Introducing The Universal Religion

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#659 May 4, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No.
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Yes, through your imaginative ingenuity at creating a special halo around my name, in honor of my genius.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#660 May 4, 2014
The only way to establish a reputation for intellectuality in a written forum is to display it with sound reasoning in well organized posts. Declaring one's "genius" only establishes a penchant for narcism.

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#662 May 4, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, through your imaginative ingenuity at creating a special halo around my name, in honor of my genius.
so genius means stupid

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#663 May 5, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
The only way to establish a reputation for intellectuality in a written forum is to display it with sound reasoning in well organized posts. Declaring one's "genius" only establishes a penchant for narcism.
He who knows and knows that he knows. knows better than who knows not that he knows.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#664 May 5, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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so genius means stupid
Stupidity/intelligence sounds intelligent/stupid to the stupid respectively.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#665 May 5, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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so genius means stupid
Yes, to the stupid.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#666 May 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> He who knows and knows that he knows. knows better than who knows not that he knows.
Absolute certainty is often--nay, usually--the mark of a fool. Real intellectuals have confidence in their ideas, but not certainty. Rather, they follow the model implicit in the scientific method, confident in ideas that have been demonstrated with evidence, logic, and reasoning, but open to new evidence and/or better logic that might modify or even nullify one idea or another. Absolute certainty can come only from powerful faith, the opposite of intellectual openness.

Since: Jun 12

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#667 May 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, to the stupid.
you are the stupid troll here

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#668 May 5, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Stupidity/intelligence sounds intelligent/stupid to the stupid respectively.
You are not intelligent!

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#669 May 6, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
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Absolute certainty is often--nay, usually--the mark of a fool. Real intellectuals have confidence in their ideas, but not certainty. Rather, they follow the model implicit in the scientific method, confident in ideas that have been demonstrated with evidence, logic, and reasoning, but open to new evidence and/or better logic that might modify or even nullify one idea or another. Absolute certainty can come only from powerful faith, the opposite of intellectual openness.
Knowledge, certainty and absolute category, not the samething.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#670 May 7, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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you are the stupid troll here
You, the MOST stupidest.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#671 May 7, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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You are not intelligent!
An intelligent man 'is not intelligent' to a fool.

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#672 May 7, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> You, the MOST stupidest.
You are projecting!

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#673 May 7, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> You, the MOST stupidest.
Projecting!

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#674 May 7, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> An intelligent man 'is not intelligent' to a fool.
The problem you are not intelligent and i'm not a fool

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#675 May 7, 2014
Mikko,
Let's see who is a fool.
Now, answer the following question (but where you can't as usual, you may seek the assistance of kindred atheists here in Topix and beyond):
If your imperfect, limited actions are the products of your imperfect, limited intelligence; the perfect, limitless natural actions must be the products of what?
Where you or any of your cohorts miss the answer, I would readily supply the correct answer.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#676 May 7, 2014
jide oni wrote:
Mikko,
Let's see who is a fool.
Now, answer the following question (but where you can't as usual, you may seek the assistance of kindred atheists here in Topix and beyond):
If your imperfect, limited actions are the products of your imperfect, limited intelligence; the perfect, limitless natural actions must be the products of what?
Where you or any of your cohorts miss the answer, I would readily supply the correct answer.
Your question assumes the existence of "perfect". "limitless", "natural" actions, without citing any example or otherwise proving that such actions exist. "Perfection", like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Often a thing seems to be perfect only because the observer lacks the ability to imagine alternatives. That is more evidence of imperfection of the beholder than it is of perfection in the thing. "Limitless" action is similarly undefined, and perhaps undefinable. It seems like another in the long line of meaningless catch phrases that permeate your writing. Finally, you talk of "natural" actions, when you advocate for religion, which is concerned with the supernatural. An action caused by a supernatural being is necessarily not "natural".

I have every confidence that the answer you supply, like the question itself will be gibberish, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#677 May 7, 2014
Amused wrote:
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Your question assumes the existence of "perfect". "limitless", "natural" actions, without citing any example or otherwise proving that such actions exist. "Perfection", like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder. Often a thing seems to be perfect only because the observer lacks the ability to imagine alternatives. That is more evidence of imperfection of the beholder than it is of perfection in the thing. "Limitless" action is similarly undefined, and perhaps undefinable. It seems like another in the long line of meaningless catch phrases that permeate your writing. Finally, you talk of "natural" actions, when you advocate for religion, which is concerned with the supernatural. An action caused by a supernatural being is necessarily not "natural".
I have every confidence that the answer you supply, like the question itself will be gibberish, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
Sound and fury? I think not. Nothing that jide oni has written on this thread has risen to that level of power. No, his strutting and fretting consists more of stumbles and mumbles. But they still signify nothing, leaving only a funny smell and maybe a little waxy residue when his brief candle sputters and dies.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#678 May 7, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
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Sound and fury? I think not. Nothing that jide oni has written on this thread has risen to that level of power. No, his strutting and fretting consists more of stumbles and mumbles. But they still signify nothing, leaving only a funny smell and maybe a little waxy residue when his brief candle sputters and dies.
I was just curious if he knew the rest of the line. Seriously, he just sounds like a Madlib gone awry.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#679 May 8, 2014
Amused,
In the first place, the Universal Religion does not ascribe any supernatural character to God. To us. God is a natural God; And since our world is a natural one, to conceive of anything falling outside of the confines of nature is in itself stupid and senseless.
Perfection, as a term, is an absolute concept, independent of man's relative, personal, subjective opinions or perceptions. Whatever is perfect, is perfect to all, all the time and everywhere.
For instance, actions said to be natural ones are all those that do not emanate from man; but those phenomena which are objectively observed to exhibit consistency in time, place and in their manifest invincible strength, e.g. the actions of the sun, the planets and their satellites; chemical and biological actions; and a host of other subtler natural phenomena that exert their positive, irreversible presence in our world, such as time, growth, gravitational force, evolutionary trend etc.

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