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Thinking

Winsford, UK

#804 Aug 19, 2014
Many is not less than three.
Patrick wrote:
Atheism an old philosophy of some merit, examined by the Greeks many thousands of years ago.
Over a good cup of coffee the discussion usually moves on to great books -
The Quiet American
Smilla's Sense of Snow
The Republic
A Coffin for Dimitrios
War and Peace
Since no one can prove atheism the arguments tend to be circular.
Patrick

United States

#805 Aug 19, 2014
"The Quiet American" argues the case for disbelief.

Trolls may avoid this as it involves reading rather than trolling.
Thinking

Warwick, UK

#806 Aug 19, 2014
Have you actually read it?
It argues that Americans are murderers.
Patrick wrote:
"The Quiet American" argues the case for disbelief.
Trolls may avoid this as it involves reading rather than trolling.
Patrick

United States

#807 Aug 19, 2014
In 1949, when the New Statesman held a contest for parodies of Greene's writing style, he submitted an entry under the pen name "N. Wilkinson" and won second prize. His entry comprised the first two paragraphs of a novel, apparently set in Italy, The Stranger's Hand: An Entertainment. Greene's friend, Mario Soldati, a Piedmontese novelist and film director, believed that it had the makings of a suspense film about Yugoslav spies in postwar Venice. Upon Soldati's prompting, Greene continued writing the story as the basis for a film script. Apparently he lost interest in the project, leaving it as a substantial fragment that was published posthumously in The Graham Greene Film Reader (1993) and No Man's Land (2005). A script for The Stranger's Hand was written by Guy Elmes on the basis of Greene's unfinished story, and filmed by Soldati in 1954. In 1965 Gre
religionisillnes s

London, UK

#808 Aug 20, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Atheism an old philosophy of some merit, examined by the Greeks many thousands of years ago.
Over a good cup of coffee the discussion usually moves on to great books -
The Quiet American
Smilla's Sense of Snow
The Republic
A Coffin for Dimitrios
War and Peace
Since no one can prove atheism the arguments tend to be circular.
Weak, cowardly religious liars like you only create more Atheists in the world.

Its because you're gutless & arrogant that you can't admit that Atheism is correct.

Lying about Atheism is your admission of defeat.
religionisillnes s

London, UK

#809 Aug 20, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Atheism an old philosophy of some merit, examined by the Greeks many thousands of years ago.
Over a good cup of coffee the discussion usually moves on to great books -
The Quiet American
Smilla's Sense of Snow
The Republic
A Coffin for Dimitrios
War and Peace
Since no one can prove atheism the arguments tend to be circular.
More "no evidence" from the failed creationist liars.
Patrick

United States

#810 Sep 18, 2014
Pope Francis in the news .....

An Italian TV show has managed to coax Pope Francis into handing over his white skull cap and has already raised over €100,000 in less than 24 hours by putting it on eBay.

The host of satirical show Le Iene (The Hyenas) got up at the crack of dawn to ensure he had a front row position for one of the pope's regular appearances in St Peter's Square in the Vatican City.

As later shown on Vatican TV, the host managed to accost the pope as he boarded his jeep and offered him a new white skull cap.

The Pope is seen stopping the jeep and examining the cap, before swapping it for his own.

The cap was put on eBay on Wednesday evening, and had already attracted a bid of €105,000 by Thursday afternoon.

The money raised is to be given to an Italian charity fighting child mortality in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the programme makers said.
Patrick

United States

#811 Sep 18, 2014
The Vote results seem hours away

Churches along the border of England and Scotland are hoping the close relations that characterise the region will remain intact after the historic referendum on independence taking place today.

Scots have been queueing up since the early hours of the morning to cast their votes at polling stations across Scotland.

It follows months of intensive campaigning by Yes Scotland and Better Together. Both campaigns have been been criticised for heated engagement, and for invoking emotion over fact.

With the hours counting down before the result is revealed, questions still remain on a raft of key issues, like border controls, membership in the EU, and its currency.

But it's not only Scots who will be glued to their TV sets tonight. English people living just south of the border are also awaiting the outcome with anticipation – and prayer.

"It's on everybody's lips," says Rob Scott-Buccleuch, of Hebron Evangelical Church in Carlisle.

Typical for a region where Scots and English have rubbed shoulders for generations, his ancestry hails from both nations.

And his is not an uncommon story for the area. Although he lives and works in Carlisle, he is frequently over the border in Scotland, not least for a spot of shopping at a local mall just six miles away in Gretna.

Many locals are concerned about what the outcome of the referendum will mean for the border hopping they are so accustomed to.

Alan Meyer, senior pastor of Elim Carlisle, said: "The consensus around town is that we want Scotland to remain in the UK. I have no great concern about relations between England and Scotland after the vote. My concerns are more about the impact economically and on industry, as [independence] could adversely affect cross-border travel."

Over in the Scottish town of Kelso, Elizabeth Topp of St Andrew's and St Mary's is asking the same questions.

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/god.and...
Patrick

United States

#812 Sep 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Have you actually read it?
It argues that Americans are murderers.
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A few in IndoChina under the French ...very well written
TheHeadlines

London, UK

#813 Sep 18, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Pope Francis in the news .....
An Italian TV show has managed to coax Pope Francis into handing over his white skull cap and has already raised over €100,000 in less than 24 hours by putting it on eBay.
The host of satirical show Le Iene (The Hyenas) got up at the crack of dawn to ensure he had a front row position for one of the pope's regular appearances in St Peter's Square in the Vatican City.
As later shown on Vatican TV, the host managed to accost the pope as he boarded his jeep and offered him a new white skull cap.
The Pope is seen stopping the jeep and examining the cap, before swapping it for his own.
The cap was put on eBay on Wednesday evening, and had already attracted a bid of €105,000 by Thursday afternoon.
The money raised is to be given to an Italian charity fighting child mortality in the Democratic Republic of Congo, the programme makers said.
"Atheists Uninterested In Creationist Spam, Despite Former Nazi Leader Patrick's Attempts."
Patrick

United States

#814 Sep 18, 2014
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>Suggesting atheism can be "killed" is to misunderstand what's happening. Atheism isn't growing, superstition (including religion) is declining.
The enemy of religious faith isn't atheism, it is education and science that undermine belief in gods.
There are other factors of course, such as the freedom of speech we enjoy, critical thinking and scientific method. The Internet helps spread new ideas and freethinker's comments more widely and much faster than in previous centuries.
Theology = mythology
Intelligent atheists and theists often agree on the need for self discovery and toleration.
Patrick

United States

#815 Sep 18, 2014
News from Scotland
The first result in the Scottish independence referendum has been announced, with most people voting "No" in Clackmannanshire by 54% to 46%.
A total of 19,036 voted to reject independence, with 16,350 voting "Yes".
The turnout was 89%. There were 35,411 votes cast, with 25 rejected ballots.
Results for the rest of Scotland's 32 local authority areas are yet to be declared, with the final national result expected after 06:30 BST (05:30 GMT) on Friday.
A "Yes" vote in the ballot would end the 307-year-old union between Scotland and the rest of the UK.
Patrick

United States

#816 Sep 18, 2014
Prayer in Public in America

A spokesman for Jackson Public Schools issued a response Monday to the American Humanist Association's eight-page letter calling them out for allowing religious references, including prayer, at their teachers' convocation before the school year began.

In an email sent Monday evening, JPS spokesman Sherwin Johnson stated, "The Jackson Public School District acknowledges receiving a letter from the Appignani Humanist Legal Center regarding events taking place during the 2014 Convocation ceremony. The JPS Legal Department is reviewing the letter and will respond appropriately as needed. The annual Convocation program is a celebratory event intended to invigorate employees with enthusiasm, pride, and excitement for the beginning of a new school year."

The letter from the AHA was addressed to Superintendent Cedric Gray. The main contention was the fact that a pastor was allowed to pray, and that other biblical and religious references were made throughout the three-hour meeting.

The AHA, whose catchphrase is "Good without a God," said they have a client who complained to them about a Christian pastor who gave a sermon and prayed at the teachers' meetings both in 2013 and 2014. The letter advised Gray that the initial pastor, the Rev. Roy Maine, was not the only one who spoke about Christian values.

"The religious proselytization did not end with the Reverend's sermon. Nearly every speaker at this three-hour event engaged in some form of religious preaching, recitation of Bible verses, and invocation to 'Lord' and 'God.' The event was best described by our client as "one long church service," the letter, signed by Monica Miller, states.

The letter, heavy on footnotes and references, states that the AHA will seek legal recourse against JPS for allowing speakers and officials to reference God if the situation is not corrected within two weeks.

"The center has litigated cases involving church-state separation and the rights of Humanists, other non-theists, as well as Christians, in state and federal courts nationwide," the letter states.

"Under well-settled Establishment Clause jurisprudence, infra, the School District's actions mark a clear breach of the United States Constitution. This letter demands assurances that the School District will refrain from including religious elements in school-sponsored events and specifically at future convocations."
Patrick

United States

#817 Sep 18, 2014
If there is a "No" victory and if it is as a result of Gordon Brown's timetable for delivering more powers for Scotland, will Westminster accept his analysis that the unalloyed sovereignty of Westminster is at an end?
Patrick

United States

#818 Sep 18, 2014
Looks as if the United Kingdom is safe

The omens were not good for the breakaway leader Alex Salmond (inset), who canceled an appearance at the Aberdeenshire count before the first result came in tonight. When it did, Clackmannanshire voted 54 per cent No - followed by resounding No votes in the traditional pro-Union islands of Orkney and Shetland. A final opinion poll put the No campaign nationwide on 54 per cent too. Better Together campaigners believe they are on course for victory in key areas, with turnout at record highs - but Yes campaign was still pinning hopes on securing a lead in the Labour strongholds of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire. Tonight there were allegations of 10 electoral fraud cases in Glasgow as voters supposedly turned up to polling station to find they had already voted. Elsewhere in Scotland's biggest city, thousands of Yes campaigners were in party mood in Glasgow's George Square (top left) waving Saltires and burning flares (right)- but tensions rose as the prospects dimmed (bottom left), and some were arrested. More than 4.2million people were able to vote in the referendum, including 16 and 17-year-olds for the first time, and the Queen was following events closely as the night unfolded.
TheHeadlines

London, UK

#819 Sep 20, 2014
Patrick wrote:
Looks as if the United Kingdom is safe
The omens were not good for the breakaway leader Alex Salmond (inset), who canceled an appearance at the Aberdeenshire count before the first result came in tonight. When it did, Clackmannanshire voted 54 per cent No - followed by resounding No votes in the traditional pro-Union islands of Orkney and Shetland. A final opinion poll put the No campaign nationwide on 54 per cent too. Better Together campaigners believe they are on course for victory in key areas, with turnout at record highs - but Yes campaign was still pinning hopes on securing a lead in the Labour strongholds of Glasgow and North Lanarkshire. Tonight there were allegations of 10 electoral fraud cases in Glasgow as voters supposedly turned up to polling station to find they had already voted. Elsewhere in Scotland's biggest city, thousands of Yes campaigners were in party mood in Glasgow's George Square (top left) waving Saltires and burning flares (right)- but tensions rose as the prospects dimmed (bottom left), and some were arrested. More than 4.2million people were able to vote in the referendum, including 16 and 17-year-olds for the first time, and the Queen was following events closely as the night unfolded.
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