Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

There are 20 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Aug 28, 2013, titled Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",.... In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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LCNLin

United States

#839 Sep 25, 2013
Hitler was in fact an atheist

The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title,_Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:

Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:

National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.(p 6 & 7)

10th October, 1941, midday:

Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.(p 43)
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#840 Sep 25, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>As you said in the above post, no one gets a choice. I'd be Ok with that, if I didn't know better.
My choice? I made it alone. There is nothing in any of your god-myth's dirty books that could compell me to lay down my humanity.
rabbee: if you were to observe, you life story more closely. you would see, where all the choices were made for you. and as for humanity, you have no humanity. for without G-D, you are just another talking creature.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#841 Sep 25, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>
Silly billy!
In order to write something someone such as **you** may have a slight chance of understanding?
I am forced to write **down** to your reading level-- and so far? I figure you are about grade 3 or so.
In short?
You are ill equipped to tell if anyone is smarter than you are.
rabbee: oh! i understand everything, you are trying to say. you just can't accept, my rejecting it and you also. you have not the intelligence, to truly comprehend what is given to me to be said.

and what a lame excuse for your lack of intelligence, that you are trying to write down. when this is, all you know. i know from where you were given, all that you think is yours to say.

Since: Apr 09

Location hidden

#843 Sep 25, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Hey, atheists! Stop the stupid "troll" libels, OK? Remember, it's you atheists who are here on the Religion boards compulsively posting your anger at Christians so you have zero room to accuse anyone of being forum trolls. And like Mikko demonstrates everyday, you atheists tend to just sling slander mudpies and avoid any hard questions as the avoidance continues of my challenges to atheists irrationality, e.g. actually believing today's knowledge is definitive for all times, i.e. there's no tomorrow, no new additional science discoveries, and thus atheists know everything there is to know about spiritual phenomena. As if..
Feel free to ask a hard question if you want an answer...
Amused

Lowell, MA

#844 Sep 25, 2013
Let's all agree not to use the word "insane" in a thread title ever again. It seems to be some sort of magnet or dog whistle that attracts people to whom the adjective "insane" is perfectly applicable. Se, for example, the three posts preceding this one.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#845 Sep 25, 2013
Sorry about that, Just Think. You slipped that one in while I was typing.

“There is no god!”

Since: Jun 12

Södertälje, Sweden

#846 Sep 25, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Hitler was in fact an atheist
The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title,_Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.(p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.(p 43)
We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.

- Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933

http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...

" History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus."
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#847 Sep 25, 2013
biomystic wrote:
... Remember, it's you atheists who are here on the Religion boards ..
This thread is on the Atheist Forum too.

I suspect Topix thinks controversy sells more than dialogue.(They may be correct :-)
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#848 Sep 25, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
We were convinced that the people need and require this faith. We have therefore undertaken the fight against the atheistic movement, and that not merely with a few theoretical declarations: we have stamped it out.
- Adolf Hitler, Speech in Berlin, October 24, 1933
http://www.evilbible.com/hitler_was_christian...
" History is currently being distorted by the millions of Christians who lie to have us believe that the Holocaust was not a Christian deed. Through subterfuge and concealment, many of today’s Church leaders and faithful Christians have camouflaged the Christianity of Adolf Hitler and have attempted to mark him an atheist, a pagan cult worshipper, or a false Christian in order to place his misdeeds on those with out Jesus."
To be fair, Hitler was probably like many politicians of today - they don't take religion or superstition about god(s) too seriously.

I think the relevant points are that he was motivated by ideology and racism, not religion or atheism. There is no reason to even consider the hypothetical case of "what if he had been deeply and sincerely religious?" He wasn't (though possibly he was when young). There is no reason to believe that religion helped the situation, though superstition often seems to me to impair people's capacity for reason, so it might have made matters worse and added some sectarian tensions e.g. between the Jews and other religious sects,(as usual).
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#849 Sep 25, 2013
Amused wrote:
Let's all agree not to use the word "insane" in a thread title ever again. It seems to be some sort of magnet or dog whistle that attracts people to whom the adjective "insane" is perfectly applicable. Se, for example, the three posts preceding this one.
(Omitting Just Think's one :-)

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#850 Sep 25, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: if that is what your own, special mind has to say. as pretend true, for only you.
Maybe you should read your postings as diligently as I have read your postings. If you did, you would have seen what I saw .... You claim, that the Torah carries the proof that you have seen god.
You are the >>>> only one <<<< in the world with the truth.
No one gets any choice, but no matter what the faulty choice, it would be their own fault.

You are ill, mentally ill.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#852 Sep 25, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe you should read your postings as diligently as I have read your postings. If you did, you would have seen what I saw .... You claim, that the Torah carries the proof that you have seen god.
You are the >>>> only one <<<< in the world with the truth.
No one gets any choice, but no matter what the faulty choice, it would be their own fault.
You are ill, mentally ill.
rabbee: you can accuse me with your free will, mental illness all you like. but i dare you to find where i The-His Son adam is never mentioned in TheTorah - after the death of the He/She Benee Adam.

you have seen what your prejudice against G-D, wants for your vanity to see and no more. but do not mistake me, for i do not believe that any religion on earth today is, is any truer than atheism. they are all the same amount of, religious hooey as you are.
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#853 Sep 25, 2013
reasoner wrote:
<quoted text>
The natural world does not prove God. If you assume things look designed, they could have been designed by multiple gods, a good god or a bad one, an all-powerful one, or a team of lesser gods. Design flaws in us and other animals would indicate that a designer(s) if existed, are imperfect. Nature in itself does not indicate what designer there is if any.
Unfortunately, you are unaware of the science of philosophy and the science of theology.

In fact, you are probably unaware they are sciences.

Multiple gods is not possible by scientific definition.

The mortal universe in which everything is destructible including matter itself, does require a God to have created it.

You are living in a country heavily influenced by the incompetence of British Empiricism so it is natural for you to assume the natural world does not prove God's existence.
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#854 Sep 25, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
Hitler was in fact an atheist
The book Hitler's Secret Conversations 1941-1944 published by Farrar, Straus and Young, Inc.first edition, 1953, contains definitive proof of Hitler's real views. The book was published in Britain under the title,_Hitler's Table Talk 1941-1944, which title was used for the Oxford University Press paperback edition in the United States.
All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941:
National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.(p 6 & 7)
10th October, 1941, midday:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.(p 43)
Hitler taught that the Nazi party would replace religion.
Lenin taught that the communist party would replace religion.
Hitler and Stalin agreed to divide Catholic Poland and were allied at first.

Ironically, Hitler's and Lenin's doctrine that the party would replace religion can be traced back to the same atheist, formerly of the Jewish faith. It is one of those historical oddities that makes you do a double take when you discover it. You know, what???.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#855 Sep 25, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: if you were to observe, you life story more closely. you would see, where all the choices were made for you. and as for humanity, you have no humanity. for without GoD, you are just another talking creature.
Actually, I am a thinking and talking creature, and when looking at my life, I can see no other as having taken responsibility for my decisions. It is funny though that you would credit your god-myth with my viewing him as less than pigshit.

Think this through .... Your god is less than shit, he is as insignificant as are the gods of Greek mythology. His misogynistic and evil henchmen are not a factor in my life, nor my world. Aren't I the lucky one, that he made the choice that I would be more moral and smarter than himself?
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#856 Sep 25, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I am a thinking and talking creature, and when looking at my life, I can see no other as having taken responsibility for my decisions. It is funny though that you would credit your god-myth with my viewing him as less than pigshit.
Think this through .... Your god is less than shit, he is as insignificant as are the gods of Greek mythology. His misogynistic and evil henchmen are not a factor in my life, nor my world. Aren't I the lucky one, that he made the choice that I would be more moral and smarter than himself?
You don't believe in God, but God believes in you.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#857 Sep 25, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
<quoted text>
rabbee: you can accuse me with your free will, mental illness all you like. but i dare you to find where i The-His Son adam is never mentioned in TheTorah - after the death of the He/She Benee Adam.
you have seen what your prejudice against G-D, wants for your vanity to see and no more. but do not mistake me, for i do not believe that any religion on earth today is, is any truer than atheism. they are all the same amount of, religious hooey as you are.
Have you got a navel?

Look down at your gut, you >> DO << have a navel, and it is proof you are not his son.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#858 Sep 25, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, I am a thinking and talking creature, and when looking at my life, I can see no other as having taken responsibility for my decisions. It is funny though that you would credit your god-myth with my viewing him as less than pigshit.
Think this through .... Your god is less than shit, he is as insignificant as are the gods of Greek mythology. His misogynistic and evil henchmen are not a factor in my life, nor my world. Aren't I the lucky one, that he made the choice that I would be more moral and smarter than himself?
rabbee: then you are less, than your own someone else's shit. yes you are a talking critter, as mentioned in HaTorah. be careful what you say, least you forever have regrets. still i am not here, to evaluate your lack of intelligence. for as an outsider, i seek only intelligent life on this planet. and i have yet found none, to prevent the eventual near obliteration of all.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#859 Sep 25, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Have you got a navel?
Look down at your gut, you >> DO << have a navel, and it is proof you are not his son.
rabbee: how do you prove i have not, a surrogate virgin like mother also? for all must enter into this physical world, through the womb of the woman to be filled with flesh.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#860 Sep 25, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't believe in God, but God believes in you.
Really, which one? The ones of my peoples, the ones from my continent? Or are you referring to the pedophile Arabic god of the Muslims(Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah)?

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