Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#62 Jan 12, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Their all evil, BUT, that doesn't mean a christian(not muslim) did it.
"They're"

That was the word you were looking for.

OK

You say that genocide is evil

That makes your god evil for ordering the genocide of various tribes and peoples

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You say that slavery is evil

That makes your god evil for ordering that people are kidnapped and held as slaves against their will.
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You say that killing homosexuals is evil

That makes your god evil for wanting homosexuals executed.

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You say that killing people who exercise freedom of religion is evil

That makes your god evil for ordering the killing of people of other religions.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#63 Jan 13, 2014
lnc wrote:
<quoted text>
Yup.
If you want to have a war on the poor, cutting them off medical care and food and pretend to be a Christian you have a major problem.
Rush L. seems to have issues with the new Pope.
If Rush ever actually read the bible, he'd realize he has more problems with the Pope's boss than he does with the pope.

“In God we trust”

Since: Dec 12

Cape Town, South Africa

#64 Jan 14, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
"They're"
That was the word you were looking for.
OK
You say that genocide is evil
That makes your god evil for ordering the genocide of various tribes and peoples
==========
You say that slavery is evil
That makes your god evil for ordering that people are kidnapped and held as slaves against their will.
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You say that killing homosexuals is evil
That makes your god evil for wanting homosexuals executed.
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You say that killing people who exercise freedom of religion is evil
That makes your god evil for ordering the killing of people of other religions.
Ok, tell me where we caused genocide.

2. IF anyone enslaved anyone, it was the evil egyptians who enslaved the hebrews which God
SET FREE.

3. Christians don't hate homosexuals and they don't want them killed nor does God. We just dislike what they do and that is being gay. We don't want them killed, thats why in the Bible it says "Do not kill".

4. What the hell, we RESPECT other people's beliefs. You atheists really try looking at the bible in the worst way possible.

Yes the bible that says do not kill or steal or do any wrong is evil. Yes jesus is evil for saving everyone.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#65 Jan 14, 2014
Learn to read. Your bible says raping kids is OK but consenting same sex is not.
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, tell me where we caused genocide.
2. IF anyone enslaved anyone, it was the evil egyptians who enslaved the hebrews which God
SET FREE.
3. Christians don't hate homosexuals and they don't want them killed nor does God. We just dislike what they do and that is being gay. We don't want them killed, thats why in the Bible it says "Do not kill".
4. What the hell, we RESPECT other people's beliefs. You atheists really try looking at the bible in the worst way possible.
Yes the bible that says do not kill or steal or do any wrong is evil. Yes jesus is evil for saving everyone.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#66 Jan 14, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, tell me where we caused genocide.
2. IF anyone enslaved anyone, it was the evil egyptians who enslaved the hebrews which God
SET FREE.
3. Christians don't hate homosexuals and they don't want them killed nor does God. We just dislike what they do and that is being gay. We don't want them killed, thats why in the Bible it says "Do not kill".
4. What the hell, we RESPECT other people's beliefs. You atheists really try looking at the bible in the worst way possible.
Yes the bible that says do not kill or steal or do any wrong is evil. Yes jesus is evil for saving everyone.
In order:

1 Genocide
.Numbers 21:34 And the LORD said unto Moses, Fear him not: for I have delivered him into thy hand, and all his people, and his land; and thou shalt do to him as thou didst unto Sihon king of the Amorites, which dwelt at Heshbon.
21:35 So they smote him, and his sons, and all his people, until there was none left him alive: and they possessed his land.

Deuteronomy 2:33 And the LORD our God delivered him before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people.
2:34 And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain:
2:35 Only the cattle we took for a prey unto ourselves, and the spoil of the cities which we took.
2:36 From Aroer, which is by the brink of the river of Arnon, and from the city that is by the river, even unto Gilead, there was not one city too strong for us: the LORD our God delivered all unto us:

Deuteronomy 20:10 When thou comest nigh unto a city to fight against it, then proclaim peace unto it.
20:11 And it shall be, if it make thee answer of peace, and open unto thee, then it shall be, that all the people that is found therein shall be tributaries unto thee, and they shall serve thee.
20:12 And if it will make no peace with thee, but will make war against thee, then thou shalt besiege it:
20:13 And when the LORD thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:
20:14 But the women, and the little ones, and the cattle, and all that is in the city, even all the spoil thereof, shalt thou take unto thyself; and thou shalt eat the spoil of thine enemies, which the LORD thy God hath given thee.
20:15 Thus shalt thou do unto all the cities which are very far off from thee, which are not of the cities of these nations.
20:16 But of the cities of these people, which the LORD thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
20:17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the LORD thy God hath commanded thee:

Joshua 6:21 And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.

Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

continued...
Amused

Lowell, MA

#67 Jan 14, 2014
2.Slavery:

Levitticus 25:44 Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
25:45 Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
25:46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.

Exodus 21:2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
21:3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.
21:4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.
21:5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:
21:6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.
21:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
21:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

Exodus 21:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
21:21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

Levitticus 22:10 There shall no stranger eat of the holy thing: a sojourner of the priest, or an hired servant, shall not eat of the holy thing.
22:11 But if the priest buy any soul with his money, he shall eat of it, and he that is born in his house: they shall eat of his meat.

1 Timothy 6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
6:2 And they that have believing masters, let them not despise them, because they are brethren; but rather do them service, because they are faithful and beloved, partakers of the benefit. These things teach and exhort.
6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,

3. Homosexuality

Levitticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Jude 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

Although Jesus does seem to have been OK with the ghey:

Luke 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two men in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
17:35 Two women shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

continued...
Amused

Lowell, MA

#68 Jan 14, 2014
4. Tolerance of other beliefs

Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.

2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

Tell us, have you ever actually read any of your bible? It would appear not, as you have no understanding of the contents of the bible whatsoever. You apparently just make sh*t up about what your religion teaches. Probably because the truth is as repugnant to you as it is to all the many atheists driven away from your faith by the ugly truth of what the bible teaches.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#69 Jan 14, 2014
Carchar king wrote:
<quoted text>
Ok, tell me where we caused genocide.
2. IF anyone enslaved anyone, it was the evil egyptians who enslaved the hebrews which God
SET FREE.
3. Christians don't hate homosexuals and they don't want them killed nor does God. We just dislike what they do and that is being gay. We don't want them killed, thats why in the Bible it says "Do not kill".
4. What the hell, we RESPECT other people's beliefs. You atheists really try looking at the bible in the worst way possible.
Yes the bible that says do not kill or steal or do any wrong is evil. Yes jesus is evil for saving everyone.
Fact: You said that genocide, killing homosexuals, slavery and killing people of other religions is evil.

Fact: The god of the bible instructs his followers to do all of these.

Fact - Since the god of the Bible is does what you openly acknowledge to be evil acts, that makes your god evil.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#70 Jan 14, 2014
Amused wrote:
4. Tolerance of other beliefs
Deuteronomy 13:6 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers;
13:7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
13:8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
13:9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
13:10 And thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the LORD thy God, which brought thee out of the land of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
13:11 And all Israel shall hear, and fear, and shall do no more any such wickedness as this is among you.
13:12 If thou shalt hear say in one of thy cities, which the LORD thy God hath given thee to dwell there, saying,
13:13 Certain men, the children of Belial, are gone out from among you, and have withdrawn the inhabitants of their city, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which ye have not known;
13:14 Then shalt thou enquire, and make search, and ask diligently; and, behold, if it be truth, and the thing certain, that such abomination is wrought among you;
13:15 Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.
13:16 And thou shalt gather all the spoil of it into the midst of the street thereof, and shalt burn with fire the city, and all the spoil thereof every whit, for the LORD thy God: and it shall be an heap for ever; it shall not be built again.
2 Chronicles 15:13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.
Tell us, have you ever actually read any of your bible? It would appear not, as you have no understanding of the contents of the bible whatsoever. You apparently just make sh*t up about what your religion teaches. Probably because the truth is as repugnant to you as it is to all the many atheists driven away from your faith by the ugly truth of what the bible teaches.
Thanks for this.

It saved me some time!

Looks like CK doesn't know the bible as well as he thinks he does.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#71 Jan 14, 2014
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for this.
It saved me some time!
Looks like CK doesn't know the bible as well as he thinks he does.
It is always a source of amusement when atheists have to take christians to bible school and show them what is actually in the big doorstop of a book they profess to love and obey. Most of them haven't a clue.

For his next act, antiatheist will pull out his True Believer Secret Decoder Ring (TM) to show us that none of the quoted passages "really" means anything remotely resembling the plain English meaning of the words cited. Because, of course, an omnipotent being lacks the power to speak understandably, or to empower those translating his most important book accurately and clearly.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#72 Jan 14, 2014
Ooops. Cachar King, not antiatheist. The fundies all run together in my head after a while.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#73 Jan 15, 2014
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
It is always a source of amusement when atheists have to take christians to bible school and show them what is actually in the big doorstop of a book they profess to love and obey. Most of them haven't a clue.
For his next act, antiatheist will pull out his True Believer Secret Decoder Ring (TM) to show us that none of the quoted passages "really" means anything remotely resembling the plain English meaning of the words cited. Because, of course, an omnipotent being lacks the power to speak understandably, or to empower those translating his most important book accurately and clearly.
Lol

That's about the size of it.

CK will probably come back with some secret xtian definitions for genocide, slavery, killing gays, killing people of other religions that you won't find in the Oxford English Dictionary.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#74 Jan 15, 2014
Amused wrote:
Ooops. Cachar King, not antiatheist. The fundies all run together in my head after a while.
I know what you mean, it's like a constant stream of effluent pouring out of a broken sewage pipe.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#75 Jan 15, 2014
Same sh!t, different bucket. Neither are honest.
Amused wrote:
Ooops. Cachar King, not antiatheist. The fundies all run together in my head after a while.
soul

India

#76 Jan 15, 2014
If religious person are stupid then atheist are even more stupid..if they don't believe god then how they xplain creation of universe?? Wrkng of nature etc etc. There is some energy behind all these and that energy is god..u can give any name to it..whether god,allah etc etc. But yes all religions are man-made not told by god to anyone. Actually religions were made to cntrl the masses by the kings..and the religious scriptrs like bible,quran,vedas etc.contain science,moral sciences,political sciences of that time..they were not religious text they were just like text books we read today in our studies.but misconcption among iliterate people made them text by god..so the person who believes in religions are by god then he has blind faith nothing else.and person who says there is no god then he is even worst. There is god but not religion specific..and religions are man made
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#77 Jan 15, 2014
If you can find one fact that I don't know, it is no proof of god.
soul wrote:
If religious person are stupid then atheist are even more stupid..if they don't believe god then how they xplain creation of universe?? Wrkng of nature etc etc. There is some energy behind all these and that energy is god..u can give any name to it..whether god,allah etc etc. But yes all religions are man-made not told by god to anyone. Actually religions were made to cntrl the masses by the kings..and the religious scriptrs like bible,quran,vedas etc.contain science,moral sciences,political sciences of that time..they were not religious text they were just like text books we read today in our studies.but misconcption among iliterate people made them text by god..so the person who believes in religions are by god then he has blind faith nothing else.and person who says there is no god then he is even worst. There is god but not religion specific..and religions are man made
soul

India

#78 Jan 15, 2014
And some religious people say that religions tell what is moraly right and what is wrong..then answer to those..find definitn of right and wrong from your own soul it will tell you better about right and wrong than religions.

Since: Apr 08

Nottingham, UK

#79 Jan 15, 2014
soul wrote:
If religious person are stupid then atheist are even more stupid..if they don't believe god then how they xplain creation of universe?? Wrkng of nature etc etc. There is some energy behind all these and that energy is god..u can give any name to it..whether god,allah etc etc. But yes all religions are man-made not told by god to anyone. Actually religions were made to cntrl the masses by the kings..and the religious scriptrs like bible,quran,vedas etc.contain science,moral sciences,political sciences of that time..they were not religious text they were just like text books we read today in our studies.but misconcption among iliterate people made them text by god..so the person who believes in religions are by god then he has blind faith nothing else.and person who says there is no god then he is even worst. There is god but not religion specific..and religions are man made
The universe was created by a lobster called Eric.

If you don't know that then you're dumb.
Thinking

Yeovil, UK

#80 Jan 15, 2014
Cockney lobster walks into a pub giving it all that...[mimes rapid opening and closing of a claw]
Khatru wrote:
<quoted text>
The universe was created by a lobster called Eric.
If you don't know that then you're dumb.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#81 Jan 15, 2014
soul wrote:
If religious person are stupid then atheist are even more stupid..if they don't believe god then how they xplain creation of universe?? Wrkng of nature etc etc. There is some energy behind all these and that energy is god..u can give any name to it..whether god,allah etc etc. But yes all religions are man-made not told by god to anyone. Actually religions were made to cntrl the masses by the kings..and the religious scriptrs like bible,quran,vedas etc.contain science,moral sciences,political sciences of that time..they were not religious text they were just like text books we read today in our studies.but misconcption among iliterate people made them text by god..so the person who believes in religions are by god then he has blind faith nothing else.and person who says there is no god then he is even worst. There is god but not religion specific..and religions are man made
Not knowing how the universe began is not a license to make up stories. It simply means we need to be honest that we don't know. We are closer to knowing than we were even 25 years ago. We may never know the complete answer. Then again we might someday know. Better that the progress towards an answer not be slowed by having science swim upstream against a current of myth.

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