Amused

Lowell, MA

#603 Apr 22, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> We are all children of the universe, therefore members of the Universal Religion.
A person is a member of a religion if he/she subscribes to the basic beliefs of that religion. I, like many others on this forum, remain completely unconvinced by your claims. Unless or until you proffer credible evidence, I do not subscribe to the beliefs of your religion, and am in no ways a member thereof, your childish word games notwithstanding.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#604 Apr 22, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> We are all children of the universe, therefore members of the Universal Religion.
no one wants to join so you create that bullshit

Since: Jan 14

United States

#605 Apr 22, 2014
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
A person is a member of a religion if he/she subscribes to the basic beliefs of that religion. I, like many others on this forum, remain completely unconvinced by your claims. Unless or until you proffer credible evidence, I do not subscribe to the beliefs of your religion, and am in no ways a member thereof, your childish word games notwithstanding.
Membership of the religion is universally automatic and voluntarily mandatory.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#606 Apr 22, 2014
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
no one wants to join so you create that bullshit
As a human being, you must be either an active member or an inactive one.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#608 Apr 23, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Membership of the religion is universally automatic and voluntarily mandatory.
More clueless, childish word games. You haven't proved the existence of your god, nor the validity of any of your axioms. You cannot define people into believing your rubbish without any manifestation that they accept it as true. Your mumbo-jumbo is completely unconvincing, illogical, assumes the truth of facts not in evidence, and generally appears to have been conceived by an orangutan with a head injury.
Thinking

Sturminster Newton, UK

#609 Apr 23, 2014
Oh jedi nonce...
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> ...voluntarily mandatory.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#610 Apr 23, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Membership of the religion is universally automatic and voluntarily mandatory.
Membership of the Mikko is great Club is universally automatic and voluntarily mandatory.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#611 Apr 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Oh jedi nonce...
<quoted text>
Never heard of oxymoron before?
Thinking

Salisbury, UK

#612 Apr 23, 2014
Yes, e.g: universal religion.
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Never heard of oxymoron before?

Since: Jan 14

United States

#613 Apr 23, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yes, e.g: universal religion.
<quoted text>
Stinking, You lose.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#614 Apr 24, 2014
NightSerf,
If man's brain/intelligence is considered a composite part of man, and not as a creator of the body of man, why ascribe a creator character to universal intelligence?
While I acknowledge the necessary existence of a superior intelligence back of all natural conditions, I have never either explicitly or implicitly stated that there is any creator god at the root of existence.
Rather, my contention has ever been that a superior intelligence must be the propeling causative agent of those observable, perfect, consistent principles that control man and all of the immanent conditions.
As human limited efforts are the products of his limited intelligence, so also are all observable, limitless, natural phenomena necessary products of limitless intelligence.
If the human body has no beginning, and the visible universal gross matter has no beginning either, why arrogating creator character to their intelligence - a non-physical integral part in their over-all composition?
No beginning, no creation.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#615 Apr 24, 2014
jide oni wrote:
NightSerf,
If man's brain/intelligence is considered a composite part of man, and not as a creator of the body of man, why ascribe a creator character to universal intelligence?
While I acknowledge the necessary existence of a superior intelligence back of all natural conditions, I have never either explicitly or implicitly stated that there is any creator god at the root of existence.
Rather, my contention has ever been that a superior intelligence must be the propeling causative agent of those observable, perfect, consistent principles that control man and all of the immanent conditions.
As human limited efforts are the products of his limited intelligence, so also are all observable, limitless, natural phenomena necessary products of limitless intelligence.
If the human body has no beginning, and the visible universal gross matter has no beginning either, why arrogating creator character to their intelligence - a non-physical integral part in their over-all composition?
No beginning, no creation.
All of the above consists of statements of faith from my point of view because they have not been substantiated with any compelling evidence. As I do not base my understanding of anything on faith if I can avoid it, I reject it all. Most, if not all skeptics would.
Thinking

Salisbury, UK

#616 Apr 24, 2014
No, but you certainly lose time voting for yourself.
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Stinking, You lose.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#617 Apr 24, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>
All of the above consists of statements of faith from my point of view because they have not been substantiated with any compelling evidence. As I do not base my understanding of anything on faith if I can avoid it, I reject it all. Most, if not all skeptics would.
'...from my point of view...' settles it.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#618 Apr 24, 2014
Thinking wrote:
No, but you certainly lose time voting for yourself.
<quoted text>
Time will tell.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#619 Apr 25, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Yes, e.g: universal religion.
<quoted text>
Yes, you are right, a religion of no religion; Universal goddism more appropriate.

Since: Feb 14

Kokubunji, Japan

#620 Apr 25, 2014
Yeah I had my own religion once, was fun, it was me and 4-5 other dudes worshiping this made up goddess, it was for fun, but soem of the memebrs took it very serious -.-

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#621 Apr 25, 2014
Elixz wrote:
Yeah I had my own religion once, was fun, it was me and 4-5 other dudes worshiping this made up goddess, it was for fun, but soem of the memebrs took it very serious -.-
I had a similar experience many years ago. I destroyed the whole concept publically and that should have been the end of it, but even some of the ones who had been part of it's creation, had begun to actually live as if they believed it. And they went on for some time along those lines. To me, that was very weird. Now I know that many will willingly grasp at anything no matter how insane. Why they do it is still mystery to me, and yes I know all the so called reasons, but they really don't hold water.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#622 Apr 26, 2014
Elixz wrote:
Yeah I had my own religion once, was fun, it was me and 4-5 other dudes worshiping this made up goddess, it was for fun, but soem of the memebrs took it very serious -.-
God is self-sufficient, not needing any worship from anybody.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#623 Apr 26, 2014
Elixz wrote:
Yeah I had my own religion once, was fun, it was me and 4-5 other dudes worshiping this made up goddess, it was for fun, but soem of the memebrs took it very serious -.-
I too was not only involved in faith-biased religion, but also in plausible skepticism.

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