Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Relig...

Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

There are 1726 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Aug 28, 2013, titled Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",.... In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Gateway Pundit.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#105 Sep 1, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Yammer on with vacant nothingness. C'mon mental giant, show everyone your copy of Being and Nothingness. Tell us how thick it is.
No that's ok Ill just leave that up to you as you've demonstrated that your way more qualified than me lol
barry

Henagar, AL

#106 Sep 1, 2013
Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
That might possibly be true if you actually got your morals from the bible. In fact, you don't. You apply an independent moral sense derived from outside the bible to decide which biblical commands and precepts you will follow, and which you will consign to the pile of things that are no longer 'valid'.
* You don't kill people who work on Sunday, or children who sass back at their parents, although the bible commands both with enthusiasm at least equal to that with which it condemns homosexuality.
* You wouldn't get drunk and impregnate your daughters, although the bible holds up Lot, who did those things, as an example of a 'moral' person.
* You don't practice polygamy, although the bible is shot through with such folks as King David, who had hundreds of wives and concubines, which apparently bothered god not at all.
* You don't keep slaves, although the biblical god was quite keen on the practice, prescribing very detailed rules on who could be held as a slave, for how long, how the master must treat them, how much they were worth if you had to recompense the owner for the death of a slave, etc.
* You disapprove of armies exterminating the civilian population of occupied territories, although the bible god became quite miffed when the Israelite armies spared some of the womenfolk, in spite of his specific injunction to kill everyone.
The existence of a moral sense, extrinsic to the bible, which you use in deciding which biblical moral precepts to follow and which to ignore proves that the source of morality is not the bible. The fact that the basics of morality, a disapproval of murder, stealing, telling lies, or committing adultery seem to be the same in all human societies, regardless of the presence or absence of any organized religion suggests that the source of morality may be inherent in humanity.
If religion makes you moral, then religious people should behave in a moral way, regardless of social constraints. In Montreal, in the 1960's or early 70's, the city police department went on strike. Montreal is a fairly religious place. There's quite a few churches, which were fairly well attended at the time. There's a number of religious orders that originated in Montreal and still have their headquarters there. You would expect that the good, religious folks of Montreal would behave in moral ways whether the police were present or not. In fact, the police strike led to shootings, arsons, mass looting, and people generally going all Lord of the Flies until the RCMP could muster enough officers to restore order. Proof, if it were ever needed, that H.L. Mencken was right when he said, "People say we need religion, when what they mean is we need police."
what a crock of misrepresented, out of context distortions. but then what would anyone expect?

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#107 Sep 1, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>what a crock of misrepresented, out of context distortions. but then what would anyone expect?
Oh the irony. See it is the religious that misrepresent their religion.

But then again what would you expect.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#108 Sep 1, 2013
What's wrong with you, Mykro, that you can't tell the difference between traditional (Pauline) Christianity and what I wrote about, which is Gnosticism, Gnosis of God? You may need to go back to college and learn about the earliest Christian groups and find out you're reacting to a theological group which, yes, attained immense political power by attaching itself to the Roman Empire at the beginning, but which our Gnostic groups had nothing but trouble with, Gnostic Christians being the very first group of believers that the Roman Catholic Church branded heretics and sentenced their books to burning, exiles and mass killings. Over a 100,000 Gnostic Christians died in the early Middle Ages in Languedoc, France. Don't lump us with your strawwoman "Christian", please.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#109 Sep 1, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>BullSHiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iit. No one has a 'catholic' ball and chain on their leg.
Fact you can't leave the catholic church you are a member for life

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#110 Sep 1, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Yammer on with vacant nothingness. C'mon mental giant, show everyone your copy of Being and Nothingness. Tell us how thick it is.
Another creationist coward who runs like an idiot when asked to prove even 1 atom of their cult / mental illness being real or true.

Since: Jun 12

Location hidden

#111 Sep 1, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>BullSHiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iit. No one has a 'catholic' ball and chain on their leg.
http://www.technomancy.org/catholic-defection...

Leaving the Catholic Church no longer possible
Cordwainer Trout

Elizabethtown, KY

#112 Sep 2, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
<quoted text>
Another creationist coward who runs like an idiot when asked to prove even 1 atom of their cult / mental illness being real or true.
The small exchange involved pointing out the atheist dogma Jean Paul Sartre worked to establish in a significant philosophical attempt he published, something of which most fake atheists here are unaware.

The most disgusting thing about you arrogant creatures is that the dope and anger has actually convinced you to stop learning.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#113 Sep 2, 2013
Religion. It's nothing but trouble these days.

Religion = superstition. It's divisive and outdated.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#114 Sep 2, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact you can't leave the catholic church you are a member for life
They try that, but it doesn't work.

When I left the RC Church people tried to talk of me as a 'lapsed Catholic'. It would be funny if they hadn't been serious. To be fair, most of them accepted the absurdity of perceiving non-believers that way when it was pointed out to them.

One doesn't 'lose faith', one rejects superstition. Non-belief (or atheism, or agnosticism as theologians might call it) is as simple as that. Abrahamic religions are straight-forward superstitions leading to bizarre behaviors....
https://www.google.co.uk/search...

Sadly, in the UK, faith schools often tend to segregate children according to their parents religious delusions.

Since: Nov 12

Eureka, CA

#115 Sep 2, 2013
Ed, who has the delusions? You need to study the fact that one of the primary behaviors of homo sapiens that can be traced as far back in time as homo sapiens have been around is religious behavior. You have to explain why Nature would evolve into the human brain the capacity to experience spiritual phenomena when you atheists try to tell us there's nothing there to experience. 40,000+ years of very serious human attention being paid to events you atheists say do not exist. Please explain why our brains have this capacity. Some of us don't have it developed--like I did when I too was an atheist until age 35 and went through a most profound religious experience that completely demolished my former atheist ignorance of spiritual reality underlying our physical one. Like Shakespeare pointed out, there's more going on to even atheist reality than what is perceived in one's lack of spiritual experience. When you have had spiritual experience, then come back and tell us why it's invalid but until you or any atheist have had such, you guys just do not know what you're talking about yet have all these most strong opinions like straw-bosses giving their opinions from the sidewalk looking on at the construction workers doing the actual heavy lifting.
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#116 Sep 2, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Ed, who has the delusions? You need to study the fact that one of the primary behaviors of homo sapiens that can be traced as far back in time as homo sapiens have been around is religious behavior.
I did.

Proof of delusions...
https://www.google.co.uk/search...
biomystic wrote:
You have to explain why Nature would evolve into the human brain the capacity to experience spiritual phenomena ...
That is what you need to study.

If one claims there's a god, it is up to the claimant to prove it by scientific analysis or shut-up and keep silly superstitions to themselves. Simple as that. I am not stopping anyone from being as crazy or superstitious as they please. I'm simply pointing it out.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#117 Sep 2, 2013
Cordwainer Trout wrote:
<quoted text>
Jean Paul Sartre sure put a lot of effort into something that's not a dogma... trying to establish a basis in atheism for morality and failing miserably with a lot of jargon... sort of like you, diapershit.
Again The dogma of atheism is nonexistent. It doesn't exist. It doesn't exist, and you or no other human being can define a single bit of it, because it doesn't exist. You are an idiot! The word "atheism" means "without theism", as in without any of that dogma that defines theism. Do you get it, that's the definitive word here is "without", as in no theism.

And very much unlike myself, what you claim for that Sartre person is just silly. It too, is impossible.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#118 Sep 2, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Atheism is a fundamentalist religious mindset held exactly the same way other religious mindsets are held against any evidence contradicting the mindset. All human activities showing 40,000+ years of immense human interest in spiritual phenomena are just tossed out by atheists. So too are the increasing number of brain studies showing how spiritual consciousness reception capacity has been evolved into our human brain structure. All this is tossed aside by atheists just as fundamentalist Christians toss aside any evidence (or lack of it) for the belief claims of a God-Man acting out God for human beings to see for themselves. The DOJ just did the right categorization, probably accidentally as I don't see DOJ as mental giants of religious research. Good job though, should be a wake up call for atheist reality but being fundies themselves they won't see it or listen to anything but the religiously held atheist mantra- there is no God because we have declared all evidence of such a phenomena as not worthy of consideration. We know what we believe and that's that.
You are not very good with facts are you? The "a' has a meaning. It means without. The word "atheism" means "without theism". You know .... no dogma at all!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#119 Sep 2, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>what a crock of misrepresented, out of context distortions. but then what would anyone expect?
So no actual buybull is needed for your type of Christainity either? That's actually good, because if the Christains knew what was really in it, there would be no Christains left. Well except those Christains that have no problem with cooking and eating their own children.
LCNLin

United States

#120 Sep 2, 2013
Opinion not documentation,
amusing

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#121 Sep 2, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Opinion not documentation,
amusing
Lincoln the creationist toilet, sh*tting his stupidity out again.

opinion not documentation describes your creationist mental illness well.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#122 Sep 2, 2013
Who wrote:
<quoted text>
Where and when did she supposedly say this?
Palin 2008. Soon after Sarah Palin was elected mayor of the foothill town of Wasilla, Alaska, she startled a local music teacher by insisting in casual conversation that men and dinosaurs coexisted on an Earth created 6,000 years ago -- about 65 million years after scientists say most dinosaurs became extinct -- the teacher said.

After conducting a college band and watching Palin deliver a commencement address to a small group of home-schooled students in June 1997, Wasilla resident Philip Munger said, he asked the young mayor about her religious beliefs
Palin told him that "dinosaurs and humans walked the Earth at the same time," Munger said. When he asked her about prehistoric fossils and tracks dating back millions of years, Palin said "she had seen pictures of human footprints inside the tracks," recalled Munger, who teaches music at the University of Alaska in Anchorage

The idea of a "young Earth" -- that God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago, and dinosaurs and humans coexisted early on -- is a popular strain of creationism.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#123 Sep 2, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
Fact you can't leave the catholic church you are a member for life
BullShiiiiiiiiiiiiiit. I'm 67 and haven't set foot in a 'catholic' church since I was 14. I left along time ago. Dumbass.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#124 Sep 2, 2013
biomystic wrote:
What's wrong with you, Mykro, that you can't tell the difference between traditional (Pauline) Christianity and what I wrote about, which is Gnosticism, Gnosis of God? You may need to go back to college and learn about the earliest Christian groups and find out you're reacting to a theological group which, yes, attained immense political power by attaching itself to the Roman Empire at the beginning, but which our Gnostic groups had nothing but trouble with, Gnostic Christians being the very first group of believers that the Roman Catholic Church branded heretics and sentenced their books to burning, exiles and mass killings. Over a 100,000 Gnostic Christians died in the early Middle Ages in Languedoc, France. Don't lump us with your strawwoman "Christian", please.
Who cares. If your 'god' is so loving and omniscient, why was there an Inquisition to begin with? Not powerful enough to stop his own deciples?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Atheism Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News Atheism, for Good Reason, Fears Questions (Jun '09) 2 hr Regolith Based Li... 32,169
hell is a real place. so.. ahtiesm is a faux li... 2 hr Eagle 12 - 12
News Why Atheist Richard Dawkins Supports Religious ... 2 hr Eagle 12 - 760
News "Science vs. Religion: What Scientists Really T... (Jan '12) 4 hr Science 76,945
News Nonsense of a high order: The confused world of... (Jan '17) 8 hr Dogen 4,309
News Atheism requires as much faith as religion? (Jul '09) 9 hr superwilly 258,476
News The war on Christmas (Dec '10) Jul 18 John 4,952
More from around the web