In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40108 Oct 9, 2012
Dont Cry Bare Backfoot.....Your Albino African Will Be Coming Home To His Kenyan Village Soon, Where You Can Have A Parade, And Dance And Frolick.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#40109 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
We need to raise (restore) taxes on the super rich and regulate the banking sector the way it needs to be regulated.

"Small business" could mean anything anymore. It's a talking point.

I'm going to have to do some reading on the new healthcare plan. It seems like it is a huge compromise. I want what Canada has. I don't care if they call it The Socialist American Pinko Health Plan.

Since: Feb 11

Grants Pass, OR

#40110 Oct 9, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Dont Cry Bare Backfoot.
I don't have to cry, KnobJob: I don't care about anyone cutting off your food stamps.

I guess you are going to have to work two stalls at once.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#40111 Oct 9, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
We need to raise (restore) taxes on the super rich and regulate the banking sector the way it needs to be regulated.
"Small business" could mean anything anymore. It's a talking point.
I'm going to have to do some reading on the new healthcare plan. It seems like it is a huge compromise. I want what Canada has. I don't care if they call it The Socialist American Pinko Health Plan.
Probably not possible due to the numbers involved.
We have over 10 times the volume of people. But yes it would be nice
they pay a monthly premium and huge taxes 40% for it.

Since: Aug 12

Waverly, TN

#40112 Oct 9, 2012
If we tax the top 30 % at 100% we could pay for 1% of our yearly spending

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#40113 Oct 9, 2012
Gods shoeshine wrote:
If we tax the top 30 % at 100% we could pay for 1% of our yearly spending
Taxing someone 100% is what? What would you want , for Bill Gate to have to apply for food stamps?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#40114 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Probably not possible due to the numbers involved.
We have over 10 times the volume of people. But yes it would be nice
they pay a monthly premium and huge taxes 40% for it.
I'd like an optional, tiered public healthcare system.

Replace the private investors with public investors, and you remove the conflicts of interest. Private insurance is there to make money, not make people healthy. I just don't see healthcare as the place to squeeze people.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40115 Oct 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>You're wrong again. Most companies, when downsizing and laying people off, try to lay off some of the higher paid people who have been there the longest and keep those who are at or near minimum wage and a few supervisors. That's the only thing that makes economic sense and keeps companies from going under.
I think you're telling tales.
I haven't worked for "most companies" and therefore my statements are drawn from personal experience with the few (several) that had reason to lay people off. Of course, I've only worked in technical capacities. Bean counters and wannabe execs are probably a dime-a-dozen.

Since: Feb 11

Grants Pass, OR

#40116 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Taxing someone 100% is what? What would you want , for Bill Gate to have to apply for food stamps?
Of course, Romney's plan is to tax himself at 0.83 percent.

That is ZERO.83 percent, not quite one percent.
While the middle class pays 28 percent.

And we still wait for you to identify ONE tax loophole.

One.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40117 Oct 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>There are 'money-squandering schemes' by both Democrats and Republicans. You can't lay it in the lap of only one party, though it seems you'd like to.
I don't need to prove anything about my life and my accomplishments to you.
I disagree with barefoot on most things, not because he's entirely wrong, but in the way he interprets things. I think he's outright wrong on some things. That doesn't make him a bad person. What makes him a bad person is the way he behaves. But then, once in a while, I agree with him on something.
I'm not a one-sided person who is blinded by hate and therefore can see when someone, even someone with whom I disagree, makes a good point. You should try it. It's entirely liberating to be able to see more than your own view.
This is why I hate talking politics ... I really don't have or devote the time to do a thorough analysis ... there's so many far more interesting things in life. Consequently, y'all get my largely unqualified opinions based upon a most cursory and disinterested scan of a few Yahoo headlines. So sue me. I have not solicited information from you regarding your life or accomplishments. Unfortunately, I seem to have some ill-concealed need for validation. It sux being human. If I seem "blinded by hate" then I have failed to communicate my sense of humor. I'll keep trying. I'm here because I find you guys more interesting than "Pawn Stars" which is itself infinitely more interesting than the "McNeil-Lehrer News Hour". Just remember ... "A point in every direction is the same as no point at all" <Harry Nilsson>.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40118 Oct 9, 2012
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
This is why I hate talking politics ... I really don't have or devote the time to do a thorough analysis ... there's so many far more interesting things in life. Consequently, y'all get my largely unqualified opinions based upon a most cursory and disinterested scan of a few Yahoo headlines. So sue me. I have not solicited information from you regarding your life or accomplishments. Unfortunately, I seem to have some ill-concealed need for validation. It sux being human. If I seem "blinded by hate" then I have failed to communicate my sense of humor. I'll keep trying. I'm here because I find you guys more interesting than "Pawn Stars" which is itself infinitely more interesting than the "McNeil-Lehrer News Hour". Just remember ... "A point in every direction is the same as no point at all" <Harry Nilsson>.
This Still Makes You More Qualifed Then The Average Liberal, To Talk About Politics. Nothing, I Repeat, Nothing You Hear Or See From The Media Today Is Factual, They Have Become Useless.

From What I Have Read From You, Is Good Basic Traditional Values, With A Dash Of Liberal Misdirection....But That Is Because Of The Massive Indoctrination Efforts Over The Last 45 Years Or So....There Is Still Hope For You, While Most Of These Braindead Have Past That Possibility.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40119 Oct 9, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd like an optional, tiered public healthcare system.
Replace the private investors with public investors, and you remove the conflicts of interest. Private insurance is there to make money, not make people healthy. I just don't see healthcare as the place to squeeze people.
While I Agree That Healthcare Needs Reform, We Must Remember That It Is And Never Has Been A " Right "

Its A Business That Provides A Service, Which Employs MIllions.
People Seem To Afford Nice Cars, Cell Phones, Satilite TV...ETC
But Dont Plan For Healthcare ? And Somehow Its Supposed To Be Given Freely To Those Who Refuse To Be Frugle, At The Tax Payers Expense. Remembering That Only Half Of Americans Pay Taxes ?

No, This Is An Entitlement Problem, As Well As Greed By Hospitals And Insurance Companies. Illegals Overwhelm The System, With Anything From Colds To Childbirth. It Is No More A " Right " For Them To Have Free Healthcare, Then The MIllions Who Refuse To Work Or Pay Their Own Way. Of Course We Feel The Need To Help Those Who Really Need It....But At Some Point, Enough Is Enough.

“First it steals your mind..”

Since: Jun 11

..and then it steals your soul

#40121 Oct 10, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash and 20 million lost , people still can't get loans to build new houses. Most of the jobs created are jobs nobody wants. Working on the roads and on bases.
Those stats are from your government amigo.

And work nobody wants is still work. I would rther work at roadside and at least get paid instead of going hungry

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#40123 Oct 10, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
Those stats are from your government amigo.
And work nobody wants is still work. I would rther work at roadside and at least get paid instead of going hungry
Well while this is true , now think about what impact road work has on small businesses.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40124 Oct 10, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>
This Still Makes You More Qualifed Then The Average Liberal, To Talk About Politics. Nothing, I Repeat, Nothing You Hear Or See From The Media Today Is Factual, They Have Become Useless.
From What I Have Read From You, Is Good Basic Traditional Values, With A Dash Of Liberal Misdirection....But That Is Because Of The Massive Indoctrination Efforts Over The Last 45 Years Or So....There Is Still Hope For You, While Most Of These Braindead Have Past That Possibility.
I definitely see the media playing us all like violins. Yahoo news is probably one of the worst, but they're so clumsy at it, it's almost funny. At least you are given the opportunity to comment about the article and there's no censorship. Not quite true, their robo-censor makes Church Lady seem like a potty mouth. While one would expect a large degree of general skepticism from groups of Atheist, I actually find many of them aligned along party-lines in a most disturbing manner. Indeed, politics is itself a game of manipulation and my dis-interest has rendered me somewhat immune. I can say that the rainbow hued future was poorly imagined by most Sci-fi authors ... except maybe Anthony Burgess, Ayn Rand, Aldous Huxley or our old friend George Orwell.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#40125 Oct 10, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash and 20 million lost , people still can't get loans to build new houses. Most of the jobs created are jobs nobody wants. Working on the roads and on bases.
That’s what happens when US b(w)ankers take it into their head they can screw the world.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#40126 Oct 10, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
That’s what happens when US b(w)ankers take it into their head they can screw the world.
Yep to top the cake the banksters took the government money and
gave themselves bonuses , not once but twice.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40127 Oct 10, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Well while this is true , now think about what impact road work has on small businesses.
Tell me, why can't the un-employed masses, the recipients of the funds doled out by the liberalized welfare state, be put to good use in infrastructure renewal and revitalization? You know who I'm talking about ... that 47% whom Romney senses might not fall in behind him ... those too lazy to sow, but seem quite perky around reaping time, waiting for their worry-free wheat while the rest of us get the chaff. Too much like slavery I guess. I should know, I'm a white slave ... shouldering the new "white man's burden" of feeding the dog's who are so eager to bite the hand!!! I'm seriously considering a new career as an outlaw biker. Now that's the life.

<sorry, hope I didn't get any on ya>

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40128 Oct 10, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
<quoted text>
That’s what happens when US b(w)ankers take it into their head they can screw the world.
Do you really think they're that smart? I envision the world screwers living high-on-the-hog in Switzerland or maybe Austria.

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#40129 Oct 10, 2012
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, why can't the un-employed masses, the recipients of the funds doled out by the liberalized welfare state, be put to good use in infrastructure renewal and revitalization? You know who I'm talking about ... that 47% whom Romney senses might not fall in behind him ... those too lazy to sow, but seem quite perky around reaping time, waiting for their worry-free wheat while the rest of us get the chaff. Too much like slavery I guess. I should know, I'm a white slave ... shouldering the new "white man's burden" of feeding the dog's who are so eager to bite the hand!!! I'm seriously considering a new career as an outlaw biker. Now that's the life.
<sorry, hope I didn't get any on ya>
I do know what you mean , I get no government help.
Never had a bank house loan default , didn't start any wars.
It's a tough life but , someone has to live it.
You may choose to do this, just be prepared to suffer the consequence if the hand is dealt not in favor.
I just keep hoping it will get better and not for the worse.
Causing the same thing as in the 30's and the most infamous of villains to being on the short paths to destruction.

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