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#558 Aug 17, 2013
MUJAAHID wrote:
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if religion was superstition then how does religion say that ....
Read your own words very very carefully. This is known as a logical error in your head.

Since: Jun 07

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#559 Aug 17, 2013
Witness religious stupidity at its finest here folks.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#560 Aug 17, 2013
MUJAAHID wrote:
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energy cannot be created or destroyed it has always been and will always be therefore it is infinite compressed energy = light
god was not created cannot be destroyed he always has been and always will be therefore god is infinite god (allah)=nur (light)
You've got to admire muslim tenacity. While the rest of the world has accepted the Reinaissance and the Enlightenment, islam is still fighting a rearguard action again st the 16th Century.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#561 Aug 17, 2013
Amused wrote:
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You've got to admire muslim tenacity. While the rest of the world has accepted the Reinaissance and the Enlightenment, islam is still fighting a rearguard action again st the 16th Century.
I think you are being overly generous... 16th? More like 11th...

Since: Jun 13

Cape Town, South Africa

#563 Aug 18, 2013
Givemeliberty wrote:
You must be wearing your tinfoil hat again freak. BTW you don't see Americans running into daycares with a bomb strapped to their chest. That is your people.
Go pray to your camel.
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yeah cause americans (NOT ALL OF THEM ONLY A CERTAIN GROUP) go on governmentes orders and cause massacres not only no muslims but many other religions including athiests

Since: Jun 13

Cape Town, South Africa

#564 Aug 18, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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Read your own words very very carefully. This is known as a logical error in your head.
the reason i used religion again was to point out that religion is reality not superstition

Since: Jun 07

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#565 Aug 18, 2013
MUJAAHID wrote:
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the reason i used religion again was to point out that religion is reality not superstition
Listen to your continued stupidity. just listen. Insult to the cells in your brain.
LCNlin

United States

#566 Aug 18, 2013
President Obama supports Prayer

AFTER a Washington odd couple chose to offer support for prayers in public meetings in a US Supreme Court case, two Hamilton County residents suing to stop public prayers locally say they were surprised but will continue to press on.

Lawyers for the Obama administration and House and Senate Republicans last week filed “friend of the court” briefs in the case of Greece v. Galloway.

The case involves a New York woman who is suing the town of Greece, New York, to halt prayers before public meetings. In that case, the woman is arguing that prayers at the town council were exclusively Christian and, therefore, endorsed Christianity over other religions.

The high court case closely parallels a federal case in Hamilton County, where residents Thomas Coleman and Brandon Jones are suing to halt prayers before Hamilton County Commission meetings and have them replaced with moments of silence.

Coleman said on Tuesday he was disappointed by the White House’s move.

“We were extremely shocked and certainly saw this as causing more problems for freedom of religion down the road. It certainly seems like the Obama administration was passing the buck on this one,” he said.

“It’s going to come back to the Supreme Court in some form or another, and it will continue until there is some resolution that pleases everybody, which we hold is a moment of silence, which is inclusive of all religions,” Coleman said.

Jones said he suspects Obama’s move was sprinkled with a little politics and is likely an olive branch to the GOP.

“I’m not surprised he’s taking the position that he has.... I think he’s trying to build bipartisanship and probably trying to appease the more right-wing members of society and show that he’s their president, too. I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed, but I understand what he might be doing,” Jones said.

Robin Flores, the lawyer representing Coleman and Jones, said the White House’s involvement doesn’t change a thing for him.

“I think that would have some weight with the justices, and it might work out in favor of the town of Greece, but it’s not going to change our strategy,” Flores said.

Flores has filed a request to enter a late friend of the court brief in the Galloway case but has not heard back from the Supreme Court.

The filing is late because the deadline to file in the Galloway case came before the US 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in Cincinnati, Ohio, ruled against Flores’s request to halt prayer in Hamilton County until the local case was concluded.

Flores, and the county’s attorney Steve Duggins, both said in July the Galloway case would likely settle all government prayer cases.

So far, federal appellate courts in New York, Virginia, Illinois and Colorado have ruled against allowing prayer at government meetings. But courts in California, Ohio and Georgia have upheld it. Part of the Supreme Court’s duty is to provide uniformity of law, Flores said.

Duggins said on Tuesday he was pleased to see the White House come out in favor of prayer at public meetings.

“I’m always glad to see others joining in support of our position. Anytime you get some added support, it’s gratifying,” Duggins said.

The Hamilton County case has a scheduling conference this month in US District Court in Chattanooga.

The Supreme Court is expected to make a ruling in the Galloway case by next summer.

Since: Mar 11

Henderson, KY

#567 Aug 18, 2013
Show where Americans went into daycares as suicide bombers on government orders? Not deaths caused during a war where terrorists attack while surrounded by innocents mind you. Your fellow Muslims regularly attack and kill unarmed innocent people who are just trying to live their lives and you know it. You barbarians even make cartoons for children to watch that glorifies suicide bombing!
MUJAAHID wrote:
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yeah cause americans (NOT ALL OF THEM ONLY A CERTAIN GROUP) go on governmentes orders and cause massacres not only no muslims but many other religions including athiests

Since: Jun 07

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#569 Aug 18, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
Interesting for the UK
British police are examining new information which alleges Princess Diana and Dodi Fayed were murdered by a member of the British military.
Scotland Yard said it was “scoping” the information and “assessing its relevance and credibility”.
The claims were passed to the Metropolitan Police by the Royal Military Police (RMP), which was told of them by the former parents-in-law of a former soldier based on information the ex-soldier had talked about in the past, according to a military source.
A letter given to the RMP is said to allege the SAS was “behind Princess Diana’s death”, according to the Sunday People, and to also refer to the princess’s “secret diary”, in which she allegedly made certain allegations.
Relevance and credibility
A statement issued by Scotland Yard said:“The Metropolitan Police Service is scoping information that has recently been received in relation to the deaths and assessing its relevance and credibility.
“The assessment will be carried out by officers from the specialist crime and operations command. This is not a re-investigation and does not come under Operation Paget.”
Diana, Dodi and chauffeur Henri Paul died after their Mercedes crashed in a Paris tunnel after it left the Ritz Hotel on the morning of August 31st, 1997. Diana, mother of princes William and Harry, was 36 at the time of her death, while Dodi was 42.
The hearing into their deaths lasted more than 90 days with evidence from about 250 witnesses. The inquests concluded on April 7th, 2008, with a jury returning a verdict that the princess and her boyfriend were unlawfully killed.
After the hearing, the Metropolitan Police said it had spent £8 million on services arising from the inquest and the Operation Paget investigation from 2004 to 2006.
Former Met Police Commissioner Lord Stevens’s Paget investigation, published in December 2006, rejected the murder claims voiced by some, including Dodi’s father, Mohamed Al-Fayed.
Lord Stevens’s investigation found that Diana was not murdered by British spies nor by the Duke of Edinburgh and she was not pregnant nor engaged to boyfriend Dodi.
Operation Paget concluded, like the French investigation in 1999, that Mr Paul was drunk and driving at excessive speed.
Lcnln changes the subject when asked for proof of the god his cult sent him here to lie to us about.
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#570 Aug 19, 2013
MUJAAHID wrote:
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yeah cause americans (NOT ALL OF THEM ONLY A CERTAIN GROUP) go on governmentes orders and cause massacres not only no muslims but many other religions including athiests
Cite a specific example or admit that this is just made-up bullsh*t.
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#571 Aug 19, 2013
Very Cynical Person wrote:
Seriously can just one theist present any evidence at all that their god is real.
Something that can be tested and reviewed as true, Physical, tangible, repeatable, evidence.
Please no whack jobs that just state because the bible, quran, or whatever other book they read says so.
I don't know if this original poster is still monitoring this thread, but if so, what exactly would it take for you to believe anything we said? Could we possibly prove Him to you? If so, how?
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#572 Aug 19, 2013
LCNlin wrote:
President Obama supports Prayer
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Not news. We've known from well before the election that he is a christian. It makes no difference. No one here is likely to run out and convert simply because Obama believes.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#573 Aug 19, 2013
Amused wrote:
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Not news. We've known from well before the election that he is a christian..
?
Well, he may be a Christian. Who'd know for sure? To get elected in the USA it's advisable to claim to be a Christian and atheists have long accepted that religionists are hopelessly intolerant of people who openly reject religious faith. If you want to be a US President you have to be pro-Israel and religious,(preferably a mainstream religion).
Amused

Merrimac, MA

#574 Aug 19, 2013
EdSed wrote:
<quoted text>?
Well, he may be a Christian. Who'd know for sure? To get elected in the USA it's advisable to claim to be a Christian and atheists have long accepted that religionists are hopelessly intolerant of people who openly reject religious faith. If you want to be a US President you have to be pro-Israel and religious,(preferably a mainstream religion).
Circumstantial evidence: He attended Jeremiah Wright's church in Chicago. Rev. Wright preaches a gospel heavy on social justice, with some unpopular (in white America) ideas about race and social justice. The republicans made a big deal out of associating Rev. Wright's sermons with Obama, to paint Obama as some kind of radical. Obama is too astute a politician not to have seen that coming. If he was a closet atheist, just going through the motions, to get his ticket punched for a presidential bid, he would have found some really bland parish of some bland denomination to join. The fact that he stuck with the controversial pastor instead suggests real, not feigned belief.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#575 Aug 19, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I don't know if this original poster is still monitoring this thread, but if so, what exactly would it take for you to believe anything we said? Could we possibly prove Him to you? If so, how?
I would accept any number of proofs, that demonstrate your god is real.

Anything **godly** for example: a sudden and immediate end to world-wide hunger would be a pretty good start-- accompanied with a global announcement in **all** languages at once, telling us why.

And even deaf people could "hear" the announcement.

That would work.

Here's another:

A sudden end to **all** infant mortality due to disease-- sure, SCIENCE is rapidly solving that one, but poverty and environmental issues keep killing those newborns right and left.

A **godly** announcement explaining why infants no loner will be dying would be quite effective proof too.

Those are two humble requests-- NEITHER is selfish in any way, as I have no babies of my own.

Here's another proof I'd accept:

A global announcement that ALL wars are now ENDED. Finis. No more wars will be allowed by God, regardless-- the announcement would outline the alternatives we humans now must use, to settle our national differences-- without **war** being on the table.

THAT would be pretty good proof, too!

Again? Not selfish in any way-- I'd love to see world peace.

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IS YOUR GOD UP TO ANY OF THESE TASKS?

No?

Why not?

Too weak?

“Sombrero Galaxy”

Since: Jan 10

I'm An Illegal Alien

#576 Aug 20, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I would accept any number of proofs, that demonstrate your god is real.
Anything **godly** for example: a sudden and immediate end to world-wide hunger would be a pretty good start-- accompanied with a global announcement in **all** languages at once, telling us why.
And even deaf people could "hear" the announcement.
That would work.
Here's another:
A sudden end to **all** infant mortality due to disease-- sure, SCIENCE is rapidly solving that one, but poverty and environmental issues keep killing those newborns right and left.
A **godly** announcement explaining why infants no loner will be dying would be quite effective proof too.
Those are two humble requests-- NEITHER is selfish in any way, as I have no babies of my own.
Here's another proof I'd accept:
A global announcement that ALL wars are now ENDED. Finis. No more wars will be allowed by God, regardless-- the announcement would outline the alternatives we humans now must use, to settle our national differences-- without **war** being on the table.
THAT would be pretty good proof, too!
Again? Not selfish in any way-- I'd love to see world peace.
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IS YOUR GOD UP TO ANY OF THESE TASKS?
No?
Why not?
Too weak?
What you are doing is subjecting to the same test that they did to the priests of Baal before they killed them. But Xtians, when asked to come up with thye same proof as they demanded form Baal's followers, will always refuse, claiming that their god is above the law.
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#577 Aug 20, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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I would accept any number of proofs, that demonstrate your god is real.
Anything **godly** for example: a sudden and immediate end to world-wide hunger would be a pretty good start-- accompanied with a global announcement in **all** languages at once, telling us why.
And even deaf people could "hear" the announcement.
That would work.
Here's another:
A sudden end to **all** infant mortality due to disease-- sure, SCIENCE is rapidly solving that one, but poverty and environmental issues keep killing those newborns right and left.
A **godly** announcement explaining why infants no loner will be dying would be quite effective proof too.
Those are two humble requests-- NEITHER is selfish in any way, as I have no babies of my own.
Here's another proof I'd accept:
A global announcement that ALL wars are now ENDED. Finis. No more wars will be allowed by God, regardless-- the announcement would outline the alternatives we humans now must use, to settle our national differences-- without **war** being on the table.
THAT would be pretty good proof, too!
Again? Not selfish in any way-- I'd love to see world peace.
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IS YOUR GOD UP TO ANY OF THESE TASKS?
No?
Why not?
Too weak?
Those are very good examples! However, what it sounds like you are looking for are "contemporary" miracles and providence, Correct?
FollowerofChrist

Fairmont, WV

#578 Aug 20, 2013
emperorjohn wrote:
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What you are doing is subjecting to the same test that they did to the priests of Baal before they killed them. But Xtians, when asked to come up with thye same proof as they demanded form Baal's followers, will always refuse, claiming that their god is above the law.
Not "above" the law, but the origin of law. Why should the One who exemplifies the law be expected to bow to you or anyone else who, by comparative definition, exemplifies lawlessness?

“Fortes Fortuna Juvat, ”

Since: Dec 09

Wichita. Ks.

#579 Aug 20, 2013
FollowerofChrist wrote:
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I don't know if this original poster is still monitoring this thread, but if so, what exactly would it take for you to believe anything we said? Could we possibly prove Him to you? If so, how?
Any true miracle such as the end of hate, hunger, useless deaths of children, this god come and show itself, this god present tangible evidence of said existence, This god be heard by all, there is a lot that can be considered proof. But proof or evidence must be testable.

Just the word of man is not good enough. And everything to date is only man’s word or writings.

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