In America, atheists are still in the...

In America, atheists are still in the closet

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wolverine

Greeley, CO

#36867 Aug 26, 2012
Government Has Not Stayed out Of Religion. In fact, Governments Duties Are Limited, But They Do Everything But Stay With-in Those Powers.

Another Fact Is.. They Neither Protect The Constitution From All Enimies Foriegn And Domestic,
Nor Carry out Their Duties.

In Our History, This Bunch Would Be Tried For Treason.

Hell, They Dont Even Protect The Borders....But They Demand You Buy Their Health Care, Which Was Passed Without The Support OF America. And Try To Force Their Believes Upon The Religious, Against Their Will.

NO....This Country Was, Has, And Always Will Be A Majority Of Christians....Pray They Dont Get Pissed

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

#36868 Aug 26, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Government Has Not Stayed out Of Religion. In fact, Governments Duties Are Limited, But They Do Everything But Stay With-in Those Powers.
Another Fact Is.. They Neither Protect The Constitution From All Enimies Foriegn And Domestic,
Nor Carry out Their Duties.
In Our History, This Bunch Would Be Tried For Treason.
Hell, They Dont Even Protect The Borders....But They Demand You Buy Their Health Care, Which Was Passed Without The Support OF America. And Try To Force Their Believes Upon The Religious, Against Their Will.
NO....This Country Was, Has, And Always Will Be A Majority Of Christians....Pray They Dont Get Pissed
When religions are run like corporations, then the government should get involved.

“Blue Collar Philosopher”

Since: Nov 08

Texas, USA

#36869 Aug 26, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Government Has Not Stayed out Of Religion. In fact, Governments Duties Are Limited, But They Do Everything But Stay With-in Those Powers.
Another Fact Is.. They Neither Protect The Constitution From All Enimies Foriegn And Domestic,
Nor Carry out Their Duties.
In Our History, This Bunch Would Be Tried For Treason.
Hell, They Dont Even Protect The Borders....But They Demand You Buy Their Health Care, Which Was Passed Without The Support OF America. And Try To Force Their Believes Upon The Religious, Against Their Will.
NO....This Country Was, Has, And Always Will Be A Majority Of Christians....Pray They Dont Get Pissed
Why? What they gonna do? Turn the other cheek? Ohhhhhhhh ... I'm scared!!!

Since: Mar 11

Ft Mitchell, KY

#36870 Aug 26, 2012
Lol! Awesome
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>A friend of mine who had been in the 1st Armor Cav Div in the Army described their division badge as...

"The horses they never rode, the line they never held and the yellow for the stripe down their backs."
Monkey's Paw

United States

#36871 Aug 26, 2012
wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>Boot Camp And Training At Pendleton

Father And Brother Were Both Jarheads
Keeping in the family nice.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36872 Aug 26, 2012
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
actually, he was a deist.
Somehow, before the day is over, some fundie will turn him into a Christian.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36873 Aug 26, 2012
RHill wrote:
<quoted text>
Makes me want to repeat our Naval Communicator motto ...
"We are the unwilling, led by the incompetent, to do the unnecessary, for the ungrateful".
Of course ... that was when they (we) had the Draft. The Navy was the "go to" service if you didn't relish becoming a Vietnam bound ground-pounder. Truly, history has shown that particular Patriotic Spasm, that skirmish in the Fight to Stop Communism, was a tragic act of futility. EVERYONE knows our REAL enemies are Muslims, Atheists, Gay people and the hordes of illegal immigrants. Everyone knows.
OMG! A person from TX who isn't a fundamentalist terrorist!

Welcome aboard.
Monkey's Paw

United States

#36874 Aug 26, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Hollywood Marine, eh?

SORRY!
Yes I know that saying too.
It's the Parris Island boot camp that calls the Pendleton boot campers that.
Parris Island is full of snakes and bugs but Hollywood Marines have to run and hike the hills. A real killer.
So Malakal is a Parris Island and Wolverine is Pendleton. What are you?
You sound like an East Coast.

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36876 Aug 26, 2012
wolverine wrote:
Government Has Not Stayed out Of Religion. In fact, Governments Duties Are Limited, But They Do Everything But Stay With-in Those Powers.
Another Fact Is.. They Neither Protect The Constitution From All Enimies Foriegn And Domestic,
Nor Carry out Their Duties.
In Our History, This Bunch Would Be Tried For Treason.
Hell, They Dont Even Protect The Borders....But They Demand You Buy Their Health Care, Which Was Passed Without The Support OF America. And Try To Force Their Believes Upon The Religious, Against Their Will.
NO....This Country Was, Has, And Always Will Be A Majority Of Christians....Pray They Dont Get Pissed
From what I'm seeing on Topix and the US group that watches terrorist groups in this country, they are angry. And they have been for a long time. That's because they can't kill at will anyone who doesn't believe as they do.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#36877 Aug 26, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>Somehow, before the day is over, some fundie will turn him into a Christian.
Born-again, come nightfall?
Monkey's Paw

United States

#36878 Aug 26, 2012
Darwins Stepchild wrote:
<quoted text>Ridiculous statement, considering that most of the Founders were students of history, and the 30 Years War was fairly recent history to them (about like the Civil War is for us...that is, we still get in arguments over it).

The 30 Years War was largely due to religious influence on government and it devastated central Europe. So, yes, the Founders were very interested in keeping religion out of government (as well as keeping government out of religion). BTW, there are some place, such as Northern Ireland, where they STILL are fighting that battle 350 years later.

Your statement is the type of ignorance that perpetuates with fundamentalists...thinking reality somehow conforms to what you wish was true.

You should be thankful that religion IS kept out of our government, because the odds of YOUR religion being the one in power is very small. Then YOU would be the heretic and the one being discriminated against.

Better for all to have it the way it is...no government in religion AND no religion in government.
IN GOD WE TRUST

ONE NATION UNDER GOD

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#36879 Aug 26, 2012
[QUOTE who="Monkey's Paw"]<quoted text>
Yes I know that saying too.
It's the Parris Island boot camp that calls the Pendleton boot campers that.
Parris Island is full of snakes and bugs but Hollywood Marines have to run and hike the hills. A real killer.
So Malakal is a Parris Island and Wolverine is Pendleton. What are you?
You sound like an East Coast.[/QUOTE]No, I've never been in the military. Only I've worked with a lot of Marines, back in the day.
Picked up some of the jargon.

“H-o-o-o-o-o-o-ld on thar!”

Since: Sep 08

The Borderland of Sol

#36880 Aug 26, 2012
Okay, what happened there?

“Wrath”

Since: Dec 10

Is revenant

#36881 Aug 26, 2012
water_nymph wrote:
<quoted text>OMG! A person from TX who isn't a fundamentalist terrorist!
Welcome aboard.
He may be in danger? Invidor is from Texas he must have a bomb shelter to hide in?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36882 Aug 26, 2012
[QUOTE who="Monkey's Paw"]<quoted text>
Yes I know that saying too.
It's the Parris Island boot camp that calls the Pendleton boot campers that.
Parris Island is full of snakes and bugs but Hollywood Marines have to run and hike the hills. A real killer.
So Malakal is a Parris Island and Wolverine is Pendleton. What are you?
You sound like an East Coast.[/QUOTE]Now that's funny, I don't care who you are. Mac is from Ireland. Try living through what that country has since he was born and you might actually toughen up some.

You sound like Buck, telling people your size and how strong you are, etc.

We have no idea whether you are 6'4" or 5' 8". You can be a big, strong man on Topix all day long and nobody will know for sure.

Most people who brag about their size, their fitness or their looks are just less-than-average joes in real life.
Monkey's Paw

United States

#36883 Aug 26, 2012
Aerobatty wrote:
<quoted text>It's a good thing that doesn't go by state size.
What?

Not by size?

Are you kidding me?

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36884 Aug 26, 2012
macumazahn wrote:
<quoted text>Born-again, come nightfall?
You can almost bet on it.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#36885 Aug 26, 2012
[QUOTE who="Monkey's Paw"]<quoted text>
IN GOD WE TRUST
ONE NATION UNDER GOD
[/QUOTE]

both of which had nothing to do with the founding fathers and the ideals of this country.

If you were actually a student of American History, you would know both phrases were added to our money in the fifties during the height of the cold war.

You may also learn some day that during this same era we had the McCarthyism

you know where free speech, political association and trial by jury were eliminated for those who weren't politically correct with the conservatives
Monkey's Paw

United States

#36886 Aug 26, 2012
RHill wrote:
It's an "all volunteer" military now and somehow the character of it all seems changed. The draft is "bad" and all that, but ... shouldn't you HAVE to be forced to go to war? To kill? How is the programming on our young people better or different than what goes into a good Jihadist? The end result is pretty much the same.

I've only met one young man that has gone to Iraq/Afghanistan multiple times and he kind of creeps me out. I think he likes it.
War is hell, you have to kill or be killed.
The United States use to never start wars we ended them. Today we can no longer say that. Were we wrong?

I will not answer that because only time will tell.

Thank you for serving!

“Live Love Laugh”

Since: Aug 07

Rings of Saturn Emporium

#36887 Aug 26, 2012
[QUOTE who="Monkey's Paw"]<quoted text>
IN GOD WE TRUST
ONE NATION UNDER GOD
[/QUOTE] In God We Trust was never on money until 1956.
One Nation Under God was never in the Pledge of Allegiance until 1954.

One Nation Under God'
Published: June 27, 2002
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"Half a century ago, at the height of anti-Communist fervor, Congress added the words ''under God'' to the Pledge of Allegiance. It was a petty attempt to link patriotism with religious piety, to distinguish us from the godless Soviets. But after millions of repetitions over the years, the phrase has become part of the backdrop of American life, just like the words ''In God We Trust'' on our coins and ''God bless America'' uttered by presidents at the end of important speeches.

Yesterday, the United States Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit in California ruled 2 to 1 that those words in the pledge violate the First Amendment, which says that ''Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.'' The majority sided with Michael Newdow, who had complained that his daughter is injured when forced to listen to public school teachers lead students daily in a pledge that includes the assertion that there is a God."

http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/27/opinion/one...

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