Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Relig...

Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

There are 1726 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Aug 28, 2013, titled Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",.... In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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barry

Pisgah, AL

#1555 Nov 4, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone were to provide absolute proof that elves or leprechauns or deities or unicorns actually existed, of course I would believe they existed.
In the meantime, however, there are far too many things that actually do exist that one can devote his time and thoughts to...
so while you (don't have an active belief that there are no deities )you also admit that you don{t really have time for God anyway. or at least you don{t have time time to investigate with an open mind. you are waiting for someone else to do it for you and then convince you.
barry

Pisgah, AL

#1556 Nov 4, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
No, its impossible, lying about god is pointless.
the reply was written to JT. you are obviously not JT. JT seems to know how to hold a civil conversation. you tend to lack that quality.

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#1557 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism does not denote "not having" something.
It denotes "having".
What atheism denotes "having" is a particular belief.
"Atheism: a + theos, denying god" (Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology).
If you want to discuss whether you believe in stamp collecting or baldness, Nikon, then you would be comparing apples to apples.
...if you believe in apples.
bullshit atheism isn't a belief

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#1558 Nov 4, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
bullshit atheism isn't a belief
So says you, Sikko. Academic references say otherwise.

Do we take academic references, or, in your case, dumb ass references?

Atheism, from the Greek a-theos ("no-god"), is the philosophical position that God doesn't exist. It is distinguished from agnosticism, the argument that it is impossible to know whether God exists or not (Academic American Encyclopedia).
Atheism, system of thought developed around the denial of God's existence. Atheism, so defined, first appeared during the Enlightenment, the age of reason (Random House Encyclopedia-1977).
Atheism is the doctrine that there is no God.(Oxford Companion to Philosophy-1995).
Atheism (Greek, a-[private prefix]+ theos, god) is the view that there is no divine being, no God (Dictionary of Philosophy, Thomas Mautner, Editor-1996).
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist (The World Book Encyclopedia-1991).
Atheism, commonly speaking, is the denial of God. Theism (from the Greek theos, God) is belief in or conceptualization of God, atheism is the rejection of such belief or conceptualization.In the ancient world atheism was rarely a clearly formulated position (Encyclopedia Americana-1990).
Atheism, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswerable, for the atheist, the non-existence of god is a certainty (The New Encyclopedia Britannia-1993).
According to the most usual definition, an atheist is a person who maintains that there is no god…(rejects eccentric definitions of the word)(The Encyclopedia of Philosophy-1967).
Atheism is the doctrine that God does not exist, that belief in the existence of God is a false belief. The word God here refers to a divine being regarded as the independent creator of the world, a being superlatively powerful, wise and good (Encyclopedia of Religion-1987).
Atheism (Greek and Roman): Atheism is a dogmatic creed, consisting in the denial of every kind of supernatural power. Atheism has not often been seriously maintained at any period of civilized thought (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics-Vol II).
Atheism denies the existence of deity (Funk and Wagnall's New Encyclopedia-Vol I).

“Leave That Thing Alone!”

Since: Nov 07

Location hidden

#1559 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
So says you, Sikko. Academic references say otherwise.
Do we take academic references, or, in your case, dumb ass references?
Atheism, from the Greek a-theos ("no-god"), is the philosophical position that God doesn't exist. It is distinguished from agnosticism, the argument that it is impossible to know whether God exists or not (Academic American Encyclopedia).
Atheism, system of thought developed around the denial of God's existence. Atheism, so defined, first appeared during the Enlightenment, the age of reason (Random House Encyclopedia-1977).
Atheism is the doctrine that there is no God.(Oxford Companion to Philosophy-1995).
Atheism (Greek, a-[private prefix]+ theos, god) is the view that there is no divine being, no God (Dictionary of Philosophy, Thomas Mautner, Editor-1996).
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist (The World Book Encyclopedia-1991).
Atheism, commonly speaking, is the denial of God. Theism (from the Greek theos, God) is belief in or conceptualization of God, atheism is the rejection of such belief or conceptualization.In the ancient world atheism was rarely a clearly formulated position (Encyclopedia Americana-1990).
Atheism, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswerable, for the atheist, the non-existence of god is a certainty (The New Encyclopedia Britannia-1993).
According to the most usual definition, an atheist is a person who maintains that there is no god…(rejects eccentric definitions of the word)(The Encyclopedia of Philosophy-1967).
Atheism is the doctrine that God does not exist, that belief in the existence of God is a false belief. The word God here refers to a divine being regarded as the independent creator of the world, a being superlatively powerful, wise and good (Encyclopedia of Religion-1987).
Atheism (Greek and Roman): Atheism is a dogmatic creed, consisting in the denial of every kind of supernatural power. Atheism has not often been seriously maintained at any period of civilized thought (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics-Vol II).
Atheism denies the existence of deity (Funk and Wagnall's New Encyclopedia-Vol I).
How does one deny the existence of something that can't be shown to exist in the first place? And.... go

“Sweden more democratic thanUSA”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#1560 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
So says you, Sikko. Academic references say otherwise.
Do we take academic references, or, in your case, dumb ass references?
Atheism, from the Greek a-theos ("no-god"), is the philosophical position that God doesn't exist. It is distinguished from agnosticism, the argument that it is impossible to know whether God exists or not (Academic American Encyclopedia).
Atheism, system of thought developed around the denial of God's existence. Atheism, so defined, first appeared during the Enlightenment, the age of reason (Random House Encyclopedia-1977).
Atheism is the doctrine that there is no God.(Oxford Companion to Philosophy-1995).
Atheism (Greek, a-[private prefix]+ theos, god) is the view that there is no divine being, no God (Dictionary of Philosophy, Thomas Mautner, Editor-1996).
Atheism is the belief that God doesn't exist (The World Book Encyclopedia-1991).
Atheism, commonly speaking, is the denial of God. Theism (from the Greek theos, God) is belief in or conceptualization of God, atheism is the rejection of such belief or conceptualization.In the ancient world atheism was rarely a clearly formulated position (Encyclopedia Americana-1990).
Atheism, the critique and denial of metaphysical beliefs in God or spiritual beings. Atheism is to be distinguished from agnosticism, which leaves open whether there is a god or not, professing to find the question unanswerable, for the atheist, the non-existence of god is a certainty (The New Encyclopedia Britannia-1993).
According to the most usual definition, an atheist is a person who maintains that there is no god…(rejects eccentric definitions of the word)(The Encyclopedia of Philosophy-1967).
Atheism is the doctrine that God does not exist, that belief in the existence of God is a false belief. The word God here refers to a divine being regarded as the independent creator of the world, a being superlatively powerful, wise and good (Encyclopedia of Religion-1987).
Atheism (Greek and Roman): Atheism is a dogmatic creed, consisting in the denial of every kind of supernatural power. Atheism has not often been seriously maintained at any period of civilized thought (Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics-Vol II).
Atheism denies the existence of deity (Funk and Wagnall's New Encyclopedia-Vol I).
Butt crack spreads lies from other liars

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#1561 Nov 4, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so while you (don't have an active belief that there are no deities )you also admit that you don{t really have time for God anyway. or at least you don{t have time time to investigate with an open mind. you are waiting for someone else to do it for you and then convince you.
Which of the thousands of gods that have been worshipped by man over the eons should I investigate first and in what order should I investigate them?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1562 Nov 4, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>I see- you made a claim that you could prove something and you cannot. IOW, you're the hypocrite. Right up there with the dinosaur hypothesis.
No-- I just disagreed with **YOUR** ludicrous and insane claim that the BuyBull supports -- in ANY WAY -- free will.

It does not.

It is up to YOU to prove that it DOES.

You have MUCH BuyBull reading to do-- to try to fine ANY VERSE which supports FREE WILL.

You **will** fail-- because it does not support it.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1563 Nov 4, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>Wrong again, mr hypocrite. Please prove that we claim to "know it all". PS- lumping us all together is also stereotyping, which is a form of prejudice. Not very logical...
Your claim that there is a god who created the universe?

Is **exactly** a "know it all" claim, silly bird!

Seriously-- your ludicrous and insane claim to have a **personal** relationship with the Ultimate Creator of the Universe?

Is a display of such a **massive** ego, that it's amazing you can even breathe-- what with your ego sucking up all the oxygen in your room like that...

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1564 Nov 4, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>No, you simply said they could not. There is a basic difference between "knowing" and "influencing" but you cannot grasp the difference. Is it possible you have no children?
Poor Huntcoyotes-- is your massively bloated ego sucking up all the oxygen again?

And you can no longer think for yourself?

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1565 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism,
Your carefully edited bullshyt is ignored.

You left out the important (and factual) bits, Buckster.

You prove once more-- you operate as a mindless process.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1566 Nov 4, 2013
huntcoyotes wrote:
<quoted text>...and yet that "tyrant" gave you life and reasons to be happy. He doesn't need your judgement inre that "...most ridiculous of reasons" but allowed you the free will to think so. Actually, if you do a little research, you will find that children are enslaved in a lot of places. I'll bet half your wardrobe was made by slave labor.
Your massive bloated ego-god has not been proven to be real, silly bird!

So your argument above? Is a total failure.

As are you.

Sad.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1567 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
We are not talking about "you" and "I". If we were talking about "you" and "I", you would be correct.
When omniscience is introduced, chronologically "prior" knowledge is not absolutely "prior" or logically "prior".
The event causes the foreknowledge; not vice versa.
"Time" and "tense" are products of the physical universe.
Some entity independent of the physical universe would be, well, independent.
Witness the mindless process that is the Buckster's posts.

Sad, isn't it?

This poster would fail the Turing Test.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1568 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Then, if what you say is true, you are an agnostic.
I already supplied terms ....
Who died and let **YOU** be the Decider on the meaning of words, Buckster?

Hmmm?

You are just an example of a mindless process at work.

Someone started a program, and it's stuck in an infinite goto loop: that is you.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1569 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheists are chronic liars, I find.
Says the person who is a self-admitted sociopath, criminal and convict.

LOL!

You have no credibility, Buckster-- none at all.

You are just a mindless process.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1570 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
Incorrect.
No logical barrier to omniscience and free will co-existing.
Your thought process is your barrier.
False: any deity which is all-knowing-- including the one-and-only **future**?

Eliminates any possibility of anyone having free will.

For no mere mortal could go against what this all-knowing deity **already** knows-- the one-and-only future.

Once a universe has an all-knowing being exist? Then-- all free will is gone, and everyone is must follow the pre-written knowledge of this all-knowing deity.

The two cannot co-exist in the same universe.

Period.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1571 Nov 4, 2013
CrimeaRiver wrote:
<quoted text>
Now thats where we would differ. I should perhaps rephrase the sentnece to read; 'the lack of evidence suggests no deity exists'.
You are obviously articulate and probably well read, which makes you the exception among Topix' Theists.
That wasn't a backhanded insult. You appear to be capable of reasoned thought. So I'm curious to understand what you consider 'EVIDENCE' with regard to the existence of God.
Be careful: the Buckster is a sociopath, and **will* start calling you all sorts of ugly names, if you keep going against him like this.

Just wait-- he'll have another melt down any day now.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1572 Nov 4, 2013
Buck Crick wrote:
<quoted text>
I beg to differ. The evidence for god far surpasses evidence for extraterrestrial physical life, for which there is none.
Oh, Buck, Buck, Buck: your **opinion** is not **evidence**.

You silly bird!

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#1573 Nov 4, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>so while you (don't have an active belief that there are no deities )you also admit that you don{t really have time for God anyway. or at least you don{t have time time to investigate with an open mind. you are waiting for someone else to do it for you and then convince you.
I've been asking for **proof** of any god, on Topix, since 2005.

So far?

All you god-robots can do? Is offer your **opinion** and **nothing** else.

Hmmmm... that is pretty damning right there--

-- if a god were real? There would be *godly* evidence in abundance.

But there just is no such thing!

For example: if a god was real, and answered prayers even at a 10% level of "yes"?

Then-- it would be easy to statistically sample people who believe in this god, against people who do not, and you'd quickly see the answered-prayer-advantage.

Even if the "yes" was as little as 1%!

But what we **actually** see? Is the **exact** same "yes" answers among the god-belivers and the **Non-believers** alike!

The **exact** same.

So, it is quite safe to dismiss praying as proof of any and all gods.

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#1574 Nov 4, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
No-- I just disagreed with **YOUR** ludicrous and insane claim that the BuyBull supports -- in ANY WAY -- free will.
It does not.
It is up to YOU to prove that it DOES.
You have MUCH BuyBull reading to do-- to try to fine ANY VERSE which supports FREE WILL.
You **will** fail-- because it does not support it.
Bob, bob, bob...you claimed you could prove something and now you're telling me I have to? Tsk tsk tsk...

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