In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
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You find any WMDs yet, Booby?
Bush made decisions based on bad intelligence data. Getting good intelligence data out of closed Islamic societies / dictatorships is difficult at best. Who do you blame? Bush? The CIA? The State Department? My recollection of the atmosphere post-9/11 was impatience ... we wanted some asses kicked and soon. Bush obliged. I really think demonizing Bush and learning to tolerate / kiss Islam ass ain't the right move. Why don't we blame the crackpots who attacked us? What's wrong with that idea?

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Not really...Sterilization, contraceptive use and abortion, PLANNED PARENTHOOD, will keep the U.S. from going into savage, third world, breeding mode where women with capacious vaginal dimensions and zero education plus low IQs squirt out semen demons, miserable crotch droppings, into the streets...See third world CATHOLIC countries...Obama is absolutely right in the support of Planned Parenthood but he does not go far enough in encouraging a culture of contraception, sterilization and abortion....and that's where my LIBERTARIAN support ends. Until breeding practices are called into question, all else is white noise. Glory!
Wow. You have very interesting views and quite a way with words! Planned Parenthood sounds like common sense to me.

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Al Garcia wrote:
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What?!!!!!
(Al accidentally spits his coffee out in shock)
Nah uhh!!!!!
Pray Jesus takes your eyes Al.

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Well said indeed.
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<quoted text>Everyone already knew Buck was a Christian. There's no surprise there.

I asked those pointed questions for a reason, and I got the answer I expected. No fundie Christian wants anyone to have rights but them.

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Bush made decisions based on bad intelligence data.
Bad intelligence?

Bush & Cheney created the intelligence. When the CIA told them there wasn't anything there, they hadn't it back to them and insisted there was.

They then shopped the intelligence around Europe and said "hey, all these guys think there's WMDs and connections to Al Qaeda!"

The Bush War was created and timed EXACTLY for the 2004 election. The plan was: quick victory.

SLAM DUNK.

Ring a bell?

The cost of the wars was put on the next administration- and that was after cutting the taxes and after turning a budget surplus into a budget deficit.

Pick up a book, azzwipe. Well- as you have stated: you don't consider education your strongest suite.

Best you just leave, you aren't doing this country any favors by staying.

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RHill wrote:
My recollection of the atmosphere post-9/11 was impatience ... we wanted some asses kicked and soon. Bush obliged.
It is the racist bigoted dumphugs like yourself that manage to get this country into one war after another and rather than learn from the mistake (going back not even ten years) Romney is again ready to take this country into a war- willing to sacrifice young lives... except none in his family, of course... since no one in his family has ever served.

Ever.

Most pointedly, his dodging the draft in the 60s and telling that gee he sure wanted to serve... while chilling in France... though he certainly only needed to stop asking for deferments.

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It is the racist bigoted dumphugs like yourself that manage to get this country into one war after another and rather than learn from the mistake (going back not even ten years) Romney is again ready to take this country into a war- willing to sacrifice young lives... except none in his family, of course... since no one in his family has ever served.
Ever.
Most pointedly, his dodging the draft in the 60s and telling that gee he sure wanted to serve... while chilling in France... though he certainly only needed to stop asking for deferments.
Believe me ... there's no Romney stickers around here. He reminds me of a used car salesman.

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Bad intelligence?
Bush & Cheney created the intelligence. When the CIA told them there wasn't anything there, they hadn't it back to them and insisted there was.
They then shopped the intelligence around Europe and said "hey, all these guys think there's WMDs and connections to Al Qaeda!"
The Bush War was created and timed EXACTLY for the 2004 election. The plan was: quick victory.
SLAM DUNK.
Ring a bell?
The cost of the wars was put on the next administration- and that was after cutting the taxes and after turning a budget surplus into a budget deficit.
Pick up a book, azzwipe. Well- as you have stated: you don't consider education your strongest suite.
Best you just leave, you aren't doing this country any favors by staying.
Well, they certainly had SCUD missiles capable of delivering chemical, nuclear or biological warheads to Israel. You can't tell from satellite photos what kind of warheads are attached so you have to assume the worst. That's just common sense.

I've already left the country 40 or 50 times ... nothing improved. I'd be happy to visit your town thus increasing the average intelligence considerably, if only for a little while. I'm afraid their best hope for long term improvement involves you leaving.

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President Starky wrote:
Atheism is shrinking.
†ruth is that †here just aren't †hat many atheists in America.
Don't feel bad †hough, you're still protected under our Christian system of government and our constitution.
"Stuff's gettin better"
2012
Wow. Somebody else that likes that movie. Too bad it's a godbot.

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RHill wrote:
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Believe me ... there's no Romney stickers around here..
I don't believe you.

Lie to me once... shame on you.

Lie to me with every post: shame on me to believe anything you say.

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Well, they certainly had SCUD missiles
so what?

Israel has a couple hundred nuclear weapons and won't allow the international community to inspect them- like North Korea, and Israel has already threaten the US it would use them.

Bush (& Cheney) insisted they would find WMDs and they did not.

There were no WMDs.

If they had an ounce of honor, they would have resigned.

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so what?
Israel has a couple hundred nuclear weapons and won't allow the international community to inspect them- like North Korea, and Israel has already threaten the US it would use them.
Bush (& Cheney) insisted they would find WMDs and they did not.
There were no WMDs.
If they had an ounce of honor, they would have resigned.
Your antisemitism is showing ... again.

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Your antisemitism is showing ... again.
Do you know why the USA and the USSR were at DefConIII in 1973?

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I've already left the country 40 or 50 times ... nothing improved.
Don't come back.

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I'd be happy to visit your town thus increasing the average intelligence
As you yourself noted: your lack of education has hurt you some.

It shows.

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Your antisemitism is showing ... again.
so saying that israel got nukes and wants to use them on iran is antisemitism ?

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Do you know why the USA and the USSR were at DefConIII in 1973?
Hmmmmmm ... it was either the Yom Kippur War or the year they released the preliminary script for the movie Wargames.
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Mike N wrote:
Of course they are. Because believers are a danger to them. Believers do unspeakable things to those who don't think like them. Its bad enough that some humans are unkind to others but its worse when those humans use dark age mythology to justify it. Hopefully one day religion will cease in this world and people will operate on logic. That alone will change the world for the better.
In the nuclear age we don`t have enough time any more for a change from capitalism to socialism. Sorry that is the truth!

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so saying that israel got nukes and wants to use them on iran is antisemitism ?
Barefoot has accused me of antisemitism several times in the past ... turn-a-bout is fair play.

But yeah, statements like that make a small, beleaguered place like Israel seem like a dangerously armed rogue nation, going against international law and conventions in preparation for raining death on it's innocent neighbors. Surely you can detect a hint of anti-something in there.

I certainly would not presume to know if Israel has nuclear weapons, how many nor their intended target. History has shown that the IDF does not need nuclear weapons to kick Arab butt. Their neighbors are far from innocent and possess an irrational hatred for the Jews the intensity of which, few Americans fully appreciate.

Of course, we all know that Barefoot's education, intelligence sources and political acumen put him in a unique position for analyzing and making sweeping statements regarding the international political scene.
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Gods shoeshine wrote:
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hitler killed religious people he hated Christians and sent them to the camps
Hitler made deals with the pope. Hitler was a catholic. He never denounced his believe. The pope and the clergery prayed for the victory of the nazis.

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