In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40075 Oct 9, 2012
RHill wrote:
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There should be a "safety net" it should be time limited, you should be drug tested, you should prove that you are actively seeking employment on your own and if you have no marketable skills, you should be provided training opportunities.
Personally, I've worked several places where there were lay offs and I never got laid off. It's a companies way of shaking off the fleas and ticks, the leeches and the dead weight. If you're competent and work hard you won't get laid off.
A very broad statement amigo.

General Motors' forecasted sales halved from 2008 to 2009 (this changed, they found fessible markets in Russia and in China). I know that for a fact, because we produced a jack and catalytic converter for every single GM car that ran off the line.

The plant I was in had 192 employees in August 2008. By February 2009, there was less than 80.

I can assure you that a great many of the men and woman laid off where assets to the company

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40076 Oct 9, 2012
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
32 - 16?
What happened?
Sigh.

We got our arses kicked.

16-12 lead by half time, we had them on the ropes. But second half they rallied and blown us off the park.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40077 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> I don't think the whole plan is ironed out atm DF but at least he is adamant about private enterprise and what it takes with the American dream. Not socialistic big government controlled BULL SHITE, because the government is combat ineffective when it comes to making the economy
pump up and go. Besides being strapped they want to add programs we simply cannot afford. We have no good leadership here.
But America past a gargantuan milestone with private enterprise early this morning. The first private supplier of the space station
successfully launched their rocket taking supplies up there.
SpaceX is on the up. America was built on private enterprises .
Obama is killing not only the ability for private enterprise but killing the will of our people by government control.
We need to get rid of those controls so capitalism can function, we are not socialists, and that's where Obama is leading us.
The problem here amigo, is what part is Obama's fault, and what part is circumstance? The situation EVERYWHERE fickle. Even here, I can show you malls opening here in SA in what is considered prime real estate, and sitting completely empty.

The global economy is what is making it hard for the small guy.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40078 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> The fact is a growing economy has more money coming in.
So if you are able to pay the tax and able to move your business forward, then other are also.
The Tax base increases , so revenue collected increases.
The economy moves forward with less control and less tax , but collection is higher because it is moving.
That's the deal that's capitalism , that's how it works.
The thing here is that no matter what you do, you are going to find it hard to grow.

At the therblig level: Let's say I open us a small business in the US, living the American dream. I need people to buy from me in order to make money. In fact, I need people to buy a hell of a lot, because I have to pay rent, overheads, raw materials and salaries.

If my target market is all just scraping by, then I am not going to turn a profit.

That is not the fault of Obama, it is global circumstance.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40079 Oct 9, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Do we even have any Kiwis on here?
None that I can think of, only the odd Aussie - Atomic G and Richard FS

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40080 Oct 9, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Liberal justices know best for us.
You are learning.

Next lessons will include:

- Infinity: Just a concept
- The shape of the earth; yes, round IS close enough to cut it
- Evolution and the fossil record
- Intelligent Design: Creationism in disguise
- Muslims: Not all of them wants to kill you!
SupaAFC

Aberdeen, UK

#40081 Oct 9, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
I need only to read your post, Shug, to have a case study for a pathological liar.
In other words, you think lies are the words of other people regardless of whether they are even valid or not.
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Find that quote yet, hon?
Yes, I did. I have posted it plenty of times now, only for you to keep claiming that you "meant" something else.

Not once did you mention the Lords prior to claiming that you meant them, and only them.

Not once have you conceded that even if we play along with your claim about the Lords, that it is plainly wrong anyway considering that even the Lords Spiritual are selected not by the CoE, but by the Prime Minister from a list drawn up by a nominations committee.

Not once have you conceded that even if we also pretended that the Lords were appointed by the CoE, that it amounts to nothing anyway considering the Lords do nothing as they have no real power anymore to do much, if anything at all.

Conclusion? What you claim your post "really" meant means absolutely nothing at all. You still think that Britain lives in the 18th century to desperately cling to your argument that Britain is just as, if not more, religiously influenced than your own country.

Wrong, wrong and wrong again, Barefoot.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#40083 Oct 9, 2012
Just Results wrote:
<quoted text>
People like you are why this country is in a mess. Rid the world of atheshits like you, and we can recover back to peace and order.
in what way? gas chambers and cremation?

“ Knight Of Hyrule”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#40084 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
The problem here amigo, is what part is Obama's fault, and what part is circumstance? The situation EVERYWHERE fickle. Even here, I can show you malls opening here in SA in what is considered prime real estate, and sitting completely empty.
The global economy is what is making it hard for the small guy.
Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40085 Oct 9, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow, Does It Hurt To Be You, Tissue, Jackwagon ?
Wow, It muSt tate rEally awFUl to be you, DickLick.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40086 Oct 9, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Lowering tax rates does not reduce the budget - it has zero effect on the budget.
You are a stupid phuq.

Only if you a Bush trickle economist does lowering the budget not have an impact on the budget- since Bush did not have a problem spending money that the US no longer had, which resulted in the ten billion dollar hole he dug.

Spending money that he did not have.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#40087 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
...yet nearly 4 million jobs created in your private sector in the past 2 years?

“Nobama care”

Since: Mar 11

just a tax hike

#40088 Oct 9, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a stupid phuq.
Only if you a Bush trickle economist does lowering the budget not have an impact on the budget- since Bush did not have a problem spending money that the US no longer had, which resulted in the ten billion dollar hole he dug.
Spending money that he did not have.
Anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerk

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40089 Oct 9, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
Cutting marginal tax rates and capital gains tax rates INCREASES revenue to the treasury. The largest amount of revenue ever collected in a year was in 2007 - with the evil Bush tax rate cuts in place.
I guess you missed the BUSH RECESSION in 2008-09?

And that he reversed median household income (in 2007, adjusted for inflation, was lower than it when he went into office)

And that DEFICIT BALLOONED?

(Bush was handed a budget surplus; had he kept on track, the deficit WOULD HAVE BEEN PAID DOWN TO ZERO THIS YEAR)

And Bush the Buffoon left the country with the deficit and the unpaid bill for the two wars he got us into?

One of which we are still in?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40090 Oct 9, 2012
The real USA First wrote:
<quoted text>
Anti American bleeding heart liberal commie jerk
Anti American dong licking tea bag whining commie welfare mooching jerk

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40091 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
Lying your azz off doesn't help either: but it doesn't seem to slow you down.

A) Obama hasn't raised taxes
B) thousands of new regulations are passed or changed with EVERY PRESIDENT, dingus.
C) Romney promises to take us back to Bush & higher deficit spending. Trickle down doesn't work. How many times do you want to try it?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40092 Oct 9, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
<quoted text>
In other words, you think lies are the words of other people regardless of whether they are even valid or not.
<quoted text>
Yes, I did.
Haven't.

You keep hoping that your paraphrase means that I said what you wanted me to mean.

That is why you cannot find the direct quote.

That is why you changed what I said (members of Parliament) to Members of Parliment and then insisted I said MPs...

That is why you cannot find me saying you could not vote for MPs.

Stomp your feet all you like: you do not vote for the PM, you do not vote for members of the House of Lords. The Church of England makes appointments to the Parliament. You do not get to vote for who is the monarch. The monarch and only the monarch has the power to dissolve the Parliament and indeed the govermnet of the UK itself.

You got nothing new. Don't waste any of my time. I understand yours has little value.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40093 Oct 9, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
Not once did you mention the Lords prior to claiming that you meant them, and only them.
I am not responsible for you jumping to the wrong conclusion.

The members of Parliament covers both houses- which you apparently were not aware.

It makes you look rather idiotic: that I know more about the working of your government than you.

I guess you know how to apply for government assistance and that's about it.

PS: scan for my name and Lords Spiritual. You are rather a hapless ignorant liar.

Since: Aug 12

Dickson, TN

#40094 Oct 9, 2012
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>Your antisemitism is showing ... again.
Wasn't the Iraq war antisemitic

Since: Aug 12

Dickson, TN

#40095 Oct 9, 2012
Why do atheist use the word Semitic ? Outside believing the story of Noah the term is irrelevant

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