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[wolverine]

Faith
Does Obama‘s Mystery Ring Really Have ’There Is No God Except Allah’ Inscribed in Arabic?
Posted on October 10, 2012 at 6:30pm by Billy Hallowell

President Barack Obama's ring (Photo Credit: WND)

A World Net Daily (WND) report alleging that a ring President Barack Obama wears on his left hand includes the Islamic and Arabic phrase,“There is no God but Allah,” has been making its way across social media and the blogosphere.

The article cites two Obama critics as sources who claim that the president has been wearing the ring, which apparently now doubles as his wedding band, for the past 30 years. We’ll let WND describe the scenario to you in the outlet’s own words:


As a student at Harvard Law School, then-bachelor Barack Obama’s practice of wearing a gold band on his wedding-ring finger puzzled his colleagues.

Now, newly published photographs of Obama from the 1980s show that the ring Obama wore on his wedding-ring finger as an unmarried student is the same ring Michelle Robinson put on his finger at the couple’s wedding ceremony in 1992.

Moreover, according to Arabic-language and Islamic experts, the ring Obama has been wearing for more than 30 years is adorned with the first part of the Islamic declaration of faith, the Shahada:“There is no god except Allah.”

Some critics will likely seize upon this article to claim that Obama is a Muslim and that this is the proof that’s needed to out his purportedly secretly-held faith. After all, the alleged phrase that some claim is in the ring’s design is part of the shahada, the First Pillar of Islam and the declaration of belief that adherents must accept in order to be counted as Muslims.

[wolverine]

Politics
‘Are You Gonna Do What I Think You’re Gonna Do?’: Latest O’Keefe Video Purportedly Shows DNC Staffer Helping Woman Vote Twice
Posted on October 10, 2012 at 4:35pm by Madeleine Morgenstern

Image source: Project Veritas/YouTube

Editor’s note: See updates below.

A new undercover video from conservative activist James O‘Keefe’s Project Veritas purports to show a staffer for the grassroots Obama effort Organizing for America helping facilitate voter fraud.

In the video, an O’Keefe operative tells a woman identified as Stephanie Caballero, regional field director at OFA Houston, that she has a Florida voter registration card and intends to vote both there and in Texas. While Caballero doesn’t explicitly encourage her to vote twice, she doesn’t discourage her from doing so during their laughter-filled conversations.

“[It] really concerns me that if we don‘t do everything we can we’re not going to win this election,” the videographer tells Caballero after a cut in the video, who according to Project Veritas is a “salaried employee” of the Democratic National Committee.

“So you mean that — OK, so you have to make sure because after 60 days you can send in your application to vote by mail ballot,” Caballero says.“So I can print that out for you. On Wednesday I’ll print it out and you just have to mail it back in or fax.”

“Or fax it back in so that I can do —” the videographer says.

“So they’ll send you a mail ballot,” Caballero replies.

[wolverine]

Lil Ticked wrote:

<quoted text>Or maybe we should get out of the war and save 100% of our spending on it.

That Would Be Nice....Then We Could Prepare For The One Coming To Our Shores.

[Lil Ticked]

wolverine wrote:

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That Would Be Nice....Then We Could Prepare For The One Coming To Our Shores.

We already have one.

[Skeptic]

wolverine wrote:

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That Would Be Nice....Then We Could Prepare For The One Coming To Our Shores.

This is reality folks:

http://i.imgur.com/0g4oN.jpg

[Givemeliberty]

Awesome! Thanks man!

Skeptic wrote:

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This is reality folks:
http://i.imgur.com/0g4oN.jpg

[ChristineM]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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US bankers?
You skanque: I guess you are thinking we over here in the US haven't heard about BARCLAYS screwing over banks in the US & Europe and their fine (£290m, about a half billion dollars)- fixing inflated interest rates and such.
Putting aside that England banking system and most of their commerce was built on slave trade... historically speaking...

Yup, documented fact so you can huff and puff all you want, it will make no difference to the facts.

The libor scandal happened as a direct result of the depressed world economy, which was of course caused by the greed of US banking as outlined in my post on the subject.

The fine is not the money made but represents a bloody big slap on the hand. The actual money Barclays made from the scam is estimated at around $500k a week for the duration of the scam. That was small fry compared to the “trillions” of dollar holes caused by the subprime mortgage scandal that helped to plunge the “world” into recession and toppled major banking institutions and multinational companies.

I believe you are fond of the saying apples with apples. Honey why do you try to compare apples with planets?

Bob Diamond has (eventually) accepted responsibility and resigned, unlike the US bankers who got a government bonus – TWICE. Funnily enough Bob Diamond is American., do you think this had any baring on his actions?

In the UK it was goldsmiths looking for alternatives when Charles 1 seized their gold and so offered banking services to aristocracy for payment. Their profits allowed investments in overseas trade and then the textile industry provided copious amounts of cash that was used profitably to aid the slave trade. So historically speaking, not quite.

[macumazahn]

RHill wrote:

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It does. No so the novel "Carrion Comfort" from Dan Simmons. An easy 900 page, page turner.

I've not read that. I will look.

[barefoot2626]

RHill wrote:

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Since you failed to source or link your data ...

I cannot hope to fix stupid.

Especially with your attention span.

Do Americans in combat zones pay income taxes?

I know: you weren't in a combat zone but you can look it up.

[barefoot2626]

ChristineM wrote:

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Yup, documented fact

B A R C L A Y 's.

Ring a bell?

[barefoot2626]

ChristineM wrote:

The libor scandal happened as a direct result of the depressed world economy, which was of course caused by the greed of US banking as outlined in my post on the subject.

YOU LYING SCANQUE!

B A R C L A Y 's.

Ring a bell?

Had NOTHING to do with sub prime: ZERO.

TELL ME: SINCE WHEN IS 500 BILLION "SMALL CHANGE:?

[Double Fine]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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B A R C L A Y 's.
Ring a bell?

AIG, too.

[barefoot2626]

RHill wrote:

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You're funny barefoot. I make no claims as a historian or student of the cold war.

Maybe when someone who was there makes an assertion you will be more reluctant to offer an option you know nothing about.

The Israelis were losing the Yom Kippur war. The USA was not in the mood to help- to stay neutral or close to it, openly. Meir needed a large and immediate infusion of supplies, particularly spares, and told Kissinger/Nixon she had nukes loaded on jets and was ready to drop them on Damascus & Cairo.

Of course she said this knowing the USSR would react (it did) and the USA reacted to this.

DefConIII.

And I don't care where you were in the world, if you were in the Navy, you would remember.

So you aren't being "truthful".

[barefoot2626]

ChristineM wrote:

The libor scandal happened as a direct result of the depressed world economy, which was of course caused by the greed of US banking

The collapse of EUROPEAN banking systems and failure of entire countries- Greece, Spain, Italy, e.g.: fault of US banks investing in sub prime mortgages?

How 'bout the tsunami and the Japanese earthquake?

Do tell: How did that $455 MILLION fine on Barclays tie in to the US sub prime crisis?

[-Skeptic-]

Failed religious liars desperately trying to lie to atheists about their god hallucinations.

[barefoot2626]

ChristineM wrote:

In the UK it was goldsmiths looking for alternatives when Charles 1 seized their gold and so offered banking services to aristocracy for payment. Their profits allowed investments in overseas trade and then the textile industry provided copious amounts of cash that was used profitably to aid the slave trade. So historically speaking, not quite.

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Banks and banking

The thriving British economy after 1660 was made possible mainly because of Britain's financial institutions. Trading houses, insurance companies and banks emerged to underpin Britain's overseas trade and empire. The expansion of overseas trade, especially in the Atlantic, relied on credit, and bills of credit (like modern travellers cheques), which were at the heart of the slave trade. Similarly, the maritime insurance, which was focused at Lloyds of London, thrived on the Atlantic slave trade.

There were no banks in the City until the mid-17th century, and even a century later, banking was under-developed outside London. But slave traders and planters badly needed credit. A slave voyage from Liverpool to Africa then on to the Caribbean, before heading home, could take 18 months. And each point of the trade - buying and selling Africans, buying and importing produce (mainly sugar) cultivated using the labour of enslaved people - involved credit arrangements. Merchants and traders in London, Bristol and Liverpool, bought the planters' produce, so in effect, British merchants became the bankers of the slave trade.

Provincial banking emerged in the 18th century because of the need for credit in the long-distance Atlantic slave trade. For example, Liverpool merchants involved in slave trading later formed Heywoods Bank, which eventually became part of Barclays Bank. Other modern banking names, such as Lloyds, emerged in this way and inevitably had links to the Atlantic slave trade. The Bank of England was also involved. When it was set up in 1694, it underpinned the whole system of commercial credit, and its wealthy City members, from the governor down, were often men whose fortunes had been made wholly or partly in the slave trade. The Bank of England stabilised the national finances, and enabled the state to wage its major wars of the 18th century. These wars were aimed at securing and safeguarding overseas possessions, including the slave colonies, and to finance the military and naval means that protected the Atlantic slave routes and the plantation economies.
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[barefoot2626]

wolverine wrote:

Politics
‘Are You Gonna Do What I Think You’re Gonna Do?’: Latest O’Keefe Video Purportedly Shows DNC Staffer Helping Woman Vote Twice

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Voter Fraud: The GOP Witch Hunt
Posted: 10/10/2012 3:34 pm

Recently, two large frauds within the Republican voter suppression effort this year have surfaced, which are proving far more serious than any of the alleged shenanigans which have been used to justify these measures. To cover the entirety of the vigorous voter suppression effort on the Right would require a far longer article than this, however, I will be focusing in on two very ugly details: Strategic Allied Consulting and voter suppression vigilantes like True the Vote.

Republicans have ended the voter drives in Nevada, Florida, Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina. Why would they do such a thing? Because the firm they hired, Strategic Allied Consulting, the only company the Republican Party had running registration campaigns in these states, has been rocked by scandal after scandal. This election year, voter suppression law after voter suppression law rolled out, many of which have been struck down as unconstitutional by the courts, all to catch fraud; so far the only fraud that has been proven has been on their side.

Strategic Allied Consulting was accused of fraud during the 2008 campaign. They allegedly paid bonuses for non-Democratic registrations and destroyed hundreds if not thousands of Democratic registrations in Oregon. This leads voters who believed they registered to go to the polls only to find that their registration wasn't completed.

Strategic Allied Consulting was known to be dirty to the Republican National Convention, rocked by scandals long before the RNC recommended them to consult for various state Republican Parties. The firm is headed by the former executive director of the Arizona Republican Party and was the sole company hired for the "Get Out The Vote" effort in many important swing states, leaving the Republican voter drive in dire straights.

Aside from the official voter fight that the Republican Party has poured money into, there's an unofficial disenfranchisement effort underway by organizations such as True the Vote. True the Vote is a Tea Party organization, and pushing for Mitt Romney while claiming to be a nonpartisan organization. For example, they aggressively targeted hundred of college students, claiming that they cannot vote because they failed to specify a dorm room number. The names they choose to challenge are disproportionately from trailer parks, dorms and other likely-Democratic voters. Their claims have been debunked wherever they've been filed, however, chasing down these names takes time and energy away from other duties election officials have this close to the election.

True the Vote, which has its roots in a Tea Party group (the King Street Patriots), has an obvious political agenda: block Obama from a second term by disenfranchising his support. It's become obvious enough that Congress is stepping in with an investigation, however, any changes won't take affect until after the election.

The unofficial efforts by Republicans dovetail nicely with the voter suppression effort pushed in swing states across the country, from the voter purges of Florida to the ID laws proposed in Pennsylvania. When all of the various efforts to make voting more complicated, difficult, costly, inconvenient or confusing are listed, there is no doubt that there has been a concerted effort on the Right to attack the voting rights of any demographic that is likely to vote for Obama under the guise of preventing voter fraud. When the GOP is implicated in funding fraudulent registrations and has voter fraud committed on it's behalf, it undermines the already transparently-fraudulent witch hunt that it's been on for the past year to find the voter fraud to justify it's voter suppression policies.
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[RHill]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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I cannot hope to fix stupid.
Especially with your attention span.
Do Americans in combat zones pay income taxes?
I know: you weren't in a combat zone but you can look it up.

Physician! Heal thyself!!

[RHill]

barefoot2626 wrote:

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Maybe when someone who was there makes an assertion you will be more reluctant to offer an option you know nothing about.
The Israelis were losing the Yom Kippur war. The USA was not in the mood to help- to stay neutral or close to it, openly. Meir needed a large and immediate infusion of supplies, particularly spares, and told Kissinger/Nixon she had nukes loaded on jets and was ready to drop them on Damascus & Cairo.
Of course she said this knowing the USSR would react (it did) and the USA reacted to this.
DefConIII.
And I don't care where you were in the world, if you were in the Navy, you would remember.
So you aren't being "truthful".

I provided you a link to a Facebook page from the Kagnew Station, Asmara, Ethiopia Group that pictured me, along with other members of the NCA gang. Had you visited the Group, you would have found there quite a number of photos submitted by me. But, whatever.

On the other hand, you have NEVER said or offered information not accessible in the Public Domain or by reading a few Clancy novels. Indeed, you have every aspect of a homebound person, devoid of personal experience, who lives vicariously through Internet arguments and voracious reading. That's okay. I like you anyway.

[barefoot2626]

RHill wrote:

Physician! Heal thyself!!

You cry when I point out where you are wrong, you say you are ignorant (no one disagrees), I point to where you are wrong (as you were here, the US military does not pay income tax in combat zones): and you continue in your ignorance.