In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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SupaAFC

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Oct 9, 2012
 
barefoot2626 wrote:
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I need only to read your post, Shug, to have a case study for a pathological liar.
In other words, you think lies are the words of other people regardless of whether they are even valid or not.
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Find that quote yet, hon?
Yes, I did. I have posted it plenty of times now, only for you to keep claiming that you "meant" something else.

Not once did you mention the Lords prior to claiming that you meant them, and only them.

Not once have you conceded that even if we play along with your claim about the Lords, that it is plainly wrong anyway considering that even the Lords Spiritual are selected not by the CoE, but by the Prime Minister from a list drawn up by a nominations committee.

Not once have you conceded that even if we also pretended that the Lords were appointed by the CoE, that it amounts to nothing anyway considering the Lords do nothing as they have no real power anymore to do much, if anything at all.

Conclusion? What you claim your post "really" meant means absolutely nothing at all. You still think that Britain lives in the 18th century to desperately cling to your argument that Britain is just as, if not more, religiously influenced than your own country.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again, Barefoot.

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People like you are why this country is in a mess. Rid the world of atheshits like you, and we can recover back to peace and order.
in what way? gas chambers and cremation?

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Double Fine wrote:
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The problem here amigo, is what part is Obama's fault, and what part is circumstance? The situation EVERYWHERE fickle. Even here, I can show you malls opening here in SA in what is considered prime real estate, and sitting completely empty.
The global economy is what is making it hard for the small guy.
Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.

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wolverine wrote:
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Wow, Does It Hurt To Be You, Tissue, Jackwagon ?
Wow, It muSt tate rEally awFUl to be you, DickLick.

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Lowering tax rates does not reduce the budget - it has zero effect on the budget.
You are a stupid phuq.

Only if you a Bush trickle economist does lowering the budget not have an impact on the budget- since Bush did not have a problem spending money that the US no longer had, which resulted in the ten billion dollar hole he dug.

Spending money that he did not have.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
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Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
...yet nearly 4 million jobs created in your private sector in the past 2 years?

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You are a stupid phuq.
Only if you a Bush trickle economist does lowering the budget not have an impact on the budget- since Bush did not have a problem spending money that the US no longer had, which resulted in the ten billion dollar hole he dug.
Spending money that he did not have.
Anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerk

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Buck Crick wrote:
Cutting marginal tax rates and capital gains tax rates INCREASES revenue to the treasury. The largest amount of revenue ever collected in a year was in 2007 - with the evil Bush tax rate cuts in place.
I guess you missed the BUSH RECESSION in 2008-09?

And that he reversed median household income (in 2007, adjusted for inflation, was lower than it when he went into office)

And that DEFICIT BALLOONED?

(Bush was handed a budget surplus; had he kept on track, the deficit WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID DOWN TO ZERO THIS YEAR)

And Bush the Buffoon left the country with the deficit and the unpaid bill for the two wars he got us into?

One of which we are still in?

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The real USA First wrote:
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Anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerk
Anti American dong licking tea bag whining commie welfare mooching jerk

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Aura Mytha wrote:
Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
Lying your azz off doesn't help either: but it doesn't seem to slow you down.

A) Obama hasn't raised taxes
B) thousands of new regulations are passed or changed with EVERY PRESIDENT, dingus.
C) Romney promises to take us back to Bush & higher deficit spending. Trickle down doesn't work. How many times do you want to try it?

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SupaAFC wrote:
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In other words, you think lies are the words of other people regardless of whether they are even valid or not.
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Yes, I did.
Haven't.

You keep hoping that your paraphrase means that I said what you wanted me to mean.

That is why you cannot find the direct quote.

That is why you changed what I said (members of Parliament) to Members of Parliment and then insisted I said MPs...

That is why you cannot find me saying you could not vote for MPs.

Stomp your feet all you like: you do not vote for the PM, you do not vote for members of the House of Lords. The Church of England makes appointments to the Parliament. You do not get to vote for who is the monarch. The monarch and only the monarch has the power to dissolve the Parliament and indeed the govermnet of the UK itself.

You got nothing new. Don't waste any of my time. I understand yours has little value.

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Not once did you mention the Lords prior to claiming that you meant them, and only them.
I am not responsible for you jumping to the wrong conclusion.

The members of Parliament covers both houses- which you apparently were not aware.

It makes you look rather idiotic: that I know more about the working of your government than you.

I guess you know how to apply for government assistance and that's about it.

PS: scan for my name and Lords Spiritual. You are rather a hapless ignorant liar.

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Oct 9, 2012
 
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>Your antisemitism is showing ... again.
Wasn't the Iraq war antisemitic

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Oct 9, 2012
 
Why do atheist use the word Semitic ? Outside believing the story of Noah the term is irrelevant

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There should be a "safety net" it should be time limited, you should be drug tested, you should prove that you are actively seeking employment on your own and if you have no marketable skills, you should be provided training opportunities.
Personally, I've worked several places where there were lay offs and I never got laid off. It's a companies way of shaking off the fleas and ticks, the leeches and the dead weight. If you're competent and work hard you won't get laid off.
You're wrong again. Most companies, when downsizing and laying people off, try to lay off some of the higher paid people who have been there the longest and keep those who are at or near minimum wage and a few supervisors. That's the only thing that makes economic sense and keeps companies from going under.

I think you're telling tales.

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I might be wrong ... if so, correct me. I might learn something, you might get to feel like you've accomplished something. Who knows? You did not really address my concerns. Are these money squandering moves truth or lies? Are they actual events which I may have misinterpreted? Personally, I believe they are "real" and the only logical explanation is that Obama is bleeding the country dry. There's no surer path to Third World status. Fiscal conservatives could save the day but the Republicans and religious whackos SEEM to be in bed together ... at least as from what you can see in the media. The only logical explanation for that is they WANT Obama to win the election ... to finish the job. I guess they expect a lot of good stories to come out of the collapse. I don't think being wrong about something is the same as lying ... apparently you and Barefoot disagree.
There are 'money-squandering schemes' by both Democrats and Republicans. You can't lay it in the lap of only one party, though it seems you'd like to.

I don't need to prove anything about my life and my accomplishments to you.

I disagree with barefoot on most things, not because he's entirely wrong, but in the way he interprets things. I think he's outright wrong on some things. That doesn't make him a bad person. What makes him a bad person is the way he behaves. But then, once in a while, I agree with him on something.

I'm not a one-sided person who is blinded by hate and therefore can see when someone, even someone with whom I disagree, makes a good point. You should try it. It's entirely liberating to be able to see more than your own view.

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> No it was the S&L failure, the Lehman Bros. collapse the greed of the bankers.
2 major natural disasters ,Iraq invading Kuwait and Saddam's defiance to the UN with and 9/11 causing yet another war that caused our predicament , Yes Bernie Madoff helped us out too.
The Housing market collapse , because banks selling mortgages to people that couldn't afford them with rates that were daisy for the first year and then reality. It has more to do with bankers collecting hefty commissions on sales to people who could not pay for what they bought than it has to do with policy or parties in the political arena.
But it's so easy to blame Bush , he wasn't the best or smartest president ever , but he wasn't the cause of all problems America is in now. We simply brought them on ourselves. Though personally I've really not had anything to do with them , but I accept they are my problems too.
You need to think back to the deregulation of the banking industry as one of the beginning points of the problems. There would have been no such loans without the deregulation. There will always be some banking problems, but there would not have been the collapse that happened had it not been for deregulation.

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People like you are why this country is in a mess. Rid the world of atheshits like you, and we can recover back to peace and order.
This is the way all fanatical theists think and talk. You'd just like to kill off everyone who disagrees with you and put into place those you 'think' agree with you. But when that happens, you would find soon enough that you'd be on the Inquisitor's list. And probably at the top, too.

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water_nymph wrote:
I disagree with barefoot on most things, not because he's entirely wrong, but in the way he interprets things.
Yes, I interpret things the way they are, Chubby: I don't ask approval of my fellow NotBots and decide that hey! Barefoot is issuing facts again but the whiners in England have decided they get their own version of facts and I dare not agree with what he says.

E.G.: the Queen and only the Queen has the power to dismiss the Parliament and even the government, and the fact that, no matter how hard the Tommies stomp their feet, the Church of England appoints members to the House of Lords.

Barefoot2626 tends to interpret the facts as they are without looking around to see who agrees with him.

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water_nymph wrote:
What makes him a bad person is the way he behaves.
What makes you a bad person, Chubby, is you started it and you dish it out, and then you cry about it when it gets tossed back in your face.

It makes you a huge lame hypocrite, Chubby, and as a human being: dishonest.

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