In America, atheists are still in the closet

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So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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#39660 Oct 4, 2012
SupaAFC wrote:
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Nor should the twelth amendment that clearly states that the Electoral College, and only the Electoral College, votes for the president of the United States.
Yet, Barefoot claims that the people do.
Funny how you have to paraphrase every thing I say.

Funny what you claim I say never fits what I actually say.

I have NEVER said CITIZENS of the US vote directly for the president of the USA.

I know you are confused as you do not get any kind of vote for the head of sate in the UK. Not a direct vote, not an indirect vote, you get no vote whatsoever.

NONE.

As you get no vote for the larger half of the Parliament: none. ZERO.

And as you get no vote- NONE- for the Prime minister.

You get to vote for a MP in the lower house.

BTW: STILL WAITING FOR YOU TO BACK THAT CLAIM THAT YOU GET NO VOTE FOR MPS, sUPERfAG.

fUNNY HOW YOU KEEP SKIPPING OVER THAT.

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#39661 Oct 4, 2012
wolverine wrote:
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Polls Show a Strong Debate for Romney
If only draft dodger Romney got extra points for TV ratings.

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#39662 Oct 4, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Democracy: You get to choose the turd representing you
Maybe you want to go back to the a turd that represents a tiny minority of white people?

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#39663 Oct 4, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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In the UK (and much of Europe) and most Muslim countries have laws of incitement.
People are responsible for their own actions. The filmmaker is responsible for making the film, he cannot just shrug his shoulders and say “so what, I was just exercising my right of free speech”. His film was made for one reason and one reason only, to incite hatred and violence. He has the duty to consider the effect his actions have on others that is what makes us human.
The people it offended and consequently went off and killed people are responsible for their actions, that is not to say that they were not provoked by that film.
You appear to be ignoring the cultural, religious and legal beliefs of more or less everywhere else in the world except America. I really thought that sort of thing was below you.
http://dawn.com/2012/09/30/defamation-of-reli...

nobady died. i wonder why..

“There is no such thing”

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#39664 Oct 4, 2012

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#39665 Oct 4, 2012
RHill wrote:
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Rational, responsible adults would take care of their own elderly and children.
What planet are you on?

"Rational" responsible adults take care of themselves. SSI is something rational responsible adults have paid into for their working lives and 401Ks and IRAs pay for the the nicer things that SSI doesn't cover.

Children grow up and pay their own way.

There are occasions in many "rational" responsible adults lives where temporary circumstances they have no control over make it impossible to cover needs and that is what government is for.

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#39666 Oct 4, 2012
Aura Mytha wrote:
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Have you seen the film? It is a stupid satire.
It isn't.

It was created for the specific intent to inflame discord among Muslims.

I don't count NAZI propaganda films "satire" either.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#39667 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Maybe you want to go back to the a turd that represents a tiny minority of white people?
Nah.

Of SA's white presidents, I'll vote for a guy like De Klerk.

But most of the other were douches.

Smuts was okay, I suppose.

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#39668 Oct 4, 2012
Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=uWAkNr_gGh8XX
nobady died. i wonder why..
Poor Nobady.

God rest his soul

“There is no such thing”

Since: May 08

as a reasonable person

#39669 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Maybe you want to go back to the a turd that represents a tiny minority of white people?

“There's a feeling I get...”

Since: Jun 11

...when I look to the West

#39670 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What planet are you on?
"Rational" responsible adults take care of themselves. SSI is something rational responsible adults have paid into for their working lives and 401Ks and IRAs pay for the the nicer things that SSI doesn't cover.
Children grow up and pay their own way.
There are occasions in many "rational" responsible adults lives where temporary circumstances they have no control over make it impossible to cover needs and that is what government is for.
Yes. A bad investment, a car accident, bad insurance... Many things can go wrong. For such folks, should they go to the streets? Methinks not.

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#39671 Oct 4, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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I’m not bothered what it is, it is deeply offensive to over 1/3 of the worlds population and simply objectionable to most other people. It breaks laws in the majority of countries in the world. It was made fraudulently with dubbed vocals with the sole intention of inciting hatred. And for this you do not think the filmmaker was responsible for making his film?
Tell me if your next door neighbour walked up to your house and crapped on the doorstep would you consider joe bloggs in the next town responsible or the neighbour who befouled your step responsible?
I was hoping you would read that link as a whole and consider the whole document, not just a selective part of a paragraph. It goes a long way do explaining and understanding the divide between the west and the Muslim world.
The difference is the muslim world is full of stupid, hate-filled, homicidal maniacs.

The film was legal and inoffensive to anyone other than a moron.

It doesn't matter what is illegal in another country. The film was made in this country. Going 70 in a 70 zone on the interstate is not breaking the law because other roads have a limit of 55.

You are stupid, and a muslim terrorist apologist.

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#39672 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What planet are you on?
"Rational" responsible adults take care of themselves. SSI is something rational responsible adults have paid into for their working lives and 401Ks and IRAs pay for the the nicer things that SSI doesn't cover.
Children grow up and pay their own way.
There are occasions in many "rational" responsible adults lives where temporary circumstances they have no control over make it impossible to cover needs and that is what government is for.
__________

Wrong.

On average, Social Security recipients receive more in benefits over their lifetimes than they and their employers contributed in taxes during their working years.

The system functions only because there are enough current workers making additional payments into the fund.

This is why Social Security as a giant pyramid scheme. Madoff ring a bell?

You never get anything right, do you?

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#39674 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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If only draft dodger Romney got extra points for TV ratings.
He didn't dodge any draft.

You are a stupid, lying liberal.

I can smell you from here.

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#39675 Oct 4, 2012
barefoot2626 wrote:
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What planet are you on?
"Rational" responsible adults take care of themselves. SSI is something rational responsible adults have paid into for their working lives and 401Ks and IRAs pay for the the nicer things that SSI doesn't cover.
Children grow up and pay their own way.
There are occasions in many "rational" responsible adults lives where temporary circumstances they have no control over make it impossible to cover needs and that is what government is for.
No, that's not what government is for. At least not in this country.

Look it up. Take a class. Hell, you're hopelessly stupid.

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#39676 Oct 4, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
Ah.
A good debate, Double Fine must admit.
Double Fine really has nothing against Romney. He *is* a fine capitalist and a good guv'nor.
He just has a nasty habit of saying something stupid at the spur of the moment (Double Fine calls this foot-in-mouth-disease). Although it can sometimes be a bit offensive (not to mention amusing), this does not mean that he will be a terrible president.
To be fair, the campaigning was turning ugly and Double Fine was glad to see none of that where-are-your-birth-certifica tes-oh-no-you-first-where-are- your-tax-statements.
None of that, no strawmen, no talking to chairs... Good, says Doube Fine.
The economic question is a simple one, but the answer is not. Will economic policy, even in a country as powerful as the US, be able to weather the storm that is the global economy?
To be honest, Double Fine does not think so. This is a storm that will rage for a few more years, no matter what anyone does.
Double Fine would like to see the following issues tackled in the upcoming debates:
- Gay marriage
- Education
Do you want them to debate who gets to throw the boquet?

You're an idiot.

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#39677 Oct 4, 2012
ChristineM wrote:
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There you go again butt (oops buck) making assumptions
Wrong, everyone is responsible for their actions, his action was making a film to incite hatred and violence, as I said to Aura he cannot just shrug his shoulders and say “so what”. I realise that you are of that opinion that he can, convicts usually are but that is not typical of human society. However I can completely understand why an ex con like you gets confused between bloody minded idiocy and responsibility.
Where did I say I was against the first amendment? All I have said about any amendment is that they are amendments to the “unalienable rights” offered in the constitution, which I find rather amusing.
I thought you had learned you lesson but no, you go round and round in circles just as the good butt crack should- So do you want to go into the name calling again you ignorant pratt of an apologist for paedophiles?
Nice one and best wishes
The first 10 amendments are the "Bill of Rights". The amendments are protective of rights, they don't "amend" rights.

You are empty-headed. You should never comment on rights or the Constitution.

Stick to something you know...if there is such a subject.

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#39678 Oct 4, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
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The difference is the muslim world is full of stupid, hate-filled, homicidal maniacs.
That is no different from your house, fat boy.

Nor is it any different from the Christian world.

“I started out with nothing”

Since: Nov 10

and still got most of it left

#39679 Oct 4, 2012
Double Fine wrote:
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Double Fine no savvy
We are discussing that anti Muslim film and whether a person is responsible for their own actions or not.

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#39680 Oct 4, 2012
Buck Crick wrote:
On average, Social Security recipients receive more in benefits over their lifetimes than they and their employers contributed in taxes during their working years.
Nope.

And according to your favorite source, FOX "news"

"People retiring today are part of the first generation of workers who have paid more in Social Security taxes during their careers than they will receive in benefits after they retire. It's a historic shift that will only get worse for future retirees, according to an analysis by The Associated Press.

Previous generations got a much better bargain, mainly because payroll taxes were very low when Social Security was enacted in the 1930s and remained so for decades.

"For the early generations, it was an incredibly good deal," said Andrew Biggs, a former deputy Social Security commissioner who is now a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute. "The government gave you free money and getting free money is popular."

If you retired in 1960, you could expect to get back seven times more in benefits than you paid in Social Security taxes, and more if you were a low-income worker, as long you made it to age 78 for men and 81 for women.

As recently as 1985, workers at every income level could retire and expect to get more in benefits than they paid in Social Security taxes, though they didn't do quite as well as their parents and grandparents.

Not anymore.

A married couple retiring last year, after both spouses earned average lifetime wages, paid about $598,000 in Social Security taxes during their careers. They can expect to collect about $556,000 in benefits if the man lives to 82 and the woman lives to 85, according to a 2011 study by the Urban Institute, a Washington think tank.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/08/07/ne...
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