Introducing The Universal Religion
Amused

Lowell, MA

#565 Apr 16, 2014
jide oni wrote:
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I have earlier listed the 37 natural laws with brief explanations.
The only list I see is of 11. Some of those are either absurd or completely incapable of proof. For example, the claim that all people suffer equally. On its face, the idea that a billionaire and a child starving to death in the third world suffer equally is obviously false. Further, the nature and extent of anyone's suffering is unique to that individual. There exists no table of equivalents, or system of measurement that would allow us to compare one form of suffering to another. The "perfect law" is only perfect in its absurdity.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#566 Apr 16, 2014
Your list is not even perfect in its numbering, proceeding from one to six, then to 11, 12 and 14. Most of 1 through 6 consists of unverifiable statements about your hypothetical god, for which you present no evidence other than your obiter dicta.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#567 Apr 16, 2014
Mikko wrote:
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Everything of nothing is still nothing
No, everything upon zero is everything, while zero upon everything is nothing.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#568 Apr 16, 2014
Amused wrote:
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The only list I see is of 11. Some of those are either absurd or completely incapable of proof. For example, the claim that all people suffer equally. On its face, the idea that a billionaire and a child starving to death in the third world suffer equally is obviously false. Further, the nature and extent of anyone's suffering is unique to that individual. There exists no table of equivalents, or system of measurement that would allow us to compare one form of suffering to another. The "perfect law" is only perfect in its absurdity.
Suffering proportionally in intensity,
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#569 Apr 17, 2014
Prove it.
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Evidence everywhere, even you.
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#570 Apr 17, 2014
Prove it.
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> No, everything upon zero is everything, while zero upon everything is nothing.

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#571 Apr 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Prove it.
<quoted text>
1/0=1, whereas 0/1=0
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#572 Apr 17, 2014
Wrong as usual.

0 multiplied by 1 is not 1.

1/0 is not defined.
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> 1/0=1, whereas 0/1=0

Since: Jan 14

Ashburn, VA

#573 Apr 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Wrong as usual.
0 multiplied by 1 is not 1.
1/0 is not defined.
<quoted text>
You are a comic relief in the tragedy of atheism.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#574 Apr 17, 2014
I was taught that 1/0=infinity. Has that changed since I was in school?
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#575 Apr 17, 2014
It's not quite that easy.

If you look at the graph of 1/x, when x is only a little less than 0, 1/x tends to minus infinity but when x is only a little more than 0, 1/x tends to plus infinity. So it is better to think of 1/0 as undefined. In arithmetic, 1/0 is meaningless.
NightSerf wrote:
I was taught that 1/0=infinity. Has that changed since I was in school?

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#576 Apr 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
It's not quite that easy.
If you look at the graph of 1/x, when x is only a little less than 0, 1/x tends to minus infinity but when x is only a little more than 0, 1/x tends to plus infinity. So it is better to think of 1/0 as undefined. In arithmetic, 1/0 is meaningless.
<quoted text>
Cool. I don't do any math where it matters, but thanks for the info.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#577 Apr 17, 2014
jide oni wrote:
<quoted text> Suffering proportionally in intensity,
That is a statement utterly devoid of meaning. Since there are no units of measurement of suffering, one cannot measure the suffering of one individual because of one distressing thing compared to the suffering of another from a different cause. Person A lost both parents in an auto accident. Person B is in physical agony because of serious burns. Who is suffering "more"? It is a meaningless comparison. It is the kind of thing stoners say when they think they are being philosophical, when it is just the marijuana talking.
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#578 Apr 17, 2014
You're welcome.

Apropos nothing at all, the UK gets good Friday and easter Monday off work, yet only a small percentage of us will go anywhere near a church.

If "the" universal religion has a special day off, I'll take advantage of that too!
NightSerf wrote:
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Cool. I don't do any math where it matters, but thanks for the info.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#579 Apr 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You're welcome.
Apropos nothing at all, the UK gets good Friday and easter Monday off work, yet only a small percentage of us will go anywhere near a church.
If "the" universal religion has a special day off, I'll take advantage of that too!
<quoted text>
Ha! Me, too.

Since: Jan 14

United States

#580 Apr 17, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Ha! Me, too.
None of us is going anywhere.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#581 Apr 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
You're welcome.
Apropos nothing at all, the UK gets good Friday and easter Monday off work, yet only a small percentage of us will go anywhere near a church.
If "the" universal religion has a special day off, I'll take advantage of that too!
<quoted text>
No useless servitude to an unservable god, but service to humanity.
Thinking

Wellingborough, UK

#582 Apr 18, 2014
Party tonight, boozy curry Saturday, BBQ Sunday. That's my religious weekend sorted.
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Ha! Me, too.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#583 Apr 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Party tonight, boozy curry Saturday, BBQ Sunday. That's my religious weekend sorted.
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Three-gig weekend... not doing much else.

Since: Jan 14

Europe

#584 Apr 18, 2014
Thinking wrote:
Party tonight, boozy curry Saturday, BBQ Sunday. That's my religious weekend sorted.
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That's me too, because after this our present life, there may not be any other one after all.

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