Helsinki, Finland |
#1
Jan 3, 2012
This has to be:
"I don't believe anything without evidence" Then they post another message: "I believe no gods exist" That's the very definition of irrational thinking. Many of these funny atheists also say: "Nonexistence of evidence is evidence of nonexistence" Can you believe these yahoos? ;) |
“ecrasez l'infame” Since: May 08
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#2
Jan 3, 2012
Cite your references please.
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Helsinki, Finland |
#3
Jan 4, 2012
Do you believe that God that is NOT contradictory to rational and logical reasoning can NOT exist? If you do, what is your evidence that survives rational/logical philosophical inspection? :) |
“ecrasez l'infame” Since: May 08
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#4
Jan 4, 2012
Strawman, I never said that. You made a claim that you were quoting atheists in your first post. CITE you reference for these supposed quotes, please. |
Since: Apr 08
Corby, UK |
#5
Jan 4, 2012
Cite your references please or be seen as just one more of the many liars for Jesus.
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#6
Jan 4, 2012
OOPS! "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" - Carl Sagan Your claim: God exists. Which one is another matter. Where is this god? What color is she/he? How old? Was it a only child? Universe of origin? Why does this god need assistance from feeble humans to explain it's wishes? Yes... the 'why's are many, and the answers are non-existant. Our claim: No evidence exists that supports the existence of any dieties, thus there are no gods. |
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Since: Apr 08
Corby, UK |
#7
Jan 4, 2012
Lol!
This is shaping up to be a spectacularly unsuccessful thread for humble brother! |
“ecrasez l'infame” Since: May 08
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#8
Jan 4, 2012
You mean "another" one. |
Helsinki, Finland |
#9
Jan 7, 2012
How can a question be a strawman? You have outdone yourself! |
Helsinki, Finland |
#10
Jan 7, 2012
OOPS! You failed to understand the claim. My claim: A belief in the nonexistence of a creator of the material universe can only be made irrationally. One can never have evidence of nonexistence of anything. Only evidence of the existence of something may be found. So again: To believe in the existence of something when there is evidence is rational. To believe in the nonexistence of something when there is no evidence is irrational. To believe in the possibility of existence of something in the absence of evidence is rational. So the basic belief in atheism is NOT rational. That's all. |
Since: Apr 08
Corby, UK |
#11
Jan 7, 2012
http://www.the-wolf.org/pics/occams_razor.gif |
Helsinki, Finland |
#12
Jan 7, 2012
I take that as an indication that you believe things without evidence. |
Since: Apr 08
Corby, UK |
#13
Jan 7, 2012
Then you'd be wrong. There is plenty or evidence that the universe exists. I'm not the one who is introducing an unproveable invisible sky pixie and claiming (without evidence) that said pixie created everything. |
“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes” Since: Dec 06
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#14
Jan 7, 2012
And your claim is quite....extraordinary. Proof please. |
Helsinki, Finland |
#15
Jan 8, 2012
Believing something when there's evidence does not mean that you don't believe something else without evidence. Do you believe that it is impossible that an intelligent creator of the universe exists? If you do, what is your evidence? |
Helsinki, Finland |
#16
Jan 8, 2012
Here's the proof: You can not claim that something does not exist because you may in the future find evidence of its existence. If something has not happened yet, it does not mean that it will never happen. However, it is true that in a philosophical sense immaterial logical evidence may be generated for the nonexistence of something. This however requires the selected prerequisite that nothing that is a logical paradox can exist. In some fields of science this does not apply anymore because it is accepted that something that is a logical paradox may indeed exist. It begs the question: do you believe in paradoxes? |
Since: Apr 08
Corby, UK |
#17
Jan 8, 2012
Do you believe that it is impossible that an intelligent creator of creator of the universe exists? If you do, what is your evidence? |
“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes” Since: Dec 06
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#18
Jan 8, 2012
Did I say with 100% certainty "not exist"? No. But. It is quite easy to prove the bible's god cannot possibly exist as portrayed. So either the bible is flat-wrong, or it's god is myth or both. The bible's depiction of a god contradicts itself all over the place. Thus? The god it describes cannot possibly exist. And you are proven to be ... ... wrong. Again. |
“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes” Since: Dec 06
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#19
Jan 8, 2012
Indeed I do not. Thus? The bible's description of it's god is false: Such a god is a paradox. Thank you for bringing that point to light. You've been very helpful at proving, to 100%, that your god cannot possibly exist as described in the bible: Paradox. |
“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes” Since: Dec 06
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#20
Jan 8, 2012
Some things cannot ever happen because they are simply an impossibility. For example: you cannot have an invisible man who is also visible. He is either invisible or he is visible (at least in part). He cannot be both-- that is impossible, no matter how long you wait. Here's another: A woman is 1/2 pregnant. That is also an impossibility: she is either fully pregnant, or she is not pregnant. There is no 1/2 way-- no partial-pregnancy-- it cannot happen, no matter how long you wait. And so on. Some things simply cannot be. Your silly idea of "god" is very likely one of these things. |
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