In America, atheists are still in the closet

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Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#44718 Dec 14, 2012
Thinking wrote:
Apart from as Big Daddy, I-don't-care-who has been dire for years now.
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"Con Air".

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#44719 Dec 14, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Amended in 2010.
So?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The sun rises in the east. School children in the US recite the ledge of allegiance.
I can tell you from personal experience, when 30 children bleat "under God" in the morning, the sky does open up and a light fall down from the heavens.
Chicken Little you are?
Yes it’s called clouds and weather and gullibility. Funny that, the word gullibility is not in American dictionaries, why?
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I'm not the one who is insisting the sun doesn't rise in the east.
I'm the one who said the United KING_dom is a monarchy, and you (et al.) are the ones insisting otherwise.
You want to pretend that uttering the words "under God" is some kind of Christian patronage in the USA but you live in a country that has a LAW requiring Christian worship in 'public' schools -actual PRAYER- and a country that has a STATE religion and a country whose head of state is the head of that state religion.
It's hard to take you seriously, Skanque.
Ahh thanks for bringing up your mistakes, errors and stupidity, Several times I have shown you sites of maps and date lines to prove that the UK is east of the UK and therefore the sun rises on the UK before it rises in the US. And so what did you do? You came up with the BS that Hawaii receives it sun 14 hours before the UK when unfortunately for you it receives it 10 hours later and there is a recognised international date line west of Hawaii to prove you wrong. Yet still you insist on being stupid.

I have NEVER said the UK is not a monarchy, you are the one who said that I said it, in other words you repeatedly LIED. I have stated that the UK is a monarch several times and have shown you links to government and the queens own site to show you the FACTS. You are the one ignoring the FACTS and insisting on being stupid

Which god? Of course it is a christian thing in the US, or perhaps they mean Odin or Kali or Zeus or Jupiter? Or any one of the 3700+ other deities lying around in literature. Nope they capitalise the G in the way of good christians so we are talking the abramamic god and by law (L A W) the majority of US pupils must give patronage BY LAW.

In 2008, eight states had no laws requiring students recite the Pledge of Allegiance at school. That number has recently dwindled to five, with Nebraska being the latest state to adopt a statewide mandate.

Louis Bowman introduced the under god BS, he was chaplain. Soon after the Catholic fraternal service organization also started using the words. Then Holger Christian Langmack wrote to Truman suggesting the words were included nation-wide, Langmack was a christian religious leader. It goes on for another couple of years with the christian right pushing for it’s inclusion until finally the pledge was amended under the watch of the newly baptised presbyterian christian, Eisenhower

“Some kind of Christian patronage”, yes, live with those facts.

Yes the law exits, what does that mean? It means that the law exists, great, the law as repeatedly stated by several people who “actually live” in the UK (and not just read cherry picked articles as you do) is not relevant in today’s society.

Unlike the law in all but 5 US states that insist that pupils recite the pledge and thus give homage to a myth (and a piece of cloth)

Oh drippydick you are such an ignorant fool.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#44720 Dec 14, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
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The easiest way to deal with him is to respond only to his first post. Barefoot's tactic is to substitute quality with quantity so tries his upmost to overwhelm people with waves of posts that do not really differ much at all.
Barefoot: everybody's favourite manchild whack-a-mole.
He tries… He fails… That is the lot of the average dim-witted manchild

Is it his fault he has no friends? OK perhaps that was the wrong question, of course it’s his fault.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#44721 Dec 14, 2012
That's just two decent performances in 15 years...
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>"Con Air".

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#44722 Dec 14, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I point to the stains on your pillowcases, and to your sticky gums.
As I said - Prove it cocksucker.

We are not interested in your ignorance, lies, wet dreams and JW imagination
barefoot2626 wrote:
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How many times to I have to explain to you, Sticky, that the law in the UK requires "public" schools *provide* religious worship, not that it forces children to attend?
I understand it is beyond you- that having a school by law provide religious worship is government establishment of (in the UK ) state religion.
Who cares, the fact remains that it is not relevant in today’s society. Unlike the increased forcing by LAW for children to recite the pledge of allegiance and patronage of the christian god.

No you understand fookall but that’s your problem, not mine
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Temper, temper!
Between the two of us, BTW, you are the one that notices the drips.
What has showing you do be a cocksucker got to do with temper?

I have never met you so don’t notice the stains on the front of your pyjama bottoms. I do however take note of your hateful, ignorant, spiteful, vindictive and untrue posts and can only assume that the reason for your uncivilised behaviour is syphilis affecting your brain, and of course staining your trousers with a foul smelling puss. It could of course be something else completely that makes you a gibbering nutcase, please advise if I have made the wrong assumption.
dr fill

Des Plaines, IL

#44723 Dec 14, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The monarch asked opinions of two people for whom she had respect.
The decision was entirely hers to make.
No matter how hard you stomp your feet, SuperFag.
I bet you hit on some slaves back then hah pops?
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#44724 Dec 14, 2012
Atheist are not in any "closet". They are running all over the country trying to find communities that can't afford law suits, schools, companies, and anyone else that is in no position to hire lawyers and spend thousands in court trying to defend themselves from the atheist whining that some cross is "offending" them even though they are not from the area the cross is in at all and never have too or would have to see it if they hadn't gone out in search of it to begin with.
They are the biggest whiners I've ever heard of in my life. Offended by a cross, any symbol of religious belief, or any symbol of Christmas other than the "Santa" side of it. Whiners the whole lot of them. If you can be so offended by a "symbol" you don't even have to look at if you don't want too then you are too freakin sensitive to exist at all. Go back under your rock where you only have to look at the things that don't hurt your little eyes to look at.

Since: May 10

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#44725 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
Atheist are not in any "closet". They are running all over the country trying to find communities that can't afford law suits, schools, companies, and anyone else that is in no position to hire lawyers and spend thousands in court trying to defend themselves from the atheist whining that some cross is "offending" them even though they are not from the area the cross is in at all and never have too or would have to see it if they hadn't gone out in search of it to begin with.
They are the biggest whiners I've ever heard of in my life. Offended by a cross, any symbol of religious belief, or any symbol of Christmas other than the "Santa" side of it. Whiners the whole lot of them. If you can be so offended by a "symbol" you don't even have to look at if you don't want too then you are too freakin sensitive to exist at all. Go back under your rock where you only have to look at the things that don't hurt your little eyes to look at.
Well said.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#44726 Dec 14, 2012
You seem damaged. Show the nice officer where your priest touched you.
X Obama Supporter wrote:
Atheist are not in any "closet". They are running all over the country trying to find communities that can't afford law suits, schools, companies, and anyone else that is in no position to hire lawyers and spend thousands in court trying to defend themselves from the atheist whining that some cross is "offending" them even though they are not from the area the cross is in at all and never have too or would have to see it if they hadn't gone out in search of it to begin with.
They are the biggest whiners I've ever heard of in my life. Offended by a cross, any symbol of religious belief, or any symbol of Christmas other than the "Santa" side of it. Whiners the whole lot of them. If you can be so offended by a "symbol" you don't even have to look at if you don't want too then you are too freakin sensitive to exist at all. Go back under your rock where you only have to look at the things that don't hurt your little eyes to look at.
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#44727 Dec 14, 2012
Thinking wrote:
You seem damaged. Show the nice officer where your priest touched you.
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I have never been touched by a priest, I'm not religous and I do not attend church. But I am also not a whiney little atheist that is offended by the mere sight of cross or a religous symbol, or a Christian Christmas display, to the point that I would go hire a lawyer and cry about it until it is removed so my whittle sensitive eyes don't have to see something that apparently scare the living sh*t out of me. Poor thing, life must be difficult for such a sensitive ignorant damaged babe as yourself. "Whaaa there's a cross in my eyes, there's a cross in my eyes!!!"
top atheist

Des Plaines, IL

#44728 Dec 14, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
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Well said.
As an atheist,Im offended that your even talking about the cross.Its just two beams crossed.Whats the big deal? I like the circle,Its complete.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#44729 Dec 14, 2012
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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I have never been touched by a priest, I'm not religous and I do not attend church. But I am also not a whiney little atheist that is offended by the mere sight of cross or a religous symbol, or a Christian Christmas display, to the point that I would go hire a lawyer and cry about it until it is removed so my whittle sensitive eyes don't have to see something that apparently scare the living sh*t out of me. Poor thing, life must be difficult for such a sensitive ignorant damaged babe as yourself. "Whaaa there's a cross in my eyes, there's a cross in my eyes!!!"
But you are offended by those who feel crosses and other religious symbols are a waste of good space.

Are you offended to know that the mid winter festival –“Christmas display”- was a pagan tradition long before christianity was though of?

The average person has as much right to object to BS as another person has to promote BS.

Churches have hired layers too when they are not able to get their way, hell, they have persecuted, tortured and killed and people in order to get their way

Oh yes and so do priest when their paedophilia comes to light
X Obama Supporter

Coffeyville, KS

#44730 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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But you are offended by those who feel crosses and other religious symbols are a waste of good space.
Are you offended to know that the mid winter festival –“Christmas display”- was a pagan tradition long before christianity was though of?
The average person has as much right to object to BS as another person has to promote BS.
Churches have hired layers too when they are not able to get their way, hell, they have persecuted, tortured and killed and people in order to get their way
Oh yes and so do priest when their paedophilia comes to light
I'm only "offended" by them because they think because something "offends" them or because they don't agree with something then it must just go away. If I'm offended by the sight of something....I just don't look at it. If I'm offended by what someone says...I just don't listen, I walk away so I don't have to hear it.
I don't tell them they must remove whatever it is that offends me or they must stop saying whatever offends me (unless of course they are in my home, then it's my rules).
I don't run around finding empty spaces crying "oh no, that is atheist, it's empty, it stands for and believes in nothing....it has to go, fill the space quick so my eyes are not subjected to this empty space of atheism" WHAAA WHAAAA

You have every right to "object" but you don't have the right to run around crying about crap you don't even have to be subjected to if you didn't seek it out. There is a difference between objecting to something and working to destroy or delete something simply because it offends you. If you don't like a show, don't watch it, others may like it and they have a right to watch it. If you don't like a radio station.....turn the damn knob and change it. Be offended...it's your right...but stop whining about having to see something you don't like, just don't freakin look at it!

Since: Feb 11

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#44731 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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So?
The law requiring Christian worship in UK tax funded schools was amended in 2010.

Such a law of course is banned by our Constitution.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#44732 Dec 14, 2012
My eyesight is rather important to me so I try not to stick anything in my eyes.
I suggest you follow my friendly advice.
X Obama Supporter wrote:
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"Whaaa there's a cross in my eyes, there's a cross in my eyes!!!"
Thinking

Andover, UK

#44733 Dec 14, 2012
The Ghostbusters said not to cross the beams.
top atheist wrote:
<quoted text> As an atheist,Im offended that your even talking about the cross.Its just two beams crossed.Whats the big deal? I like the circle,Its complete.

Since: Feb 11

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#44734 Dec 14, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
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Is that why none of your three short, tiny, non-factual responses actually addressed the Macmillan issue?
No one said you would be able to admit you were wrong, SuperFAG.

Review: Macmillan APPOINTED by Elizabeth, no election, none, WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Since: Feb 11

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#44735 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Several times I have shown you sites of maps and date lines to prove that the UK is east of the UK
The earth is round and revolves around the sun.

Lines on a map.

The sun rises earlier at my house than yours.

Since: Feb 11

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#44736 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
In 2008, eight states had no laws requiring students recite the Pledge of Allegiance at school. That number has recently dwindled to five, with Nebraska being the latest state to adopt a statewide mandate.
Don't care, the pledge of allegiance is of allegiance to the United States, not to God.

Compare it to the pledge every single lawmaker of any consequence makes to the monarch in the UK, who is the head of the state church.

There is no organized pray in US public schools; compare: the UK requires it by law.

Since: Feb 11

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#44737 Dec 14, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
And so what did you do? You came up with the BS that Hawaii receives it sun 14 hours before the UK w
The sun comes up before the sun will come up again where you live, Skanque.

And it isn't my fault you don't know there are more than 24 time zones, I gave you the link.

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