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In America, atheists are still in the closet

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wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40307 Oct 13, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Even Palin laughs at birthers.
But then...'your' an idiot.
When The Truth Finally Comes Out....I Personally Am Going To Bitch Slap Every Idiot Who Voted For The Muslim.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40308 Oct 13, 2012
According to CNN, the Vice Presidential debate goes to Republican, Paul Ryan by a margin of 48% to 44%. This brings Republicans to two consecutive wins based off the CNN polling data. Even though Vice President Joe Biden had been pulled off the campaign trail to prepare for this debate, it seems that did little to secure a victory for Democrats.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40309 Oct 13, 2012
According to the CNN poll of independents, Paul Ryan won the debate, 48% to 44%. The same poll showed that people who watched the debate believed that Paul Ryan expressed himself better than Joe Biden, 50%-41%. An NBC poll of 435 uncommitted voters after the debate showed Paul Ryan winning with 63% to 31%. CNBC had it 56% to 36%, again with Paul Ryan coming out on top. Even the Danville Advocate Messenger had Paul Ryan on top at the end of the day, attracting 56% to Biden's 41%.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40310 Oct 13, 2012
CBS and MSNBC Journalists: Biden’s Libya Security Answer Could Mean Big Trouble for Obama
Posted on October 12, 2012 at 8:43am by Jonathon M. Seidl

As the dust of Thursday’s vice presidential debate settles, one of the storylines of Friday morning is Joe Biden’s bold statement that the administration was not told that officials in Libya requested more security before an attack that led to the death of several Americans, including our ambassador. The fact-checkers have found that to be patently false. And now, even the mainstream media is predicting it could be a problem.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40311 Oct 13, 2012
Why Was The Ambassador In Bengazzi ?

Why Didnt He Have A Marine Escort ?

This Is Worse The Watergate....This Man Was Sacrificed To Find The Cache Of Weapons Obama Gave To The Terrorists.

Biden Laughs At The Deaths And Says " We Didnt Know "....When The State Dept Says, " They Asked For Help "

I Want Hangings To Return....Treason Is Not Acceptable

Since: Feb 11

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#40312 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>
When The Truth Finally Comes Out....I Personally Am Going To Bitch Slap Every Idiot Who Voted For The Muslim.
The only thing you slap is your very tiny pickle, boy.

You have a big mouth and you stretch it around sausages.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40313 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Why Was The Ambassador In Bengazzi ?
It is almost as though he didn't ask your permission to go, how bout that puss?

You didn't know where Benghazi was three weeks ago and you still don't know how to spell it but you are an expert, eh?

Using your crystal ball, you could have dropped in three dozen Navy Seals from the helicopters that you apparently have circling all two hundred US embassy and consulate compounds!

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40314 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
According to the CNN poll of independents, Paul Ryan won the debate
And according to the CBS poll and the Reuter's poll, Biden won.

Holy smokes! it is almost as though the results were positively mixed!

Which was the exact word CNN used... in describing its findings: that they were mixed. And of course, if you read the poll- more than the first paragraph- you would have discovered the CNN poll was conducted among voters who had already committed (and some even already voted) to a candidate.

Here's a thought, puss: the polls about the debates that do not in the end matter themselves do not matter.

Maybe if you learned to read, you would have picked up on the fact the debate changed no voter's mind.

(quote)
Reuters)- Vice President Joe Biden came out on top of Thursday night's vice presidential debate with Republican challenger Paul Ryan, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

The energetic Biden claimed a seven-point victory - 42 percent to 35 percent - among registered voters, with a similar margin among independents. Nearly a quarter of registered voters and about a third of independents were unsure who did a better job during the debate at Centre College in Danville, Kentucky ( http://bit.ly/Q7KOte ).

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#40315 Oct 13, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
SweetGums: the banks that fail were taken over by other banks, sometimes, literally, banks down the street.
There are over 7,000 banks in the USA and there are more savings and loans. Sometimes: they fail. They fail not because they aren't making a profit, they fail because they do not meet the requirements of the US government in holding what the US government considers *adequate* capital, that they have too much in the way of outstanding loans (or not enough on hand to cover them)- this occurred in over 97 percent of the bank failures.
You will note (if you could read):**NO ONE** lost money held in savings accounts in the USA.
You will note: the US banking system is not on the verge of collapse.
You will note: the USA is not on the verge of collapse, we aren't begging German to come pick up our tabs on bad investments.
PS: BARCLAY's!
But you see the thing is … you said

Quote
Our banks aren't failing- yours are.
Endquote

And I proved you wrong by supplying a list of over 450 US banks that had failed. That in anyone’s book, even that mass delusion and denial factory you call a brain means that that you are wrong. Live with it

You will note that my money and that of millions of others who lost money in the financial meltdown caused by the greed of US bankers was not in savings but investments. It was a gamble we took but for sure the vast majority of those who lost money won’t be investing in US banks again. Sh|t even Icelandic banks are a safer bet.

You will note that the UK banking system is not on the verge of collapse, we have actually had just one (1) financial institution that became close to failure but it was bailed out by the taxpayer. Not 453 banks but 1. That institution named Northern Rock it is still operating as Northern Rock because of that bailout and has actually repaid most of the money required to bail it out. And guess what no saver lost money in that fiasco either.

Your will also note that the US is in debt to the Chinese to over one trillion dollars. And not many months ago the Chinese were getting quite twitchy about the ability of the US to repay its debt. The International credit ratings agencies downgraded the USA in response to its financial troubles which means the US is required to pay a greater interest on any future loans it receives that most other stable western countries.

You do realise the financial and political implications of that debt to China don’t you? Not only you, but your children (if you are not too withered up to have any) and your children’s children will be paying it back in tax dollars.

Barclays, yes, a strong player, what is it, the fourth or fifth largest bank in the world?

Oh look, just checked that, it’s fourth the closest US bank in the table is JPMorgan Chase Bank lying twelfth

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#40316 Oct 13, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You know how much US citizen's lost from savings accounts in failed banks?
Not a nickle.
Who's fault is it your government(s) don't do a better job of regulating your own banks?
PS: How many years was Barclay's inflating interest rates?
Who was talking about savings – Oh it was you, fine. That is yet another bright spot in you ignorance. Well done.

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#40317 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>
When The Truth Finally Comes Out....I Personally Am Going To Bitch Slap Every Idiot Who Voted For The Muslim.
TRY IT YOU NAZI PUNK..........Oh and you birther nuts are insane traitors....LEAVE MY NATION OR BE FORCED OUT TRAITOR......

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#40318 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Why Was The Ambassador In Bengazzi ?
Why Didnt He Have A Marine Escort ?
This Is Worse The Watergate....This Man Was Sacrificed To Find The Cache Of Weapons Obama Gave To The Terrorists.
Biden Laughs At The Deaths And Says " We Didnt Know "....When The State Dept Says, " They Asked For Help "
I Want Hangings To Return....Treason Is Not Acceptable
he was doing his jobs and because the treasonous GOP cut the budget for protection he died...

YOU GOP SLIME SHOULD ALL BE SHOT FOR TREASON.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40319 Oct 13, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
And according to the CBS poll and the Reuter's poll, Biden won.
Holy smokes! it is almost as though the results were positively mixed!
Which was the exact word CNN used... in describing its findings: that they were mixed. And of course, if you read the poll- more than the first paragraph- you would have discovered the CNN poll was conducted among voters who had already committed (and some even already voted) to a candidate.
Here's a thought, puss: the polls about the debates that do not in the end matter themselves do not matter.
Maybe if you learned to read, you would have picked up on the fact the debate changed no voter's mind.
(quote)
Reuters)- Vice President Joe Biden came out on top of Thursday night's vice presidential debate with Republican challenger Paul Ryan, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.
The energetic Biden claimed a seven-point victory - 42 percent to 35 percent - among registered voters, with a similar margin among independents. Nearly a quarter of registered voters and about a third of independents were unsure who did a better job during the debate at Centre College in Danville, Kentucky ( http://bit.ly/Q7KOte ).
Biden Looked Like A Drunken Liberal Idiot, Laughing, Sneering, Over 80 Interuptions....His Lack Of Respect For Himself And The Office Of Vice President was Obvious.

Not Only Am I Not Size Challenged In The Manhood Dept, But I Get As Much Lovin As Any Man Could Ask For.

It must Be Sad To Be You.......

" Black, Black, Black And Blue, Beat Me Till Im Numb.....Tell The Devil I Said Hey, When You Get Back To Where Your From "
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40320 Oct 13, 2012
ToManyLaws wrote:
<quoted text>
TRY IT YOU NAZI PUNK..........Oh and you birther nuts are insane traitors....LEAVE MY NATION OR BE FORCED OUT TRAITOR......
Wow Bitch....You Got Anger Issues...LOL

Please...I Repeat, Please, Try To Force Me Out Of My Country.

Speaking Of Nazis, They Are Having A Resurgence In The EU And Here Domestically....I Read An Article Yesterday About The Losers.

Obama Is The One Gutting The Military, And Knows He Cant Count On Their Votes.....The Pubs Were trying To Get Him To Stop Borrowing And Spending Money We Don't Have.

There's Nowhere To Hide Pal...Stand Up For Your Beliefs And Let The Chips Fall Where They May.

Wonder How Many Fools Will Rush To Get Rid Of The Obama Bumper Stickers...LOL
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#40321 Oct 13, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
...You will note that the UK banking system is not on the verge of collapse,
Don't speak too soon.
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
We have actually had just one (1) financial institution that became close to failure but it was bailed out by the taxpayer. Not 453 banks but 1....
But isn't that partly due to the fact that the UK market is less competitive and consists of few & bigger 'too big to fail' orgs?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticl...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_ac...

And then we have had the Labour Govs attacks (taxes) on our pension funds
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/286782/We...
and the Bank of England's QE 1 & 2 which have reduced the value of our currency as well as doing so much to demolish both savings and pensions.

(I thought you'd appreciate a more thoughtful criticism of your comments :-)

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40322 Oct 13, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
But you see the thing is … you said
Barclays...

PS: Stop blaming the USA for your troubles, you made your bed with the EU, quite you whining (I understand it is part of your DNA). The EU banks are failing because of your lack of regulations that allow bankers to use capital like it was their money and they fronted for a Saturday night poker party.

I am not interested in your copy & pastes that have not a damn thing to do with YOUR banking mess.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40323 Oct 13, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
Quote
Our banks aren't failing- yours are.
Endquote
And I proved you wrong by supplying a list of over 450 US banks
And I pointed out that the USA has over 15,000 banks and savings and loans, and pointed out the banks that fail do not "misplace" their assets- that they fail for the most part because regulators say they do not have enough capital to cover their loans.

That in the USA we have regulations to prevent the failures you are experience with entire countries going bankrupt and meatheads like yourself trying to fix blame on the USA when it is due to your poor banking regulations.

And again, as far as to the character of US bankers I just point AGAIN to the UK bankers inflating and manipulating the interest rates.

ALL UK BANKS, USA had nothing to do with it, though it has cost US banks billions of dollars.

GLASS HOUSES, skanque.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40324 Oct 13, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>
Biden Looked
Cleaned Count Chocula's clock.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#40325 Oct 13, 2012
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Don't speak too soon.
<quoted text>But isn't that partly due to the fact that the UK market is less competitive and consists of few & bigger 'too big to fail' orgs?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/feedarticl...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banks_ac...
And then we have had the Labour Govs attacks (taxes) on our pension funds
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/286782/We...
and the Bank of England's QE 1 & 2 which have reduced the value of our currency as well as doing so much to demolish both savings and pensions.
(I thought you'd appreciate a more thoughtful criticism of your comments :-)
Still speaking. The Greek and parts of the Spanish banking system are in pretty poor shape. Several of the major UK banks are still listed in the top 10 biggest and strongest banks in the world. It depends on which table you look at but HSBC, Barclays and RBS are up there with Deutsche Bank, BNP Paribas, Crédit Agricole and the Bank of China. Nothing is too big to fail, it may bring down governments which is why you see the “too big to fail” flag waving.

Personally I have more confidence to invest in Brit, French or German banks than US banks. Once bitten twice shy and given the repeated drops in confidence in the dollar in the last 12 months, October last, April and the current one when the dollar is just beginning recovery from a low of $61.35 to the pound then I believe my instinct here will prove correct.

This of course was not the argument with butt breath which was about the cause of the 2007 financial crisis and consequent world recession. The US banking market and the UK banking market are 2 different monsters governed by different rules. Whatever the regulations it is clear that the gentleman’s agreement type of business can no longer be conducted with US b(w)ankers.

Yes we have had constant eating away at our pensions from way back in Maggie T’s government, and the financial crash did not help matters then the New Labour bunch made it many times worse and these current clowns aren’t helping unless you are one of the Eton educated crowd.

Actually the value of the GBP is doing quite well on the world market at the moment. In the last year it’s gone from getting €1.15 to €1.28 euros to the pound, actually is down this weekend to €1.24. Great time for you hols thought.

Since just after the 2007 crash it’s about 23% up on the Euro and consistent against the dollar (ignoring those US dips). Xe.com gives a great graphical representation of currency against currency that can be programmed to show historical data from 1 day back to 10 years. I am loath to say it but GB had a point

Thanks for the thought, although any thought is more thoughtful than butt breaths

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#40326 Oct 13, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Barclays...
PS: Stop blaming the USA for your troubles, you made your bed with the EU, quite you whining (I understand it is part of your DNA). The EU banks are failing because of your lack of regulations that allow bankers to use capital like it was their money and they fronted for a Saturday night poker party.
I am not interested in your copy & pastes that have not a damn thing to do with YOUR banking mess.
I am not complaining, I am giving you facts, just because you are too much of a wimp to accept those facts in the face the face of the overwhelming evidence I gave you and in the face of you own government is not my problem. I think it quite hilarious though that the whole world disagrees with you and yet you still manage to p|ss into your own mouth.

Hey butt breath, when I copy and past I cite my source, unlike you who thinks plagiarism was you own invention

Funny how you feign disinterest when you get beat, why the f_ck can’t you grow a pair of balls and accept you are beaten.

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