gassed Priests and nuns.
Atheists like to believe Hitler was a Roman Catholic.
Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Mao, Himler, Eichmann atheists
Hitler = catholic (outlawed atheism)
Eichmann = christian
mao = went to catholic school
stalin = orthodox christian

atheism doesn't make people communists!
Lincoln

United States

#45856 Jan 5, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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Hitler = catholic (outlawed atheism)
Eichmann = christian
mao = went to catholic school
stalin = orthodox christian
atheism doesn't make people communists!
amusing but not correct .
you roam topix rather than a high school classroom.
Lincoln

United States

#45857 Jan 5, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Is the United King_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
I guess as a troll you are sort of stuck here since you have taken both positions...
Glorious Revolution
Constitutional Monarchy without a written constitution.
House of Commons

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#45858 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
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amusing but not correct .
you roam topix rather than a high school classroom.
you are a liar none of them was an atheist
Lincoln

United States

#45859 Jan 5, 2013
Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Trotsky, Mao, Himler, Eichmann all were atheists.

Mussolini was Christian.
His greatest hists album was called
"Raindrops keep falling on my feet"

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#45860 Jan 5, 2013
Lincoln wrote:
Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Castro, Trotsky, Mao, Himler, Eichmann all were atheists.
Nope.

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