In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#43141 Nov 15, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The Wright Brothers used powered flight in 1903 at Kitty Hawk. Becoming the inventors of the first airplane.
Wrong. The Wrght brothers claim to be first to fly in a powered aeroplane, a myth that US historians like to keep alive. They certainly did not invent the aeroplane

The history of powered flight goes back to William Henson and John Stringfellow more than 50 years before Kitty Hawk

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Samuel_H...
http://www.chardmuseum.co.uk/Powered_Flight/

Then French successful experiments including

http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/578...

And not particularly successful but never the less manned powered flight some 9 month before the Wright brothers “made history”
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...

All before the Wright brothers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_aviat...
Is more concise.

You can of course go back even further if you want to consider unpowered flight, http://firstflight.open.ac.uk/cayley/cayley.h...

Or perhaps to

Leonardo da Vinci whose detailed designs for mechanical flight still exist today

Or

Abbas Ibn Firnas in the 9th century

or

Or even back to 400 BC China with the first know kite.

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#43143 Nov 15, 2012
Religoous freaks have went nuts. I have a Darwin Fish bumper sticker on my truck. SOME RELIGOUS NAZI IN MAGIC MARKER WROTE ON TAILGATE OF TRUCK ASS SORTS OF VILE NASTY THINGS....

Oh tehr eligous nazi GOP slime. GOT TO FEEL SORRY FOR THEM..........NOT!!!!!!!

“I Am No One Else”

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#43144 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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So, America is good taking the ideas of others and running with them
For example take
The light bulb as well as the electric chair. the movie camera, the power generator, x-ray photographs (fluoroscope), the storage battery, the record player , wax paper, the telegraph are all Edison patents that Edison did not invent
However let’s consider the things that the US did invent
Fast food, something close to your heart and your obesity
Pornography, the only way you can get you kicks
Obesity, see fast food above
American accents, nuf said…
Hand cuffs, well deserved
Etc, etc
Not forgetting your own Thomas Midgely Jr who’s inventions are single handily responsible for more deaths in this world than any other single person… EVER. It’s good to know that he died by entanglement and strangulation by one of his own inventions, really could not have happened to a more deserving inventor.
Well, actually, it's because of the predatory nature of US corporations. They'll patent anything they can, often before it's even dreamed up, then enforce those patents with force if needed.

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#43145 Nov 15, 2012
straa wrote:
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Really, o don't think so, America
You really didn't think America sank the U505 even after proof was posted, Packy.

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#43146 Nov 15, 2012
straa wrote:
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We've allready proved you wrong several times
Rolling around stomping your feet crying isn't really proof, Packy, you seem to think proof is making admit you are wrong.

I only have to prove you look stupid.

Monarchy, yes or no, Packy?

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#43147 Nov 15, 2012
Mikko wrote:
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wrong the nazis ran away from the red army
The Red Army ran away from the Germans just as the Brits. The Red Army drew the line at Stalingrad.

In this universe in this time dimension.

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#43148 Nov 15, 2012
Mikko wrote:
USA = falsifiers of history
Swedes = bankers of Nazi gold stolen from Jewish teeth

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#43149 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Are you stupid, Look it up, oh never mind, I’ll do it for you because I know you are too obese and lazy to do it yourself
First working powered aeroplane invented and patented in 1842
Toy.

Let me know if you can figure out a way to deny the first real man powered airplane flight was by the Wright Brothers.

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#43150 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
http://www.chardmuseum.co.uk/Powered_Flight/
In 1871 Alphonse Pénaud successfully flew a model aircraft powered by twisted rubber in Paris
toy.

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#43151 Nov 15, 2012
KittenKoder wrote:
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Well, actually, it's because of the predatory nature of US corporations. They'll patent anything they can, often before it's even dreamed up, then enforce those patents with force if needed.
This is true of now and probably at least partially true of earlier times

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#43152 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
The first manned powered flight was by a twenty-five year old New Zealander, Richard Pearse on March 31, 1902.
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...
Complete dung.

"Of prophetic design, it closely resembled a modern microlight aircraft in appearance. After considerable taxiing on his farm paddocks Pearse made his first public flight attempt down Main Waitohi Road adjacent to his farm. After a short distance aloft, perhaps 50 yards, he crashed on top of his own gorse fence. No details were recorded, by Pearse or onlookers, of this tentative flight. In two letters, published in 1915 and 1928, the inventor writes of February or March 1904 as the time when he set out to solve the problem of aerial navigation. He also states that he did not achieve proper flight and did not beat the American brothers Orville and Wilbur Wright who flew on 17 December 1903. However, a great deal of eyewitness testimony, able to be dated circumstantially, suggests that 31 March 1903 was the likely date of this first flight attempt.(The year 1902 also has its advocates.) Pearse continued his flying experiments, achieving several further powered take-offs or long hops, most of them witnessed. None of them, in terms of length or control, was a true flight by any strict definition. In July 1906 he patented his aircraft."

So he flew and forgot to mention it to anyone... until 12 years later... when he was pretty sure the best he recalled it was before the Wright Brothers.

Cough.

Silly Wright Brothers had witness and were selling airplanes for ten years.

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#43153 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Toy.
Let me know if you can figure out a way to deny the first real man powered airplane flight was by the Wright Brothers.
That was not your original stance which stated

“The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright”

Notice the word inventors?

but seeing as how you have now realised your misstate (again) moved the goalposts (again) may I suggest you try
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#43154 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
toy.
Model/toy or not it was before the Wright brothers, live with it

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#43155 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
You made a statement and I proved you wrong, it happens all the time, live with it
Which statement that I have made that you "proved" wrong, Skanque?

That the first powered manned flight was by the Wright Brothers?

That the UK is a monarchy?

That the US captured the U505?

or twenty more that you stomp you feet and insist that I am wrong... excepting that I have the facts?

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#43156 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
That was not your original stance which stated
“The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright”
Notice the word inventors?
DeVinci had drawings of aeroplanes.

Google "who invented the airplane".

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#43157 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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Model/toy or not it was before the Wright brothers, live with it
It wasn't an airplane, Skanque.

No one here is waiting for you to say you were wrong.

“When you treat people as they ”

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treat you they get offended.

#43158 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Complete dung.
"Of prophetic design, it closely resembled a modern microlight aircraft in appearance. After considerable taxiing on his farm paddocks Pearse made his first public flight attempt down Main Waitohi Road adjacent to his farm. After a short distance aloft, perhaps 50 yards, he crashed on top of his own gorse fence. No details were recorded, by Pearse or onlookers, of this tentative flight. In two letters, published in 1915 and 1928, the inventor writes of February or March 1904 as the time when he set out to solve the problem of aerial navigation. He also states that he did not achieve proper flight and did not beat the American brothers Orville and Wilbur Wright who flew on 17 December 1903. However, a great deal of eyewitness testimony, able to be dated circumstantially, suggests that 31 March 1903 was the likely date of this first flight attempt.(The year 1902 also has its advocates.) Pearse continued his flying experiments, achieving several further powered take-offs or long hops, most of them witnessed. None of them, in terms of length or control, was a true flight by any strict definition. In July 1906 he patented his aircraft."
So he flew and forgot to mention it to anyone... until 12 years later... when he was pretty sure the best he recalled it was before the Wright Brothers.
Cough.
Silly Wright Brothers had witness and were selling airplanes for ten years.
Your syphilis playing up again?

That’s the story, live with it

All it does is reinforce previous powered flights that has been happening for more than 50 years thus placing the “INVENTION” of the powered aeroplane more than 50 years before that claimed by your post

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#43159 Nov 15, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Which statement that I have made that you "proved" wrong, Skanque?
That the first powered manned flight was by the Wright Brothers?
That the UK is a monarchy?
That the US captured the U505?
or twenty more that you stomp you feet and insist that I am wrong... excepting that I have the facts?
How about “The inventors of the first airplane were Orville and Wilbur Wright” statement, you soon seem to have moved the goalposts on that one

The fact that you claim I stated the U505 was not captured by the US

That the US b(w)ankers greed caused the 2007 world wide financial meltdown

That you don’t get to vote for who is president

That half US children have to acknowledge god each schoolday

That the UK fleet was the biggest fleet in the world in 1939.

Etc, etc

You have the personal claims and wet dreams, I don’t actually remember a time when you have provided facts.

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#43161 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Notice the word inventors?

"Pearse himself never made such claims, and in an interview he gave to the Timaru Post in 1909 only claimed he did not "attempt anything practical...until 1904".

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#43162 Nov 15, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
the goalposts (again) may I suggest you try
http://www.ctie.monash.edu.au/hargrave/pearse...
Um.. sure.

Here's a report of aliens attacking the Earth this month:

http://weeklyworldnews.com/aliens/26535/alien...

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