In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#44394 Dec 5, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Is Ireland west of England, yes or no?- As is Wales
As I said: Ireland is to the west of England.

In answer to the question: Is Ireland to the west of England, yes or no? the correct response could be one word, yes. It contains no no assumptions, and the respondent who answers the question directly admits to accepting that assumption.

The question: Is Ireland to the west of England, yes or no? therefore is not a loaded question.

Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?

HMMMMMMMMMM.

It contains no assumptions, and the respondent who answers the question directly does not have to assume that assumption, and there is no consequence in responding outside of looking like an idiot if he or she is wrong.

Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no? Is it a loaded question?

It is not.

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#44395 Dec 5, 2012
Thinking wrote:
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None of us can prove that.
The round dot on your house and your ankle bracelet does that for us, Chester.

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#44396 Dec 5, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
What p|sses people off, particularly the other members of that team is when one section of that team lies by claiming they did it on their own.
You mean like all your anti-USA tirades, you denying the vital help the UK got from the USA in two world wars?

Why don't you show everyone where an American said they did it on their own.

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#44397 Dec 5, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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As I said: Ireland is to the west of England.
In answer to the question: Is Ireland to the west of England, yes or no? the correct response could be one word, yes. It contains no no assumptions, and the respondent who answers the question directly admits to accepting that assumption.
The question: Is Ireland to the west of England, yes or no? therefore is not a loaded question.
Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?
HMMMMMMMMMM.
It contains no assumptions, and the respondent who answers the question directly does not have to assume that assumption, and there is no consequence in responding outside of looking like an idiot if he or she is wrong.
Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no? Is it a loaded question?
It is not.
You don't know jack sh*t about what it means to be British, there's a f*cking loaded statement for you, you piss poor excuse for an armchair politician.

Nobody here give a flaying f*ck about your opinion here you sad old man. Least of all atheists.

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#44398 Dec 5, 2012
Go Girl wrote:
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Shut up fool. It's retarded ck skrs like you who give the real Americans a bad reputation.
Anything you say, Honeybooboo.

Gosh... Packy... it looks like some of your relatives have settled over here...

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#44399 Dec 5, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
So you are saying that the Electoral College is a lie? That it does not exist?
One of our many differences, Skanque: I don't have to make up things you do not say to prove my point (which I have to do a few dozen times before you run away without confessing that I was right all along).

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#44400 Dec 5, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Or are you saying that the electoral college does not appoint proposed president and vice presidnet?
A short blurb, do see the word "elected" featured prominently... not appointed.

How Does The Electoral College Work?
Kathy Gill

Although we cast a ballot for a presidential nominee on election day (the first Tuesday in November), in reality we are selecting "electors" -- those people who will cast the deciding ballot. The electoral college is a non-direct election artifact created by the Founding Fathers, most of whom distrusted direct democracy. Electoral votes are based on congressional representation -- the sum of senators and representatives. The total is 538, and 270 votes are needed to be elected.

Each state has electors equal to the number of its Senators and Representatives in the U.S. Congress. In addition, per the Twenty-third Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the District of Columbia has been granted electors as though it were a state. Even though the political parties hold primary elections in U.S. territories, U.S. territories are not represented in the Electoral College.

Forty-eight states and the District of Columbia have adopted a winner-take-all popular vote system: the candidate who wins the most votes in the state wins the support of all of that state’s electors.

In two states, Maine (4 electors) and Nebraska (5 electors), a single elector is allocated within each Congressional district and two electors are chosen by statewide popular vote. Maine initiated this practice in 1972; Nebraska, 1992. The 2008 election was the first where either state split its electoral votes. Nebraska allocated one electoral vote to Barack Obama and four to John McCain.

Casting The Electoral Votes
Electors meet in their respective state capitals on the Monday after the second Wednesday in December to cast their electoral votes on separate ballots for President and Vice President. In 2008, that meeting will be held December 15.

Each elector casts one vote for President and one vote for Vice President. Electors are technically free to vote for anyone eligible to be President, but in practice an elector pledges to vote for a specific candidate.

Five copies of the state's Certificate of Vote are completed and signed by each Elector. One copy is sent to President of the U.S. Senate (the sitting Vice President of the United States) by certified mail.

The Twelfth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution mandates that the Congress assemble in joint session to count the electoral votes and declare the winners (president and vice president) of the election. Subsequent federal law sets the date for this joint session of Congress: the sixth day of January in the calendar year immediately following the meetings of the presidential electors.

The meeting is held at 1:00 p.m. EST in U.S. House of Representatives, and each chamber appoints two tellers to count the vote. If there are no objections, the presiding officer declares the result of the vote. To be valid, an objection must be lodged by both a Senator and a Representative.

In order to be elected, a candidate must have a majority (since 1964, at least 270) of the electoral votes. Should no candidate for President win a majority of the electoral votes, the decision is referred to the U.S. House of Representatives. Should no candidate for Vice President possess a majority of the electoral votes, the decision is referred to the U.S. Senate.

Should there be an electoral vote tie (such as 269-to-269) or no candidate receives a majority of the electoral votes (such as 268-267-3), then the U.S. House of Representatives must go into session immediately to select the President. The U.S. Constitution limits the House to selecting from the top three Presidential candidates. Each state delegation has only one vote and the District of Columbia does not have a vote. A candidate must receive an absolute majority of the votes (26) to become the President-elect.

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#44401 Dec 5, 2012
Hmmm...''votes' and 'ballots' and 'electors' and 'counts' and 'counting' and 'election' and 'elected...

Did you know over in the UK, the prime minster is appointed by the monarch?

The UK is a monarchy, ya know...

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#44402 Dec 5, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
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You don't know jack sh*t about what it means to be British
I think I know what it must be like- short of like when you forget to wipe your shoes before you come into the house and you sit down at the computer and start smelling poo...

...but I have never pretended to be British, Septic, I don't have to be British to know that the United KINGdom is a monarchy, or eat bad food and pretend it's tasty, or to model for "This is what will happen to you if you don't brush your teeth" dentist magazines or pretend cricket is a sport.

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#44403 Dec 5, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
Nobody here give a flaying f*ck about your opinion here you sad old man. Least of all atheists.
Yet you seem to flay, eh, Septic.

Imagine what would have happened if the NotBots here had just acknowledged the fact that the UK is a monarchy and saved the forum five thousand posts.

I may be able to go for that leather seat on the garden tractor...

“Live Love Laugh”

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#44404 Dec 5, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Still part of Ireland.
Been part of Ireland for a few million years.
And is not part of Britain.
No matter how hard you stomp your feet.
And no matter how hard you stomp your feet, only Northern Ireland is under the monarchy. You're just as crazy and obsessed under this name as you are under the other name under which you outright call me a prostitute because that's the only way you can feel superior.

Look at the shit*y behavior here and on other threads (no matter what name you're using). You have nothing but an obsession to be right about everything. You're mentally deficient. You're not stupid, just mentally deficient in some very basic way that makes a human being act like a human being.

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#44405 Dec 5, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>And no matter how hard you stomp your feet, only Northern Ireland is under the monarchy.
Northern Ireland is "under" a monarchy, make sure you remind your fellow NotBots, I'm not the one who is confused, and let me know when you can find a map and tell us if Northern Ireland is part of Ireland... which is- check the map- an island to the west of England.

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#44406 Dec 5, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
You're just as crazy and obsessed under this name as you are under the other name under which you outright call me a prostitute because that's the only way you can feel superior.
I don't know what you think that this is supposed to mean, I am not judging you for how you make your income, and between the two of us- as you know- I am the only one who can say I have only posted under one name since I began posting on Topix, quite literally, I have posted under this and only this handle and don't post under my alternate personalty (ies) and pretend they don't count.

HOney.

But I am from the don't dish it out if you can't take it club, and if you want to try to lecture anyone you might want to start up yet another alias and come to us with "clean hands".
SupaAFC

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#44407 Dec 5, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I have already responded to the question I asked of you, SuperFag:
Is the UK a monarchy, yes or no?
I have already established you don't know what a loaded question is.
If that were the case then you would not keep running away from explaining how your question is not loaded. But, it is, and we know why.

If you had any kind of argument then you would not desperately cling to the surface. You would not keep relying on a loaded question.

But, you do, and we know why.

Stomp stomp stomp, little Barefoot.
SupaAFC

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#44408 Dec 5, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text> You're not stupid, just mentally deficient in some very basic way that makes a human being act like a human being.
You mean act like a manchild. Barefoot has got to be the most socially inept person I have seen on this forum; even creationists, adamant that their literal beliefs are real, are not as childish or hated as this guy.

So much hate, so little else.

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#44409 Dec 5, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
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If that were the case then you would not keep running away
Running away is a British trait.

Let me know when you pass the "what is a loaded question" test.

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#44410 Dec 5, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
But, it is, and we know why.
It is rather unfortunate that you waste so much time trying to insist that yes or no questions are loaded questions, SuperFag.

Are there one hundred pennies in a dollar, yes or no?

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#44411 Dec 5, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
So much hate, so little else.
Poor SuperFag: slapped around, nothing left but what he can project.

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#44412 Dec 5, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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No need to lie?
You helped, there is a major difference between doing it all by yourself and doing it in a team
What p|sses people off, particularly the other members of that team is when one section of that team lies by claiming they did it on their own.
Not only does it p|ss off the other people who were involved or whose relatives lost lives by being involved it does fookall to enhance the credibility of the US
Some of you seem to make a job to discount all of Americas efforts to do anything and disregard all efforts achieved at great personal loss to the selfless acts of Americas citizens.
They also try to downplay Americas role defending the freedom of of the free world at large.

This is just as unacceptable as those who would discount the valiant efforts by those in each situation at hand.

The world fights for freedom , but never say liberty was not the cause of the Americans who died in foreign lands with great loss to self and for gain to someone else.

Even as I type this , Americans do die with no personal agenda other than for others to be free. This is what happens to those who serve this country in foreign lands , because they believe
in our right that all men be able ...like us to choose.

I will never DIS the Englishmen who fight along side us in this endeavor. The English, Irish , Scottish are men who follow the same banner of the glorious fighters in NATO who defend the western worlds way of life.

And for those who believe in these ideals with knightly honor and chivalrous as they be I salute them and they have my support in arms as well as my life if needed to defend the world I know.

America is the Ace of the Swords.



This man would honor this and so would I.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-erhabIciSzg/T4WhCmd...

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

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#44413 Dec 5, 2012
Mikko wrote:
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what is that fat food and war ?
Nope...new ideas.

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