Is religious people evil?
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#105 Jan 16, 2014
I only said this lobster was good enough for Jehovah.
TerryL wrote:
<quoted text>Blasphemer!
aman

Mumbai, India

#107 Jan 16, 2014
One single message to religions..BABA JI KA THULLU.
Thinking

Blaenau-ffestiniog, UK

#108 Jan 17, 2014
Same to homeopathy.
aman wrote:
One single message to religions..BABA JI KA THULLU.

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#109 Jan 17, 2014
Thinking wrote:
I only said this lobster was good enough for Jehovah.
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Wrapped in bacon?

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#110 Jan 17, 2014
I've had a busy week and can't reply to everyone, but i'll start with this genocide thing

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#111 Jan 17, 2014
Amused wrote:
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In order:
1 Genocide
.Numbers 21:34 And the LORD said unto Moses, Fear him not: for I have delivered him into thy hand, and all his people, and his land; and thou shalt do to him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon.
21:35 So they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land.
Deuteronomy 2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:
2:35 Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took.
2:36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us:
Deuteronomy 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
20:14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
20:15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:
Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
continued...
Can you please give me the full the story of all those verses instead of picking out one verse.

E.g It's like you reading a sentence in a book saying "kill them" and saying the knights are the bad guys in the book because of one sentence and not checking reason.

And i'm not stalling, I'm debating.

Also, just saying, God does bad things for good reasons. So yes, God does do bad, but good always comes out with it.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#112 Jan 17, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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Can you please give me the full the story of all those verses instead of picking out one verse.
E.g It's like you reading a sentence in a book saying "kill them" and saying the knights are the bad guys in the book because of one sentence and not checking reason.
And i'm not stalling, I'm debating.
Also, just saying, God does bad things for good reasons. So yes, God does do bad, but good always comes out with it.
God does bad things for good reasons?

Next thing you'll be telling us that the bad things Hitler did were for good reasons.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#113 Jan 17, 2014
Anyway, what are these "good reasons" you refer to?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#115 Jan 17, 2014
EXPERT wrote:
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Do you want to really make a moral argument?
CK says there are good reasons for killing people who opt for freedom of religion, genocide, slavery and killing homosexuals.

I'm asking what those reasons are.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#116 Jan 18, 2014
Ok, example of bad thing for good reason.

God killed almost the entire human race in Noah's flood, which was a terrible thing.

But it made more humans good people

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#117 Jan 18, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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CK says there are good reasons for killing people who opt for freedom of religion, genocide, slavery and killing homosexuals.
I'm asking what those reasons are.
We don't kill homosexuals, because if we do, why aren't the majority of Christians killing gays.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#118 Jan 18, 2014
Khatru wrote:
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CK says there are good reasons for killing people who opt for freedom of religion, genocide, slavery and killing homosexuals.
I'm asking what those reasons are.
In the bible, the people God killed were all cruel.

E.g, God killed many egyptians for trying to capture back and enslave the Hebrews. God lead the hebrews to overtake kingdoms which were not kingdoms of God and kingdom's God probably wanted for his people to live joyfully.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#119 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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We don't kill homosexuals, because if we do, why aren't the majority of Christians killing gays.
Why? You ask why? Well, because you don't believe in the bible god any more than we do. If you did,(out of pure fear) you would act like it ... you know following your gods orders ... stoning to death those who do not follow the bible as ordered.

Nice con you've all got going, no one acts on it, so everyone of you can pretend that it's A-Ok to not follow it. If you all the buybull god was real, you'd all be shitting yourselves to follow his orders.

There is a test that proves totally that he is not real, just follow his own prescription for the proof. Anything you ask(no qualifiers), anything you ask in his name, it will be done. LOL!

Christain: "Dear god, I ask in your name, kill all the gays, make me wealthy and make my neighbor stop laughing at my "Jesus Saves" signs. Oh, yeah and world peace."
'

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#120 Jan 18, 2014
Correction to above >> If you all thought that the buybull god was real, you'd all be shitting yourselves to follow his orders.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#121 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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In the bible, the people God killed were all cruel.
E.g, God killed many egyptians for trying to capture back and enslave the Hebrews. God lead the hebrews to overtake kingdoms which were not kingdoms of God and kingdom's God probably wanted for his people to live joyfully.
So you can live joyfully because your god killed all the evil infants?

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#122 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
Ok, example of bad thing for good reason.
God killed almost the entire human race in Noah's flood, which was a terrible thing.
But it made more humans good people
So you admit that your god does evil?

In this case he killed pretty much everyone because the "sons of god" had injected evil DNA into human women which resulted in corrupt and evil babies being born?

Except that plan never worked of he wouldn't have had to plot and scheme to have hus son tortured and killed.

Pretty poor showing for a cosmic mega being who is supposed to be omnipotent.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#123 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
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We don't kill homosexuals, because if we do, why aren't the majority of Christians killing gays.
Looks like you're disobeying your god's instructions.

Perhaps it's because you know his orders are evil.

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#124 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
In the bible, the people God killed were all cruel.
Yeah, that guy your god had killed for picking up sticks sure was cruel. I guess the 70,000 Israelites killed by your god because he was miffed about a census were also cruel.

I nearly forgot about the millions of children and babies your god has killed. Man, they sure were cruel.

Carchar king wrote:
E.g, God killed many egyptians for trying to capture back and enslave the Hebrews. God lead the hebrews to overtake kingdoms which were not kingdoms of God and kingdom's God probably wanted for his people to live joyfully.
That'll be the thousands of innocent people your god killed because he "hardened Pharaoh's heart". Your dumb god did this on a number of occasions. If he hadn't have done that, the Hebrews would have been released a lot sooner.

The trouble with your god is that he just loves to torture and kill and that makes him evil.

Pharaoh would never have tried to capture back the Hebrews if your god had left him alone..

"And the Lord hardened the heart of Pharaoh king of Egypt, and he pursued after the children of Israel: and the children of Israel went out with an high hand."

~ Exodus 14:8~

Since: Apr 08

Cambridge, UK

#125 Jan 18, 2014
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>So you can live joyfully because your god killed all the evil infants?
It's a sick and twisted religion these people have.

After all, no country is entirely evil and even in the worst societies there are plenty of good people.

It's a simple fact but one that appears to elude that dumb bible god.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#126 Jan 18, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
Ok, example of bad thing for good reason.
God killed almost the entire human race in Noah's flood, which was a terrible thing.
But it made more humans good people
Really? Because it appears to me that human nature did not change one iota after your imaginary flood. Assuming that there were a flood as described, in spite of the complete lack of evidence, and the impossibility that so much water could magically appear and later disappear, there's absolutely no evidence that such an event worked any change in human behavior.

Let's take it a bit further. If Noah and his family were all good, as you contend, and all the bad people were killed off, why would your benevolent god not use that as an opportunity to simply forgive the 'original sin' and move on. It would seem to make the whole narrative of needing to create and then sacrifice a son completely unnecessary.

In the absence of proof that the flood effected a change in human behavior, it is a story about your god gratuitously killing many people in a fit of temper.

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