In America, atheists are still in the closet

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Spiked

So do many other interest and identity groups. Complaint is our political lingua franca: it's what Occupiers, Tea Partiers, Wall Street titans, religious and irreligious people share.

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Take the anti-atheist legislation that exists in various state constitutions. Are these laws in place? Yes, they certainly are.
Has there been a Supreme Court ruling saying that they are unconstitutional?

Why, yes there is. Posted long ago.

Does KowKow understand that unconstitutional laws cannot be enforced?

Apparently not.

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<quoted text>Yep. Democracy, where a white vote counts as much as a black one, where a gay vote counts as much as a straight one, where a Christian vote counts as much as a Muslim one.

Horrible concept, right?
yes democracy two wolfs and a sheep voting on dinner. We are a republic look it up before calling me the idiot

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It's the fact that we are a republic that grants gays the same rights as heteros a democracy would favor the majority that doesn't have Wicca books and fairy posters in her room at age 43

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Unjust laws should not be followed.
"One who breaks an unjust law that conscience tells him is unjust, and who willingly accepts the penalty of imprisonment in order to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the highest respect for law."
-Martin Luther King, Jr.
Ah well, there goes pretty much all religion.

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Has there been a Supreme Court ruling saying that they are unconstitutional?
Why, yes there is. Posted long ago.
Does KowKow understand that unconstitutional laws cannot be enforced?
Apparently not.
Wrong.

Unconstitutional laws can be and are enforced all the time.

Example: ObamaCare

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Wrong.
Unconstitutional laws can be and are enforced all the time.
Example: ObamaCare
Bucky, Good to see you're alive and well. Where the hell you been? There was a rumor going around that Fountain and PeeBob dropped a 200 lb. anvil on your head as a practical joke.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Propaganda?
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-mi...
http://news.sky.com/story/987153/has-romney-h...
OK now lets look at the dollar against the pound for the last 10 years
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/...
Can you see a pattern of how it was rapidly getting screwed and worthless until the stabilising influence of this administration?
Ask the filmmaker if his policy of hatred yielded the results he expected. Obama DID not realise that film, Obama cannot be blamed for releasing that film. Obama cannot be blamed for inciting hatred. Although I could never condone violence (unlike you) I do believe that people are responsible for their actions so lets think who actually is RESPONSIBLE for releasing that film, was it the filmmaker or was it the president?
Funnily enough that half also have the vote, thatís democracy for ya.
Neither the film maker or the film had anything to do with the violence.

Sorry you are against the First Amendment.

Any other parts of the Bill of Rights you want to do away with?

Or just when free speech doesn't suit you?

You are an idiot, and an apologist for muslim terrorists.

Congratulations.

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Buck Crick wrote:
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Wrong.
Unconstitutional laws can be and are enforced all the time.
Example: ObamaCare
When you get elected Queen of the United States, you get to dismiss SCOTUS and say constitutional laws are unconstitutional, Fatty.
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Wow, do you want to credit the successful termination of Bin Laden to William Colt as well? How about the ancient Chinese, who invented gunpowder?
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You have no idea how international business work. GM was able to exploit markets in China, Russia and Korea. I would know.
Do you, as Republican doubt the value of foreign valuta entering your borders? I am not surprised
What Part Of They Took Billions In A Bailout And Sent It And Its Jobs Overseas, Dont You Get ?

I Am Paying For That Bailout, Against My And The Majorities Wishes.

Because You Dont Live Here And Havent A Clue, Let Me Educate You....Nothing That Comes In From Foreign Soil Is Worth A Crap....Worthless Junk. Nothing Compares To Americas Manufacturing Or Quality.

The Imbeciles That Have Run This Country Over The Last 20 Years Or So, Have Also Allowed Unfair Trade From China, Japan, ETC....

I Think O'le Hilary Actually Made The Call On Bin Laden While Urcle Hid In The Corner. But The Point Is, Without The Interrogation From The Bush Admin, The Location Of Osama Would Not Have Been Known. Now, I Believe Both Bush And Obammy Wanted To Let Him Live, And Im Not Sure Hes Even Dead. He Worked For The CIA, And Has Something On Them Because Clinton, Bush, And Obammy, Chose To Let Him Go.

The Truth Most Times Is Stranger Then Fiction.

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From this side of the pond, you are sadly mistaken.

No DF you are disillusioned the president of the US has little effect on world economy , other than a persona of fortune or misfortune. The Fed Reserve does though , they have everything to do with it. Of course if a president pushes and creates a war it has impact. But if there will be war party lines mean nothing, it's above them. War will happen if the conditions are there for war regardless of the controlling party at the time.

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ChristineM wrote:
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Propaganda?
http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-mi...
http://news.sky.com/story/987153/has-romney-h...
OK now lets look at the dollar against the pound for the last 10 years
http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/...
Can you see a pattern of how it was rapidly getting screwed and worthless until the stabilising influence of this administration?
Ask the filmmaker if his policy of hatred yielded the results he expected. Obama DID not realise that film, Obama cannot be blamed for releasing that film. Obama cannot be blamed for inciting hatred. Although I could never condone violence (unlike you) I do believe that people are responsible for their actions so lets think who actually is RESPONSIBLE for releasing that film, was it the filmmaker or was it the president?
Funnily enough that half also have the vote, thatís democracy for ya.
Violence is created by those who want violence , no filmmaker creates violence, they create films .
The film does not make people mad, people make themselves mad.
Some do not need a reason to be mad, the truth is if you are not in control of your actions then wth is?
People can say you made me mad, but the truth is.
We make ourselves mad no one else can control you like that, unless you have a very weak mind that is.

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Lil Ticked wrote:
<quoted text>Romney is an idiot with idiot policies. Obamacare is a national version of Romneycare.
Heath care by the government is nothing but a source of revenue top the government AKA a tax without saying it's a tax. another way to get your money , nothing more.

If it was so good why did they (congress and senate as well as the president are exempt from it) make themselves exempt from it.
because it's a tax not a cure or help.

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wolverine wrote:
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What Part Of They Took Billions In A Bailout And Sent It And Its Jobs Overseas, Dont You Get ?
What Part Of You Are A Lying C/S And You Don't Know What You Are talking About Don'tcha Get?

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Aura Mytha wrote:
<quoted text> Violence is created by those who want violence , no filmmaker creates violence, they create films .
The entire purpose of the "film" was to incite violence.

Period.

It was not an art film.

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<quoted text> Heath care by the government is nothing but a source of revenue top the government AKA
If you are a child who is sick and your mother is trying to decide if she should take you to the emergency room or not because she can't afford a doctor... not so much.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
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The entire purpose of the "film" was to incite violence.
Period.
It was not an art film.
Supposing it was? Then they fell for it...weak minds fall for the traps designed for them.
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Although when it suits barefoot, he will look to the actions rather then the literal letter of the law.
Take the anti-atheist legislation that exists in various state constitutions. Are these laws in place? Yes, they certainly are.
Using barefoot's logic, that's as far as it goes. The fact that in practice they aren't used, shouldn't count for anything.
Nor should the twelth amendment that clearly states that the Electoral College, and only the Electoral College, votes for the president of the United States.

Yet, Barefoot claims that the people do.
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What Part Of You Are A Lying C/S And You Don't Know What You Are talking About Don'tcha Get?
C/S...????

Im Guessing A Juvenile Insult By An Uckleite ?
Long Live The Muslim Dumbo, And The Socialist Way.
You Have A Big Mouth, Lucky For You Im Well Endowed.
Gagster.
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barefoot2626 wrote:
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The entire purpose of the "film" was to incite violence.
Period.
It was not an art film.
The Film Was Out 8 Months Ago....Its An Excuse For A Group Of Twisted Idiots To Incite Violence. They Burn Or Flags And Behead People.....The Entire Middle East Should Become A Permanent Parking Lot Made Out Of Glass.
F--k Them, F--k You
Idiots Need To Stay Together
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You "demonstrated" the members of the House of Common had the power to dissolve Parliament for ten days before finally admitting that you were wrong.
Nice try at switching the focus of my post.

My post was speaking about -your- claims (and nobody buys that you "really" meant the Lords or you would have explicitly said so) that the CoE appoints MPs.

They don't. They don't appoint anybody.

Is this "you were wrong about the Queen not dissolving parliament!" the only thing you can parrot? AFC fans are derided for living in the team's glorious period in the 1980s; you are fastly going down that route.
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And of course, I pointed out that you were wrong minutes after you posted it.
Why anybody would admit this is beyond me.

Life. Get one.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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And you confused the House of Commons with the Lords, not me.
When you say "members of parliament" expect it to be interpreted as MPs.

I still maintain that you knew exactly what you were doing here and meant both chambers.
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And you insisted you voted for people that you never voted for.
I never claimed that we voted for anyone other than MPs. It took until I demonstrated that the CoE plays no role in appointing MPs to the Commons before you started claiming that you meant the Lords and only the Lords.

To normal people, that is moving the goalposts.
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I merely pointed out that you lied.
We have established that you do not know what lies are. Like Buck, you think lies are false statements made on ignorance.

Lies are intentional statements with the purpose of deception. Never would I lie, let alone on a trivial internet forum.
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Tell us, darling: WHO APPOINTS THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF LORDS?
It doesn't take three paragraphs, it can been done with one word.
If you have ignored my reference from Wiki twice before, what good is citing it for a third time?

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