Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

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Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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#657 Sep 22, 2013
Just Think wrote:
<quoted text>Of course I could be wrong about any of the thousands of gods that have ever been worshipped. Zeus could show himself tomorrow for all we know.

But since there is not now, nor has there ever been, any proof that any of those gods ever existed, I'm not really that worried about it.

I'm an atheist, I don't believe that gods exist - just like I don't believe in the Tooth Fairy or unicorns or leprechauns. I fail to see why this is so complicated.
So your standard of truth is your reasoning.

Do you presuppose anything when you reason?

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#658 Sep 22, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Really which god wrote a dictionary? Do you know what "theist" is?

Well, atheist is not that. The "a" means it is not the word following the "a". The atheist is not a theist, you know we do not have any sort of theist indoctrination. Which one of the thousands of different types of theist are you? We are none of them.
So you believe what you read in a dusty old dictionary? ;-)

I hope you see the point.

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#659 Sep 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it does.

Here's how:

1) let's say YOUR god exists

2) you claim YOUR god is IN CHARGE

3) that means? EVERYTHING that happens is with your god's permission

4) which means? YOUR GOD PLANNED IT TO HAPPEN (omniscience)

Thus?

Your god is EVIL-- if it exists at all.
I am not sure how you would make such a moral judgement at 4 being an atheist with no basis for morality, but your jump from 3 to 4 is poor reasoning, as it only allows one scenario.

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#660 Sep 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>If there is evidence?

SHOW IT.

If you cannot do that, UNTIL someone believes FIRST?

IT IS NOT EVIDENCE.

It really is that simple.

The fault is all you.
So you know your reasoning is infallible then?
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#661 Sep 22, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>
"Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot: someone who, as a result of their prejudices, treats other people with fear, distrust, hatred, contempt, or intolerance on the basis of a person's ethnicity, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, disability, socioeconomic status, or other characteristics."
fits you perfectly you hateful bigot and liar
rabbee: you have already proved, your hatred in opposition to alleged religions of G-D as a hypocrite. and i have good reason, to hate not only all of theirs but yours also.

and truth is not bigotry, no mater how prejudiced it may seem to you. your all just a lot of mythological delusional, nobodies here in TheTorah from G-D again. no different than the last time, G-D gave this exact same story. or any of the other times, prior to that.

there is only one physical story, G-D ever gives. no matter how much you all lie, about your not being here in IT again. from Parashas Noach to Parashas Noach to Parashas Noach, it is still the exact same old story all over again. to this whole world of, rather be imbeciles.

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#662 Sep 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
<quoted text>I know no such thing.

If I did? I would not need FAITH, would I?

But since even YOU have to admit FAITH is required FIRST?

That?

That proves to 100%, that your god IS NOT real.

Because of the whole required-faith thing.
We all know of Gods existence, through His revelation of Himself to us.

Faith, being trust, is developed when we develop a relationship with Him.

So no, faith does not come first, our intrinsic knowledge of Him does.

But if that knowledge is suppressed then faith will never happen.

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#663 Sep 22, 2013
Mikko wrote:
<quoted text>Prove that god exists and that it's your god and not one of the norse gods!
You already know he exists why would I try to prove that to you?

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

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#664 Sep 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: yes you should be fined, for your thoughtlessness. you have only failed to prove your delusion, there is no G-D.
It is not up to me to DISPROVE your silly godling.

It **IS** up to YOU to PROVE it.

If you fail?(which you have--repeatedly)

Your god is automatically FALSE.

It is that simple.

That is just how it works.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#665 Sep 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: truth cannot be, hate speech. it is just that your vanity, can't handle the truth. and i proved to you earlier, i cannot be a cult. like your conglomerate, atheist cults are. you can't even define, any religion i belong to.
The above? Hate speech.

Classic hate speech it is too: the sort of hate speech that led these god-botherers to MURDER ANY AND ALL who were NOT a member of there exclusive club.

History is FULL of such god-robots: they would go on entire murder-sprees, killing entire nations in the name of their god.

The bible tells many such tales of this god-sponsored MURDER.

If fact? The entire first third of the bible is full of the Israelites on a MURDER SPREE rampaging, pillaging, raping and murdering across ancient Palestine, all because they believed their god TOLD them to.

That is why the bible is a book of pure evil: the god it talks of, commanded people to MURDER.

Just because they could...

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#666 Sep 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
... you can't even define, any religion i belong to.
False. I could easily name it-- but you'd quickly accuse me of yet another false thing.

Several things give you away:

1) your name is the first clue

2) the way you spell god is the second clue

3) the fact that you haven't mentioned Jewsus(jesus) yet, is another

4) the fact that you confine your speech to Old Testament ideas is one more clue

Those narrow it down somewhat, but you could still belong to some Genuine Christhole™ cult or other-- many of those confine their words to the hideous old testament atrocities.

But I suspect you are just a GODBOT TROLL, pretending to be a kind of semi-Jewish fanatical.(Do you hear yourself in your head with a New Jersey accent, when you write as this SOCK).

The kicker is your ISP-- and occasionally, when you slip up a it, in your fake New Jersey "persona" ....

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#667 Sep 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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I am not sure how you would make such a moral judgement at 4 being an atheist with no basis for morality, but your jump from 3 to 4 is poor reasoning, as it only allows one scenario.
You, just whining "IS NOT" is not a valid counter-argument.

You say "poor reasoning" without bothering to argue why.

The jump from 3 to 4 is true, because of omniscience-- your god knowing the future.

And it is the **only** possible result, if your god is all powerful.

If your god is NOT all powerful? Then he's not god-- by definition.

But here it is again, since you failed to refute the logical chain:

1) let's say YOUR god exists

2) you claim YOUR god is IN CHARGE

3) that means? EVERYTHING that happens is with your god's permission

4) which means? YOUR GOD PLANNED IT TO HAPPEN (omniscience)

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#668 Sep 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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We all know of Gods existence, through His revelation of Himself to us.
Lie.

Never happened to me. And since you are not "special"?

It never happened to YOU, either: I tried for over 40 years to reach out to god.

God was a no-show.

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#669 Sep 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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Faith, being trust, is developed when we develop a relationship with Him.
Lie.

Faith MUST COME FIRST.

Because there is NOTHING that says "god" UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN GOD.

Proof?

Babies.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

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#670 Sep 22, 2013
mtimber wrote:
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You already know he exists why would I try to prove that to you?
Nope.

I do not know any such thing.

That is why I LOST ALL MY FAITH-- god is ALWAYS a no-show.

Always.

Even for you, too.

Proof?

Well... you **are** kind of an azzhole... so...

... no self-respecting god would suffer the likes of YOU to be his spokes person...

“I'm out hunting”

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#671 Sep 22, 2013
-Skeptic- wrote:
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atheism has nothing to do with murder.
Show us all with your mighty intelligence where it says murder everyone in "Atheism is a simply disbelief in god".
According to FBI agent John Douglas, serial killers tend to gravitate towards religion.
Here is the excerpt
“I’m a Christian, you know,” he went on.“Always have been. After I killed the Oteros, I began to pray to God for help so I could fight this thing inside me. My greatest fear, even more than being caught, was whether God would allow me into heaven or would I be condemned forever. All my life I thought about that—even before I killed anyone. I wonder if God might not accept me because of my deeds, no matter how many times I ask for forgiveness.”
All this blather about God, the Hereafter and forgiveness made me want to laugh, but I didn’t dare. Religion was part of the façade he had used to fool those around him. Most people were shocked when the news broke that Rader was president of his church congregation, but I wasn’t.
When I learned about his longtime ties with Park City’s Christ Lutheran Church, I wanted to shout:“Of course he was!”
Our landmark ten-year study on serial killers revealed as much. We learned that if these guys could choose a profession, it would be minister, police officer or counselor.
Why? Because of the perks, of course. The single most obvious being that all these professions involve some type of power and control over others. It’s not surprising that in prison many convicted violent offenders gravitate toward religion—not just to be a member of a group, but rather, to lead the group. Charles “Tex” Watson of the Charles Manson family and David Berkowitz, a.k.a. Son of Sam, are now both jailhouse preachers."
http://www.cardozaplayer.com/article_details....

Their whole theory has just been thrown out of the universe with one link.

“I'm out hunting”

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#672 Sep 22, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Emp, your post just shows your half-wit brain in action. Do you really think you're going to post a soundbite response like that piece of trash you did without proof, my boy, proof backing up what you say? If you've ever been in my league spiritually you got show some proof of it because otherwise you're just blowing smoke out your behind. Prove you've been to my "fabled state and back". Words are cheap and people can say anything so let's see your proof of having entered the mystical states I have. If you have done so, you would bring back positive proof, new revelations and visions, but all you have is negativity, nothing else but "no" and that's never going to fly as a rational defense of atheism. Only fellow atheist true believers with the atheist fundamentalist mindset would ever buy that soundbite silliness, your phony "been there, done that" lie which is only another one of your turd putdowns you use in place of logical thinking.
Without proof, emperorsjohns, you got nothing but printed noise to fill up space here. Show the proof or shut up.
Without proof? You are the one making all the assertions, retard.
I am assuming the default position. You must submit proof of his existence and of the existence of a spiritual conscientious. You have not provided any evidence. I have no such obligations.

“I'm out hunting”

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#673 Sep 22, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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You are wrong. People have been murdered in the United States for offending protestants and I'm not talking about the Salem witch trials as the only such event.
In fact, whole tribes have been exterminated by the English protestants because the converted to Catholicism before the protestants came. The United States government itself has done the same thing for the same reason.
The Catholic church killed many more protestants with their Holy Inquisition and massacres.

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#674 Sep 22, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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Once again you are blaming God for the crimes of men. Give it a rest. It has already been discredited.
You are starting to look like a one trick pony.
Are you dumb or what. The point that he was making is that if a person or deity does nothing to prevent a rape or murder, then they are accessories to that crime.
You Catholics claim that God is all knowing, loving, and powerful. Yet he does not even warn potential victims that there is an attacker on the loose.

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#675 Sep 22, 2013
yehoshooah adam wrote:
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rabbee: i have all the proof from G-D, i didn't actually need. and your just angry, because you already lost the argument.
and atheism is not a simple believe, and is in fact a more complex system of beliefs than the others.
and just who is, the slanderer here? this is not a case of two lying slanderers, slandering each other as typical for this world.
so the shame, is on you! and your mental magic.
Atheism is no different than a group of people who like to wear black clothing. A person who loves black clothing can come from any background and hold a number of beliefs, they are only united because of their love of black clothing. So the same for atheists. We have no philosophy that unites us, only the lack of belief of a deity.

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#676 Sep 22, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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Nope. Those are all examples of cult-of-personality. Except for the French Revolution, which was simply a cult-of-the-stupid.
Moreover? Religion played a role in all of these... a strong role, or none of these could have happened at all.
You man the fact that the church stole from the poor? Oh how our xtians love to ignore that part.

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