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#43263 Nov 19, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Hey don't just take it from me it is the consensus of all inventors because they have a fully operational and functioning airplane first.
"The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright. On December 17, 1903, the Wright brothers made the first successful experiment in which a machine (aka airplane) carrying a man rose by its own power, flew naturally and at even speed, and descended without damage."
http://inventors.about.com/od/fstartinvention...
In the two years afterward, the brothers developed their flying machine into the first practical fixed-wing aircraft. Although not the first to build and fly experimental aircraft, the Wright brothers were the first to invent aircraft controls that made fixed-wing powered flight possible.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers
Many people worked on various kinds of gliders and other planes over the years, so no one person invented the airplane. The Wright Brothers of Dayton, Ohio, are generally recognized as making the first powered aircraft flight (but see below).
On December 17, 1903, the Wright Brothers launched the first successful air flight at Kitty Hawk, NC, flying over the location four times. Orville flew the first flight, Wilbur having encountered difficulties in his own attempt on December 14.
On May 22, 1906, the brothers received a patent for their design of the
"first airplane",
or "Flying Machine." The flight and plane changed the ideas of transportation around the world, even though their prototype only flew for a few seconds. Worldwide, inventors began building many different types of powered aircraft.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_invented_the_ai...
They also did something all the other first inventors could not
do , made more than one flight in the same day, improved it
and made many more flight with the same machine.
Improved it with two more models and in 6 years did another first.
Produced the worlds first military plane.
http://airandspace.si.edu/events/eventDetail....
Again I ask you to look up the definition of the word INVENTED.

US media hype, what some bod wrote on about and the US need for ego manipulation is irrelevant to history of aircraft development. I am not arguing that the Wright brothers did not invent particular aspects that made the aeroplane more stable (although this is debatable – see * below) nor am I arguing that they were not the first to succeed in documented manned, powered and controlled flight. I am arguing that they did not INVENT the aeroplane, that’s all, nothing more, nothing less and I have given links to evidence that backs up my contention.

Your own link to wikipedia explains it very succinctly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers
“Although not the first to build and fly experimental aircraft, the Wright brothers were the first to invent aircraft controls that made fixed-wing powered flight possible.”

Thanks for posting that.

The Wright Brothers invented part not the whole. Their patent was for their method of flight control (not invention of the aircraft) and their licence fee greed and determination to poo poo anyone else from developing such methods suppressed development of the U.S. aviation industry for years until the US government had to step in to resolve the contention.

Whether you accept that the basic aeroplane design was invented and being flown with varying degrees of success for up to 60 years prior to the Wright brothers taking that first documented manned, powered and controlled flight is up to your nationalistic need for firsts.

* Matthew Piers Watt Boulton’s patent for similar avionics superseded the Wright brother’s patent by 38 years

“I started out with nothing”

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#43264 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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best of luck with dat...
you don't think she is going say she was wrong, now, are ya?
No need, not when I am correct, look up the meaning of the word INVENTED

While you are at it look up the Wright Brothers patent (thanks Aura, for pointing that out)

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#43265 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Who cares if it was a toy? Is was a toy AEROPLANE
Sun rises in the east, Wright Brothers invented the airplane.

Skanque.

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#43266 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Is that all you have – LIES?
OK, benefit of the doubt, show me where I say the British invented “football”
No need for you to insist they did, then.

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#43267 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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May I suggest you buy a model aeroplanel
Sun rises in the east.

Wright Brothers invented the airplane.

The UK is a monarchy.

The Americans captured the U505.

You never voted for the position of prime minister.

Things in a fictional movie are fictional.

Anything else, Chubby?

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#43268 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Again I ask you to look up the definition of the word INVENTED.
Sun rises in the east.

Look up the word MONARCHY, Chubby.

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#43269 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Problems with your dentures again?
I can only imagine you think that is clever... Chubby...

“I started out with nothing”

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#43270 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sun rises in the east, Wright Brothers invented the airplane.
Skanque.
Look up the definition of the name Aeroplane

Their patent says noting about inventing the aeroplane.

The aeroplane existed prior to the Wright brothers

Methinks you syphilis is effecting your thinking

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#43271 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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No need for you to insist they did, then.
Rather like your LIRS that I made claims about the U505 that you have NEVER been able to prove this latest round of lies is just as pathetic, I have never insisted they did and it seems that you are unable to provide evidence for you lies.

If all you have is lies then you are beaten, live with it.

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#43272 Nov 19, 2012
Opps LIRS - LIES

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#43273 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Look up the definition of the name Aeroplane.
~stomp stomp stomp~

Sun = east.
Wright Brothers = airplane.
UK = monarchy.
You = fat.

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#43274 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Again I ask you to look up the definition of the word INVENTED..
"The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright."

“I started out with nothing”

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#43275 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sun rises in the east.
Wright Brothers invented the airplane.
The UK is a monarchy.
The Americans captured the U505.
You never voted for the position of prime minister.
Things in a fictional movie are fictional.
Anything else, Chubby?
Love your signature,“Chubby”, good that you recognise your obesity.

There you go again quoting geography without a clue as to the consequences.

Wrong, the invented some avionics, major difference.

True

True

True

True

No argument with any of your last 4 points so I have no idea what else you want to rant about, fatso, the choice is yours

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#43276 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Rather like your LIRS that I made claims about the U505
Follow the thread, Chubby.

Packy said the U505 was captured by the British.

You insisted that I was confused by a fictional film that you seemed to think was a documentary and that everyone else in the world were as confused as you.

Remember: it started with me insisting that the UK is a monarchy.

“I started out with nothing”

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#43277 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sun rises in the east.
Look up the word MONARCHY, Chubby.
My dearest chubby, you will find no argument about the FACT that the UK is a monarchy, It really doesn’t matter how hard you stamp your feet, there is no argument to be had so all you are doing is making yourself look petty and even more foolish

“I started out with nothing”

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#43278 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I can only imagine you think that is clever... Chubby...
Nope it’s not clever that you have problems with you dentures. I suggest you go back and complain to your dentist

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#43279 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Wright Brothers invented the airplane, Chubby.

No matter how hard you stomp your feet.

Model airplanes are not airplanes.

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#43280 Nov 19, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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My dearest chubby, you will find no argument about the FACT that the UK is a monarchy,
What do you want to bet, Chubby?

“I started out with nothing”

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#43281 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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~stomp stomp stomp~
Sun = east.
Wright Brothers = airplane.
UK = monarchy.
You = fat.
Wrong, the sun is a great ball of burning gas, east is a compass direction
Wrong, they were human beings who built an aeroplane
Yes,- whoohay, you have something right
Ahh well back to wrong again. You = obese

“I started out with nothing”

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#43282 Nov 19, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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"The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright."
Wrong

Look up the word INVENTED

As highlighted by Aura, take a look at the patent wording for their patent.

We know that people can’t be right all the time and in you case you can’t be right most of the time.

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