Forced to go to sunday school

Forced to go to sunday school

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“Work out your own salvation.”

Since: Jan 12

new york

#1 Aug 7, 2012
Came out atheist to my dad. He was a believer in god but not religious.i never saw him pray. But now that he has a kid who has decided islam is not th way he is making me go to sunday school in harlem. When we discussed my view point he just went death.Just saw his belief in god as right my atheism wrong. You need faith, how does science explain this, blah. He got held hostage at gunpoint in South africa. And lived.most people police told him died. He took that as a sign from god. Secretly i thought coincedence but kept that to myself. You need god faith atheists never did anything great in history. Just because you need a invisible crutch doesnt mean i do. When i said i believe humans need to help themselves he just blabbered about god.im just angry that he cant get it throught his thick skull I DONT BELIEVE IN GOD AND TEACHING ME TO PRAY TO ALLAH WONT MAKE ME A THEIST.
Any advice?
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#2 Aug 8, 2012
I wouldn't presume to advise you LRK, but I do sympathise.

Due to one religious parent in my family, all of us had to pretend to believe so as to 'keep the peace'. Fortunately, he accepted that we were non-believers and even that I disapproved of faith. We worked hard and lived good honest lives. I think that helped him accept the way we were. He was very disappointed that we didn't believe.

Apostacy in Islam often seems to be taken far more seriously. I hope you maintain a good relationship with your father and that differences over his act of faith doesn't come between you. He is far more important than that.

I couldn't be there when he died, but my mother assured me he was very proud of me - that is something I never forgot and will always treasure. I don't think she would have lied to me about such a thing and it fits with how we all interacted.

“Work out your own salvation.”

Since: Jan 12

new york

#3 Aug 8, 2012
EdSed wrote:
I wouldn't presume to advise you LRK, but I do sympathise.
Due to one religious parent in my family, all of us had to pretend to believe so as to 'keep the peace'. Fortunately, he accepted that we were non-believers and even that I disapproved of faith. We worked hard and lived good honest lives. I think that helped him accept the way we were. He was very disappointed that we didn't believe.
Apostacy in Islam often seems to be taken far more seriously. I hope you maintain a good relationship with your father and that differences over his act of faith doesn't come between you. He is far more important than that.
I couldn't be there when he died, but my mother assured me he was very proud of me - that is something I never forgot and will always treasure. I don't think she would have lied to me about such a thing and it fits with how we all interacted.
Thank you. I try to read as much atheist stuff as possible when going there because when you learn things over and over it sticks and u start believin lies
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#4 Aug 9, 2012
Btw, I don’t call myself atheist. Remember that atheism and secularism are religious terms. The first is a disbelief in god and the latter means inclusive and worldly rather than spiritual and religious. I think religion is harmful and divisive and I visit the Atheist Forum to try to address some of the damage it does. I mostly read about positive philosophies. Topix ignores and omits headings such as Humanist and Ethical that have some international appeal..
http://www.iheu.org/

If you want to meet like-minded people, you might try googling Humanism, Skeptics, Brights, Rationalist and freethinking. There may be a rationalist group or website in your area, or a publication.

Religionists call me atheist or agnostic but I don’t believe in pixies either. I don’t call myself an apixie-ist!
:-)

“Work out your own salvation.”

Since: Jan 12

new york

#5 Aug 9, 2012
EdSed wrote:
Btw, I don’t call myself atheist. Remember that atheism and secularism are religious terms. The first is a disbelief in god and the latter means inclusive and worldly rather than spiritual and religious. I think religion is harmful and divisive and I visit the Atheist Forum to try to address some of the damage it does. I mostly read about positive philosophies. Topix ignores and omits headings such as Humanist and Ethical that have some international appeal..
http://www.iheu.org/
If you want to meet like-minded people, you might try googling Humanism, Skeptics, Brights, Rationalist and freethinking. There may be a rationalist group or website in your area, or a publication.
Religionists call me atheist or agnostic but I don’t believe in pixies either. I don’t call myself an apixie-ist!
:-)
Oh alright lol. I like humanism alot also buddhism.

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