In America, atheists are still in the closet

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Mike N

New City, NY

#1 Apr 12, 2012
Of course they are. Because believers are a danger to them. Believers do unspeakable things to those who don't think like them. Its bad enough that some humans are unkind to others but its worse when those humans use dark age mythology to justify it. Hopefully one day religion will cease in this world and people will operate on logic. That alone will change the world for the better.

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QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#2 Apr 12, 2012
3:27 pm, Thursday, April 12, 2012:
RE: In America, atheists are still in the closet
..... Mike N, "To change the world for the better" it is necessary to ignore beliefs, and instead concentrate on BEHAVIOR! If, for example, EVERYBODY on this planet would at all times do what Jesus was requiring of his followers, then that would "change the world for the better"
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#3 Apr 12, 2012
With the increased activities of atheists in America, we have seen nothing less than the diminishing of charities, killing millions of innocents for convenience, destruction of families, increased use of drugs, widespread STDs, confused and desperate youth. What more could such a destructive belief system bring us?... Maybe an eradication of 1/3 of all words in our dictionaries and more urine soaked atheist art.

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“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#4 Apr 12, 2012
With the addition of "god" in our Pledge and on our money, we have seen nothing less than the diminishing of charities, killing millions of innocents for convenience, destruction of families, increased use of drugs, widespread STDs, confused and desperate youth. What more could such a destructive belief system bring us?... Maybe instead of flying men to the moon, we'll be flying them into buildings.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#5 Apr 12, 2012
Im a 17 year old girl, proud atheist from the UK and iv never used drugs, i drink once a months at most and never go so far to get drunk, never been in trouble with the police and im top of my course in college, so how dare you say it`s all athiests fault for being out of hand and wild.

your confusing the Atheists with the Non-Beilevers.

Atheists: research to find out what they agree and disagree with, hence why it is called a religion in most places, because it takes time and faith in what the person chooses.

And

Non-Beilevers: They don`t care, they don`t bother to seek meanings of man kind and if there is a god or not, they get on with there lives, and if you ask them they wont be able to explain why they dont beileve, they just don`t.
Mike N

New City, NY

#6 Apr 12, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
With the increased activities of atheists in America, we have seen nothing less than the diminishing of charities, killing millions of innocents for convenience, destruction of families, increased use of drugs, widespread STDs, confused and desperate youth. What more could such a destructive belief system bring us?... Maybe an eradication of 1/3 of all words in our dictionaries and more urine soaked atheist art.
Show me proof that the people doing all of this are doing it because of atheism or because they themselves are atheists. On ratio alone the majority of the people doing this are not atheists but they may be weak minded believers who need their hand held by a priest on how to be a moral person because they are to stupid to figure it out for themselves. Most atheist are more moral than most believers ever hope to be.
Bringmedinner

San Jose, CA

#7 Apr 12, 2012
Atheists are such posers. They insist on telling little children their dead parent, or sibling is worm food and then making fun of them when they cry. Atheists are sick to the core they can't find.

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Bringmedinner

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#8 Apr 12, 2012
Mike N wrote:
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Show me proof that the people doing all of this are doing it because of atheism or because they themselves are atheists. On ratio alone the majority of the people doing this are not atheists but they may be weak minded believers who need their hand held by a priest on how to be a moral person because they are to stupid to figure it out for themselves. Most atheist are more moral than most believers ever hope to be.
Atheists have no basis for morality of any sort. Anything they adhere to as morality is something they have accepted, or mindlessly absorbed from their religious heritages. Some wordy atheists have struggled endlessly to establish a basis for morality and have always failed miserably.

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“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#9 Apr 12, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
Atheists are such posers. They insist on telling little children their dead parent, or sibling is worm food and then making fun of them when they cry. Atheists are sick to the core they can't find.
You don`t have to be an Atheist to be a bully, since it`s obviouse that your not yet your being highly offensive to all Atheist yet any person with common sense knows to the judge a whole group of people just by a single member
Mike N

New City, NY

#10 Apr 12, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
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Atheists have no basis for morality of any sort. Anything they adhere to as morality is something they have accepted, or mindlessly absorbed from their religious heritages. Some wordy atheists have struggled endlessly to establish a basis for morality and have always failed miserably.
How do you know? You are not an atheist. Nobody said the morals taught in religion aren't good morals. But those morals come from human thought not from god. Organized religion teaches them but didn't invent them. Look at the rest of the animal kingdom. Intelligent creatures like elephants, lions, dolphins and so many other animals show plenty of moral behavior all the time. Morals come from intelligence not from a god.

You are simply a closed minded believer who thinks its your way or the highway.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#11 Apr 12, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
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Atheists have no basis for morality of any sort. Anything they adhere to as morality is something they have accepted, or mindlessly absorbed from their religious heritages. Some wordy atheists have struggled endlessly to establish a basis for morality and have always failed miserably.
Your confused thast an agnostic, not atheist, as atheists know full well what they beileve in.
Reason

Berea, OH

#12 Apr 12, 2012
Mike N wrote:
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Show me proof that the people doing all of this are doing it because of atheism or because they themselves are atheists. On ratio alone the majority of the people doing this are not atheists but they may be weak minded believers who need their hand held by a priest on how to be a moral person because they are to stupid to figure it out for themselves. Most atheist are more moral than most believers ever hope to be.
Atheists may very well be not directly doing any of the above. However, pushing God out of our system is handing control to Satan. There is nothing that can be done to stop it completely. Returning to God in large numbers and asking HIM to return His blessing and battle evil on our behalf can slow the process.
Mike N

New City, NY

#13 Apr 12, 2012
Bringmedinner wrote:
Atheists are such posers. They insist on telling little children their dead parent, or sibling is worm food and then making fun of them when they cry. Atheists are sick to the core they can't find.
Why are you being stupid.

As an atheist I will tell my children that people they love that die will always remain in their heart and mind.

On the other hand you as the believer clearly show lack of morals by your posting. You just proved how immoral and intolerant believers can be.
Reason

Berea, OH

#14 Apr 12, 2012
Hedonist wrote:
With the addition of "god" in our Pledge and on our money, we have seen nothing less than the diminishing of charities, killing millions of innocents for convenience, destruction of families, increased use of drugs, widespread STDs, confused and desperate youth. What more could such a destructive belief system bring us?... Maybe instead of flying men to the moon, we'll be flying them into buildings.
Rhetoric. Stop being insulting to peoples intelligence. God was "added" to our culture from the beginning. We saw a couple centuries of growth, success, and global leadership because of it.
Now, non-belief and misguided believers have allowed sin and evil to corrupt our country.
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#15 Apr 12, 2012
4:14 pm, Thursday, April 12, 2012:
RE: In America, atheists are still in the closet
..... All over this planet many people have had, and still have, religious experiences including "God" or gods or spirits, but because these experiences differ from what the conventional clergy teach these people are called by clergy and others "Atheists".
Mike N

New City, NY

#16 Apr 12, 2012
Reason wrote:
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Atheists may very well be not directly doing any of the above. However, pushing God out of our system is handing control to Satan. There is nothing that can be done to stop it completely. Returning to God in large numbers and asking HIM to return His blessing and battle evil on our behalf can slow the process.
No the problem isn't because "god" is being pushed out of our system. Its a combination of things a major one being the breakdown of the family unit and financial difficulty none which have nothing to do with god, other than for the weakminded who as I said need their hand held in order to hang onto good morals. If god is needed why are there so many solid atheist families with well adjusted children.
HTS

Englewood, CO

#17 Apr 12, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
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Your confused thast an agnostic, not atheist, as atheists know full well what they beileve in.
The may believe in a moral ode but they cannot describe why they allow their conscience to have any control over their behavior.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#18 Apr 12, 2012
Reason wrote:
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Atheists may very well be not directly doing any of the above. However, pushing God out of our system is handing control to Satan. There is nothing that can be done to stop it completely. Returning to God in large numbers and asking HIM to return His blessing and battle evil on our behalf can slow the process.
our speaking as if god is real, when know one knows for sure if there is or not, so your incorrect
Reason

Berea, OH

#19 Apr 12, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
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Your confused thast an agnostic, not atheist, as atheists know full well what they beileve in.
I think you misunderstood the statement. I understood the commentator to say mean that morals and values come from Godliness. Atheists who do have a basic concept of moral behavior have learned it from their Godly heritage. However, as newer generations of "Atheists" emerge, their knowledge of good is diminished substantially. Thus causing less and less ability to fully understand morality. Their moral value system is damaged. True goodness is a concept that is cannot be comprehended by Atheists who have never been exposed to Godliness. Professed believers who do not practice godliness are susceptible to the same fate.
Mike N

New City, NY

#20 Apr 12, 2012
Reason wrote:
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Rhetoric. Stop being insulting to peoples intelligence. God was "added" to our culture from the beginning. We saw a couple centuries of growth, success, and global leadership because of it.
Now, non-belief and misguided believers have allowed sin and evil to corrupt our country.
All we have seen over the last 5000 years are wars and destruction and violence in the name of religion. Our countrys prosperity had nothing to do with god other than the fact that it was mostly inhabited by people of the christian faith. Non belief does not automatically mean evil or sin. Thats the problem, believers can't seem to grasp the concept that to be a good person you don't have to believer in sky fairies.

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