In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#40097 Oct 9, 2012
RHill wrote:
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I might be wrong ... if so, correct me. I might learn something, you might get to feel like you've accomplished something. Who knows? You did not really address my concerns. Are these money squandering moves truth or lies? Are they actual events which I may have misinterpreted? Personally, I believe they are "real" and the only logical explanation is that Obama is bleeding the country dry. There's no surer path to Third World status. Fiscal conservatives could save the day but the Republicans and religious whackos SEEM to be in bed together ... at least as from what you can see in the media. The only logical explanation for that is they WANT Obama to win the election ... to finish the job. I guess they expect a lot of good stories to come out of the collapse. I don't think being wrong about something is the same as lying ... apparently you and Barefoot disagree.
There are 'money-squandering schemes' by both Democrats and Republicans. You can't lay it in the lap of only one party, though it seems you'd like to.

I don't need to prove anything about my life and my accomplishments to you.

I disagree with barefoot on most things, not because he's entirely wrong, but in the way he interprets things. I think he's outright wrong on some things. That doesn't make him a bad person. What makes him a bad person is the way he behaves. But then, once in a while, I agree with him on something.

I'm not a one-sided person who is blinded by hate and therefore can see when someone, even someone with whom I disagree, makes a good point. You should try it. It's entirely liberating to be able to see more than your own view.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#40098 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> No it was the S&L failure, the Lehman Bros. collapse the greed of the bankers.
2 major natural disasters ,Iraq invading Kuwait and Saddam's defiance to the UN with and 9/11 causing yet another war that caused our predicament , Yes Bernie Madoff helped us out too.
The Housing market collapse , because banks selling mortgages to people that couldn't afford them with rates that were daisy for the first year and then reality. It has more to do with bankers collecting hefty commissions on sales to people who could not pay for what they bought than it has to do with policy or parties in the political arena.
But it's so easy to blame Bush , he wasn't the best or smartest president ever , but he wasn't the cause of all problems America is in now. We simply brought them on ourselves. Though personally I've really not had anything to do with them , but I accept they are my problems too.
You need to think back to the deregulation of the banking industry as one of the beginning points of the problems. There would have been no such loans without the deregulation. There will always be some banking problems, but there would not have been the collapse that happened had it not been for deregulation.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#40099 Oct 9, 2012
Just Results wrote:
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People like you are why this country is in a mess. Rid the world of atheshits like you, and we can recover back to peace and order.
This is the way all fanatical theists think and talk. You'd just like to kill off everyone who disagrees with you and put into place those you 'think' agree with you. But when that happens, you would find soon enough that you'd be on the Inquisitor's list. And probably at the top, too.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40100 Oct 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
I disagree with barefoot on most things, not because he's entirely wrong, but in the way he interprets things.
Yes, I interpret things the way they are, Chubby: I don't ask approval of my fellow NotBots and decide that hey! Barefoot is issuing facts again but the whiners in England have decided they get their own version of facts and I dare not agree with what he says.

E.G.: the Queen and only the Queen has the power to dismiss the Parliament and even the government, and the fact that, no matter how hard the Tommies stomp their feet, the Church of England appoints members to the House of Lords.

Barefoot2626 tends to interpret the facts as they are without looking around to see who agrees with him.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40101 Oct 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
What makes him a bad person is the way he behaves.
What makes you a bad person, Chubby, is you started it and you dish it out, and then you cry about it when it gets tossed back in your face.

It makes you a huge lame hypocrite, Chubby, and as a human being: dishonest.
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40102 Oct 9, 2012
So, The Worlds Purposely On Fire And The Pawns Blame Each Other.

If I Didnt Have Inside Knowledge, As To How This Will All Work Out , I Might Give A Rats Azz.

Too Bad You Didnt Listen, When You Had The Chance.

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#40103 Oct 9, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
<quoted text>
...yet nearly 4 million jobs created in your private sector in the past 2 years?
Hogwash and 20 million lost , people still can't get loans to build new houses. Most of the jobs created are jobs nobody wants. Working on the roads and on bases.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40104 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text>
Hogwash and 20 million lost.
Numbers mean nothing when you make them up.

I understand: draft dodger Romney can't run on any specifics since he hasn't any.

Still waiting for you to name that tax loophole...

“Waytogo”

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#40105 Oct 9, 2012
It is hard for atheist because religious people are such hate filled violent bigots.....Lucky we have the constitution to protect us from religous zealots...

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#40106 Oct 9, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
<quoted text>
Numbers mean nothing when you make them up.
I understand: draft dodger Romney can't run on any specifics since he hasn't any.
Still waiting for you to name that tax loophole...
Tell us buttfoot are they building lots of shiny new homes in your state? Oh I forgot.. the state of confusion , isn't really a state.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40107 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Tell us buttfoot are they building lots of shiny new homes in your state?
Tell me, DongLIcker: why is it you can't find Draft Dodger's tax loophole?

Just one/
wolverine

Greeley, CO

#40108 Oct 9, 2012
Dont Cry Bare Backfoot.....Your Albino African Will Be Coming Home To His Kenyan Village Soon, Where You Can Have A Parade, And Dance And Frolick.

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#40109 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Understood but domestically and specifically here in the US the bottom line is, what has been done hasn't helped and in fact most are hurting business. The government placing healthcare demands
on people who are struggling now is not helping.
I heard it from people already they had to let people go because
of it. When it goes into effect next year it will become worse.
Government regulations make people want to quit even trying,
and he keeps loading more on. Raising taxes and forcing new regulations on small business isn't helping us DF it's hurting.
We need to raise (restore) taxes on the super rich and regulate the banking sector the way it needs to be regulated.

"Small business" could mean anything anymore. It's a talking point.

I'm going to have to do some reading on the new healthcare plan. It seems like it is a huge compromise. I want what Canada has. I don't care if they call it The Socialist American Pinko Health Plan.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40110 Oct 9, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Dont Cry Bare Backfoot.
I don't have to cry, KnobJob: I don't care about anyone cutting off your food stamps.

I guess you are going to have to work two stalls at once.

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#40111 Oct 9, 2012
Tide with Beach wrote:
<quoted text>
We need to raise (restore) taxes on the super rich and regulate the banking sector the way it needs to be regulated.
"Small business" could mean anything anymore. It's a talking point.
I'm going to have to do some reading on the new healthcare plan. It seems like it is a huge compromise. I want what Canada has. I don't care if they call it The Socialist American Pinko Health Plan.
Probably not possible due to the numbers involved.
We have over 10 times the volume of people. But yes it would be nice
they pay a monthly premium and huge taxes 40% for it.

Since: Aug 12

Waverly, TN

#40112 Oct 9, 2012
If we tax the top 30 % at 100% we could pay for 1% of our yearly spending

“Proud Member”

Since: Dec 10

The Basket of Deplorables

#40113 Oct 9, 2012
Gods shoeshine wrote:
If we tax the top 30 % at 100% we could pay for 1% of our yearly spending
Taxing someone 100% is what? What would you want , for Bill Gate to have to apply for food stamps?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#40114 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Probably not possible due to the numbers involved.
We have over 10 times the volume of people. But yes it would be nice
they pay a monthly premium and huge taxes 40% for it.
I'd like an optional, tiered public healthcare system.

Replace the private investors with public investors, and you remove the conflicts of interest. Private insurance is there to make money, not make people healthy. I just don't see healthcare as the place to squeeze people.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#40115 Oct 9, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>You're wrong again. Most companies, when downsizing and laying people off, try to lay off some of the higher paid people who have been there the longest and keep those who are at or near minimum wage and a few supervisors. That's the only thing that makes economic sense and keeps companies from going under.
I think you're telling tales.
I haven't worked for "most companies" and therefore my statements are drawn from personal experience with the few (several) that had reason to lay people off. Of course, I've only worked in technical capacities. Bean counters and wannabe execs are probably a dime-a-dozen.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#40116 Oct 9, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Taxing someone 100% is what? What would you want , for Bill Gate to have to apply for food stamps?
Of course, Romney's plan is to tax himself at 0.83 percent.

That is ZERO.83 percent, not quite one percent.
While the middle class pays 28 percent.

And we still wait for you to identify ONE tax loophole.

One.

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