In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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yes democracy two wolfs and a sheep voting on dinner. We are a republic look it up before calling me the idiot
Please quote where you saw me calling you an idiot

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Ah.

A good debate, Double Fine must admit.

Double Fine really has nothing against Romney. He *is* a fine capitalist and a good guv'nor.
He just has a nasty habit of saying something stupid at the spur of the moment (Double Fine calls this foot-in-mouth-disease). Although it can sometimes be a bit offensive (not to mention amusing), this does not mean that he will be a terrible president.

To be fair, the campaigning was turning ugly and Double Fine was glad to see none of that where-are-your-birth-certifica tes-oh-no-you-first-where-are- your-tax-statements.

None of that, no strawmen, no talking to chairs... Good, says Doube Fine.
The economic question is a simple one, but the answer is not. Will economic policy, even in a country as powerful as the US, be able to weather the storm that is the global economy?

To be honest, Double Fine does not think so. This is a storm that will rage for a few more years, no matter what anyone does.

Double Fine would like to see the following issues tackled in the upcoming debates:

- Gay marriage
- Education

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What Part Of They Took Billions In A Bailout And Sent It And Its Jobs Overseas, Dont You Get ?
I Am Paying For That Bailout, Against My And The Majorities Wishes.
Because You Dont Live Here And Havent A Clue, Let Me Educate You....Nothing That Comes In From Foreign Soil Is Worth A Crap....Worthless Junk. Nothing Compares To Americas Manufacturing Or Quality.
The Imbeciles That Have Run This Country Over The Last 20 Years Or So, Have Also Allowed Unfair Trade From China, Japan, ETC....
I Think O'le Hilary Actually Made The Call On Bin Laden While Urcle Hid In The Corner. But The Point Is, Without The Interrogation From The Bush Admin, The Location Of Osama Would Not Have Been Known. Now, I Believe Both Bush And Obammy Wanted To Let Him Live, And Im Not Sure Hes Even Dead. He Worked For The CIA, And Has Something On Them Because Clinton, Bush, And Obammy, Chose To Let Him Go.
The Truth Most Times Is Stranger Then Fiction.
Wrong. You ave no idea how business is done on the internationa; arena. It is all about capacity. What good is manufacturing something when you do not have the capacity for it? Do you want to pay more for the car, computer or sound system?

If GM (Or any company) wishes to sell their products to a global market, they must make themselves as competitive as possible. To think that you can manufacture every single component of the car (or computer, or television, or truck, or laptop) cheaper and more durable than anywhere else in the world is utterly stupid.

A simple case in point: Catalitic convertors. Where do they get made? Right here, in South Africa. Why? Because we produce 70%+ of the world's platinum.

Now, if you wanted to manufacture the catalytic convertors in the US, you first need to buy the raw material from us - platinum. Good luck. It is twice the price of gold. Then, the material needs to go to the US. Before you even have the material in the country, you are already paying much more for the raw material, much more for transport.

Raw material needs to be worked. So you need to build a platinum refinery first. Then, you need a manufacturing facility.

You need to build an entire infrastructure.

How expensive do you want to make the car? Want to bring out a competititor to a Toyota sedan, at the cost of n Aston Martin?

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No DF you are disillusioned the president of the US has little effect on world economy , other than a persona of fortune or misfortune. The Fed Reserve does though , they have everything to do with it. Of course if a president pushes and creates a war it has impact. But if there will be war party lines mean nothing, it's above them. War will happen if the conditions are there for war regardless of the controlling party at the time.
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Six words:
Leed-her-ship
Con-fuh-dince
Six Words:
OBAMA is a major Douche Bag

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Six Words:
OBAMA is a major Douche Bag
Aren't they all?

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Aren't they all?
yeah..

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>yeah..
Democracy: You get to choose the turd representing you

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Democracy: You get to choose the turd representing you
There just are enough John W. Boothes anymore.

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Are NOT Enough

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>There just are enough John W. Boothes anymore.
Lol.

Methinks that most statesmen must have a high BS percentage.

However, I believe in two components in a democracy:

1) The ruling party must not be too strong. If the Dems stuff up, the Republicans take over. And vice versa. Hold the ruling party to a high degree of service!

2) Never vote for a party with whose morals you do not align. If the party promotes values that does not sit well with you, well, don't vote for them.

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Lol.
Methinks that most statesmen must have a high BS percentage.
However, I believe in two components in a democracy:
1) The ruling party must not be too strong. If the Dems stuff up, the Republicans take over. And vice versa. Hold the ruling party to a high degree of service!
2) Never vote for a party with whose morals you do not align. If the party promotes values that does not sit well with you, well, don't vote for them.
This works too.
"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. "
Voltaire

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This works too.
"An ideal form of government is democracy tempered with assassination. "
Voltaire
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Please.
We *live* across the pond. We *live* in the world outside America. Seeing a stable Dollar by which we run our business is not propaganda.
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That's a stupid argument.
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Like the elderly, children and your troops?
Oh, okay.
Rational, responsible adults would take care of their own elderly and children. Those same rational adults know we have an obligation to care for those who defend us in battle. The system is breaking down because rational, responsible adults are not well represented in Washington.

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<quoted text> Violence is created by those who want violence , no filmmaker creates violence, they create films .
The film does not make people mad, people make themselves mad.
Some do not need a reason to be mad, the truth is if you are not in control of your actions then wth is?
People can say you made me mad, but the truth is.
We make ourselves mad no one else can control you like that, unless you have a very weak mind that is.
In the UK (and much of Europe) and most Muslim countries have laws of incitement.

People are responsible for their own actions. The filmmaker is responsible for making the film, he cannot just shrug his shoulders and say “so what, I was just exercising my right of free speech”. His film was made for one reason and one reason only, to incite hatred and violence. He has the duty to consider the effect his actions have on others that is what makes us human.

The people it offended and consequently went off and killed people are responsible for their actions, that is not to say that they were not provoked by that film.

You appear to be ignoring the cultural, religious and legal beliefs of more or less everywhere else in the world except America. I really thought that sort of thing was below you.

http://dawn.com/2012/09/30/defamation-of-reli...

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Rational, responsible adults would take care of their own elderly and children. Those same rational adults know we have an obligation to care for those who defend us in battle. The system is breaking down because rational, responsible adults are not well represented in Washington.
Yo mate!

I trust you are well.

Yes, rational, responsible adults who are able to.

What about those who has fallen on hard times, amigo?

Society must have a safety net. Hell, I am young. I am willing to bet that a risky investment may be my undoing. Is it fair to then be on the streets because of a stroke of misfortune?

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Neither the film maker or the film had anything to do with the violence.
Sorry you are against the First Amendment.
Any other parts of the Bill of Rights you want to do away with?
Or just when free speech doesn't suit you?
You are an idiot, and an apologist for muslim terrorists.
Congratulations.
There you go again butt (oops buck) making assumptions

Wrong, everyone is responsible for their actions, his action was making a film to incite hatred and violence, as I said to Aura he cannot just shrug his shoulders and say “so what”. I realise that you are of that opinion that he can, convicts usually are but that is not typical of human society. However I can completely understand why an ex con like you gets confused between bloody minded idiocy and responsibility.

Where did I say I was against the first amendment? All I have said about any amendment is that they are amendments to the “unalienable rights” offered in the constitution, which I find rather amusing.

I thought you had learned you lesson but no, you go round and round in circles just as the good butt crack should- So do you want to go into the name calling again you ignorant pratt of an apologist for paedophiles?

Nice one and best wishes

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In the UK (and much of Europe) and most Muslim countries have laws of incitement.
People are responsible for their own actions. The filmmaker is responsible for making the film, he cannot just shrug his shoulders and say “so what, I was just exercising my right of free speech”. His film was made for one reason and one reason only, to incite hatred and violence. He has the duty to consider the effect his actions have on others that is what makes us human.
The people it offended and consequently went off and killed people are responsible for their actions, that is not to say that they were not provoked by that film.
You appear to be ignoring the cultural, religious and legal beliefs of more or less everywhere else in the world except America. I really thought that sort of thing was below you.
http://dawn.com/2012/09/30/defamation-of-reli...

Have you seen the film? It is a stupid satire.
What is beneath me is the proposed censorship of the freedom of expression. As with your link here , I have to totally agree with Obama here.

"President Obama argued for absolute freedom of expression, asserting that he defended this right even for those who criticised him. He described the video as “disgusting” but condemned the violent reactions to it in the Muslim world especially the murder of the US ambassador in Libya. Obama opined that restraints on freedom of expression result in repression, particularly against minorities."

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Double Fine wrote:
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Democracy: You get to choose the turd representing you
I just want it to be over.

It's cloggin' up my Interwebs and my TV.

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<quoted text>There just are enough John W. Boothes anymore.
No, the current crop of actors is just awful.

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