In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#44598 Dec 10, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
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If that were the case then you would not keep running
Call when you learn what a loaded question is.

Best of luck on your ESL classes!

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#44599 Dec 10, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
But, you do, because I know what loaded questions
You don't.

Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
Are there one hundred pennies in a dollar, yes or no?

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#44600 Dec 10, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
If you were arguing that Britain is a monarchy only in title
The United KING_dom is a monarchy.

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THE MONARCHY AND THE CONSTITUTION

By Alistair McConnachie and first published in a Sovereignty Special Report distributed free with the May 2002 issue.

Princess Elizabeth came to the throne on 6 February 1952 following the death of her father, George VI.

Her coronation took place in Westminster Abbey on 2 June 1953.

The British monarchy is the oldest and most fascinating monarchy on earth. It is almost impossible to consider British history without acknowledging the centrality of its monarchy, and it is almost impossible to imagine Britain without a monarchy.

In these articles we examine how the sovereign People, and the sovereign Queen, relate together within the sovereign Community of the Realm.

THE BRITISH CONSTITUTION
There are three areas of government -- the legislature, that is the law-making power, the executive, that is the law-enforcing power, and the judiciary, which determines the law.

For centuries the monarch exercised supreme executive, legislative and judicial power in person.

The struggle between Crown and Parliament in the seventeenth century led in 1688-89 to the establishment of a limited constitutional monarchy.

With the establishment of the Party system by the end of the nineteenth century, the monarch's direct role in politics became minimal.

Today, the two major roles of the Queen are as the Head of State and as a National Icon.

As Head of State the Queen does not owe her position to either patronage or a vote, and can more properly represent all the people in a way in which an elected President cannot.

As a National Icon, with a history stretching back centuries, the Queen is a distinct symbol of national identity. She represents Britain - the nation, its constituent parts, and the people - in a way in which a transitory politician can never do. In this role, she also provides a focused and tangible symbol of the people's sovereignty.

These are important roles, and in both of them she has political power - of a sort - but it is not the sort of power which by itself, could for example, take Britain out the EU.

Under our present system, the legislature is Parliament, namely, the House of Commons and the House of Lords. The executive is the Queen, the Prime Minister and the Cabinet.

There is some connection between the three branches of government. For example, the Cabinet links the legislature with the executive, through its members. The Lord Chancellor, who is a Cabinet member, links the judiciary and the executive, and the Lords of Appeal - "the Law Lords" - sitting in the House of Lords, link the legislature and the judiciary.

"The Crown" is the symbol, and name, of the supreme governing authority. The Queen is the person of the Crown.

The governing functions of the Crown are exercised by ministers responsible to Parliament, in the name of the Queen. Hence the term, "Her Majesty's Government".

Bills go through the House of Commons, and the House of Lords and when they have been passed by both Houses, the Queen gives her "Royal Assent" to them.
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#44601 Dec 10, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
You are directly claiming that our monarchy is our system of government, and thus, you are frankly wrong.
Make sure you continue to post this so when Odoriferous Skanque insists no one here is denying the United KING_dom is a monarchy I shan't have to have her look one page or another in either direction.
dr of humanology

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#44602 Dec 10, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You don't.
Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
Are there one hundred pennies in a dollar, yes or no?
Are you constipated yes or no?

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#44604 Dec 10, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
The manchild's who cannot let go of his loaded question safety blanket.
This SuperFag cannot expand past his knowledge past Year 11.

Enough to fill out the forms to collect the Dole it seems.
Thinking

Andover, UK

#44605 Dec 10, 2012
bsfoot won't know that until he takes his priest's appendage out of his chuffty.

(@ bsfoot)
dr of humanology wrote:
<quoted text> Are you constipated yes or no?

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#44606 Dec 10, 2012
Thinking wrote:
bsfoot won't know
Time for you to come in to change the batteries to your ankle bracklet, Chester. The bobbies won't like it if they have to go to you.

“I started out with nothing”

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and still got most of it left

#44607 Dec 11, 2012
And as I have repeatedly agreed with you the astrophysical facts are not in question
barefoot2626 wrote:
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As I have repeatedly told you that the sun comes up in the east and that in fictional movies, the events portrayed are fictional.
I'm not the one who has difficulty in answering this question: Is the United KING_dom a monarchy, yes or no?
You are the one having difficulty understand the answers. This particular question for example that you repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly and repeatedly ask has been answered in English, French, German, Dutch, binary, ASCII, hexadecimal and octal. I am at a loss as what else I can try and get it through your thick skull
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I continue to correct you.
The prime minister isn't voted in, he is APPOINTED.
By the Queen.
And subjects of the monarch have absolutely no say it it. None.
As I continue to correct you - after being elected by his constituents and elected by his party, the queen gets 3rd pop at the cherry

Such a pity you are incapable of understanding such a basic principle
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Obviously: you are the one who spent time looking at it, eyeball to "eyeball", eh, Skanque? Must be an ever present mental picture...
Donít ya just love JW guesswork and lies born of hatred and jealousy Such a good christian emotion,
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I know you have spent a lot of time on the government paid for couch, and you think that makes you an expert on relationships but you don't have a clue.
And you really don't have enough time to continue to post on stuff you don't have a clue on- why not stick to say ten or a dozen things? e.g., the UK government and history and the English language?
Donít ya just love JW guesswork and lies born of hatred and jealousy Such a good christian emotion

Dearest drippydick, if you find you are having trouble controlling your god given hatred and jealous and having to resort to guesswork and lies than I am perfectly happy to correct your lying cr/\p, live with it.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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You seem to know what 'gonorrhoea' tastes like.
Whatever floats your NotBot boat, shug...
Donít ya just love JW guesswork and lies born of hatred and jealousy Such a good christian emotion.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I'm not the one who pretends the prime minister is elected.
Nope, youíre then one who has no frigging clue how the PM is elected
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Take your meds, Skanque. Over in the UK, the cost for you girls on the dole should not be a factor.
What are you talking about drippydick? The concept of dole ended in the 70ís. It seems that Nymph was right about you all along, you can only understand old and outdated concepts, that you live in the past
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Appointed.
Not know this surely highlights your ignorance of how the MONARCHY of the United KING_dom works.
And you continue to demonstrate you ignorance. A little advice, arguing form the point of deliberate JW ignorance is a looser.

“Live Love Laugh”

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#44608 Dec 11, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Of course, the annoying part of it is he is right and you wrong and unable to deal with it, otherwise you wouldn't be responding every single day.
PS: The island to the west of England... Ireland.
Why are you so full of hatred, Skom? Weren't you supposed to become a new man when you accepted Christ as your savior?

“Live Love Laugh”

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#44609 Dec 11, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Northern Ireland:
http://www.oileain.ie/images/map_english.gif
PS: still west of England.
Great Britain: An island off the western coast of Europe comprising England, Scotland, and Wales. It is separated from the mainland by the English Channel and from Ireland by the Irish Sea.
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Hmmm... no northern Ireland.
I think you must have forgotten your geography lessons. Britain does not equal UK. Try again.

“Live Love Laugh”

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#44610 Dec 11, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Yes?
So what?
Does the sun still rise in the east?
As I recall, I said that Ireland was west of England.
Do you need to look that up?
Is Northern Ireland part of Ireland?
You better check a map, HOney.
Here's one:
http://geology.com/world/ireland-map.gif
You need your diaper changed again, don't you?
dr fill

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#44611 Dec 11, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Time for you to come in to change the batteries to your ankle bracklet, Chester. The bobbies won't like it if they have to go to you.
Your test results have come back from the lab.yes you do indeed have a prostate the size of a grape fruit.Its not from canser its from extreme friction.Ya see ya cant pleasure yourself twenty times a day and not expect something to wear out.I sugest you wear boxing gloves for one month until the grional swelling goes down.Good luck ya freak!!!!

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#44612 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
You are the one having difficulty understand the answers. This particular question for example that you repeatedly
Really?

Why is it that I can respond to the yes or no question: Is the United KING_dom a monarchy? without hesitation or difficulty?

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#44613 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
As I continue to correct you - after being elected by his constituents ...
The prime minister of the United KING_dom is APPOINTED by thew monarch.

You cannot correct a fact that has already been established.

Is the prime minister of the United KING*dom appointed, yes or no?

Was Prime minister Brown APPOINTED, yes or no?

Watch me respond: YES.

One word.

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#44614 Dec 11, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Why are you so full of hatred
Why are you projecting, NymHO? Why do you come all this way just to spew hared, and to make up lies? Your unemployment leave time on your hands?

“I started out with nothing”

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and still got most of it left

#44615 Dec 11, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Really?
Why is it that I can respond to the yes or no question: Is the United KING_dom a monarchy? without hesitation or difficulty?
Why is it that you have once again cherry picked yet ignored the fact that I have repeatedly answered your question (over and over and over and over and over and over again), To the extent that I have answered not only in English but in several; other languages including computer languages My dearest drippydick, I am sick and tired of answering your inane question.

Your dim (actually more than dim) idiotic insistence on repeatedly asking the same question is an indication of insanity, possibly Alzheimerís, whatever the cause you need help, seek it.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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The prime minister of the United KING_dom is APPOINTED by thew monarch.
You cannot correct a fact that has already been established.
Is the prime minister of the United KING*dom appointed, yes or no?
Was Prime minister Brown APPOINTED, yes or no?
Watch me respond: YES.
One word.
No, not one word and I am not interested in your response or your silly imaginings, it is of little use and made my one of limited intellect and no comprehension of the British political system.

Let me repeat AGAIN, a political hopeful is ELECTED by his political party to represent a particular constituency. When a general ELECTION is called that ELECTED individual is VOTED for in a PUBLIC VOTE. If ELECTED it is then possible that he is ELECTED by a VOTE of similarly PUBLICLY ELECTED members of his party to become leader of his party. If that party has gained enough VOTES to lead the house he is then presented to the monarch who may or may not approve his appointment as leader of that party and hence become PM.

I know itís difficult for a person who is hard of understanding such as you to comprehend but thatís just tough

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#44616 Dec 11, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>I think you must have forgotten your geography lessons. Britain does not equal UK. Try again.
I'm not the one who confuses 'Britain' with the UK, nympHO, or uses it synonymously.

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#44617 Dec 11, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Why is it that you have once again cherry picked yet ignored the fact that I have repeatedly answered your question
Follow the thread, Skanque.

I'm not the one who insists the United Kingdom is NOT a monarchy.

I'm not the one who thinks all yes or no questions are loaded questions.

PS: I have always know the answer to this question: Yes or no, is the United King_dom a monarchy. I haven't budged a fraction of an inch.

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#44618 Dec 11, 2012
[QUOTE who="ChristineM"
No, not one word and I am not interested in your response or your silly imaginings, it is of little use and made my one of limited intellect and no comprehension of the British political system.
[/QUOTE]

You mean the way I insist the prime minister of the United KING_dom is appointed by the monarch because in actual fact the prime minister of the United KING_dom is appointed by the monarch?

Yes or no?

Because I would like to make sure you understand I am the one who is saying the prime minister of the United KING_dom is appointed by the monarch.

And you are saying I don't understand the 'system'.

Yes or no, prime minister of the United KING_dom is appointed by the monarch?

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