In America, atheists are still in the closet

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#43147 Nov 15, 2012
Mikko wrote:
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wrong the nazis ran away from the red army
The Red Army ran away from the Germans just as the Brits. The Red Army drew the line at Stalingrad.

In this universe in this time dimension.

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#43148 Nov 15, 2012
Mikko wrote:
USA = falsifiers of history
Swedes = bankers of Nazi gold stolen from Jewish teeth

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#43149 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Are you stupid, Look it up, oh never mind, I’ll do it for you because I know you are too obese and lazy to do it yourself
First working powered aeroplane invented and patented in 1842
Toy.

Let me know if you can figure out a way to deny the first real man powered airplane flight was by the Wright Brothers.

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#43150 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
http://www.chardmuseum.co.uk/Powered_Flight/
In 1871 Alphonse Pénaud successfully flew a model aircraft powered by twisted rubber in Paris
toy.

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#43151 Nov 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, actually, it's because of the predatory nature of US corporations. They'll patent anything they can, often before it's even dreamed up, then enforce those patents with force if needed.
This is true of now and probably at least partially true of earlier times

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#43152 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
The first manned powered flight was by a twenty-five year old New Zealander, Richard Pearse on March 31, 1902.
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...
Complete dung.

"Of prophetic design, it closely resembled a modern microlight aircraft in appearance. After considerable taxiing on his farm paddocks Pearse made his first public flight attempt down Main Waitohi Road adjacent to his farm. After a short distance aloft, perhaps 50 yards, he crashed on top of his own gorse fence. No details were recorded, by Pearse or onlookers, of this tentative flight. In two letters, published in 1915 and 1928, the inventor writes of February or March 1904 as the time when he set out to solve the problem of aerial navigation. He also states that he did not achieve proper flight and did not beat the American brothers Orville and Wilbur Wright who flew on 17 December 1903. However, a great deal of eyewitness testimony, able to be dated circumstantially, suggests that 31 March 1903 was the likely date of this first flight attempt.(The year 1902 also has its advocates.) Pearse continued his flying experiments, achieving several further powered take-offs or long hops, most of them witnessed. None of them, in terms of length or control, was a true flight by any strict definition. In July 1906 he patented his aircraft."

So he flew and forgot to mention it to anyone... until 12 years later... when he was pretty sure the best he recalled it was before the Wright Brothers.

Cough.

Silly Wright Brothers had witness and were selling airplanes for ten years.

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#43153 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Toy.
Let me know if you can figure out a way to deny the first real man powered airplane flight was by the Wright Brothers.
That was not your original stance which stated

“The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright”

Notice the word inventors?

but seeing as how you have now realised your misstate (again) moved the goalposts (again) may I suggest you try
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...

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#43154 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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toy.
Model/toy or not it was before the Wright brothers, live with it

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#43155 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
You made a statement and I proved you wrong, it happens all the time, live with it
Which statement that I have made that you "proved" wrong, Skanque?

That the first powered manned flight was by the Wright Brothers?

That the UK is a monarchy?

That the US captured the U505?

or twenty more that you stomp you feet and insist that I am wrong... excepting that I have the facts?

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#43156 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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That was not your original stance which stated
“The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright”
Notice the word inventors?
DeVinci had drawings of aeroplanes.

Google "who invented the airplane".

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#43157 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Model/toy or not it was before the Wright brothers, live with it
It wasn't an airplane, Skanque.

No one here is waiting for you to say you were wrong.

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#43158 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Complete dung.
"Of prophetic design, it closely resembled a modern microlight aircraft in appearance. After considerable taxiing on his farm paddocks Pearse made his first public flight attempt down Main Waitohi Road adjacent to his farm. After a short distance aloft, perhaps 50 yards, he crashed on top of his own gorse fence. No details were recorded, by Pearse or onlookers, of this tentative flight. In two letters, published in 1915 and 1928, the inventor writes of February or March 1904 as the time when he set out to solve the problem of aerial navigation. He also states that he did not achieve proper flight and did not beat the American brothers Orville and Wilbur Wright who flew on 17 December 1903. However, a great deal of eyewitness testimony, able to be dated circumstantially, suggests that 31 March 1903 was the likely date of this first flight attempt.(The year 1902 also has its advocates.) Pearse continued his flying experiments, achieving several further powered take-offs or long hops, most of them witnessed. None of them, in terms of length or control, was a true flight by any strict definition. In July 1906 he patented his aircraft."
So he flew and forgot to mention it to anyone... until 12 years later... when he was pretty sure the best he recalled it was before the Wright Brothers.
Cough.
Silly Wright Brothers had witness and were selling airplanes for ten years.
Your syphilis playing up again?

That’s the story, live with it

All it does is reinforce previous powered flights that has been happening for more than 50 years thus placing the “INVENTION” of the powered aeroplane more than 50 years before that claimed by your post

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#43159 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Which statement that I have made that you "proved" wrong, Skanque?
That the first powered manned flight was by the Wright Brothers?
That the UK is a monarchy?
That the US captured the U505?
or twenty more that you stomp you feet and insist that I am wrong... excepting that I have the facts?
How about “The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright” statement, you soon seem to have moved the goalposts on that one

The fact that you claim I stated the U505 was not captured by the US

That the US b(w)ankers greed caused the 2007 world wide financial meltdown

That you don’t get to vote for who is president

That half US children have to acknowledge god each schoolday

That the UK fleet was the biggest fleet in the world in 1939.

Etc, etc

You have the personal claims and wet dreams, I don’t actually remember a time when you have provided facts.

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#43161 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Notice the word inventors?

"Pearse himself never made such claims, and in an interview he gave to the Timaru Post in 1909 only claimed he did not "attempt anything practical...until 1904".

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#43162 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
the goalposts (again) may I suggest you try
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...
Um.. sure.

Here's a report of aliens attacking the Earth this month:

http://weeklyworldnews.com/aliens/26535/alien...

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#43163 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Your syphilis playing up again?
Too late for you, eh, Skanque?

Maybe those anal probes weren't from Martians as you insisted?

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#43164 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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How about “The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright” statement, you soon seem to have moved the goalposts on that one
Moved goalposts?

That the first manned flight was by Pearse?

Skanque, I want you to post that claim if front of all your other claims.

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#43165 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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DeVinci had drawings of aeroplanes.
Google "who invented the airplane".
Screw "who invented the airplane". It’s full of US hype unless you search deeper than page one

Google “history of the aeroplane” then at least half the entries tell you the facts without the BS nationalist BS.

Tell me how are inventions recorded? Is it with drawings?

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#43166 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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It wasn't an airplane, Skanque.
No one here is waiting for you to say you were wrong.
Yes it was, you don’t get to decide, history decides

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#43167 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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"Pearse himself never made such claims, and in an interview he gave to the Timaru Post in 1909 only claimed he did not "attempt anything practical...until 1904".
So.. Other sources say otherwise

Got you looking though and made you move the goalposts

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