Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

Aug 28, 2013 Full story: Gateway Pundit 1,726

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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“There is no god!”

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#413 Sep 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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C.P. does appear to have a reading comprehension problem.
It's spewing catholic church hate propaganda against atheism
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#414 Sep 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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No.. but this one is:
" http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm" ;
Photographs **proving** that the His Nibbs, the Pope-ums, thought highly of Hitler's Nazi party.
Why not? Hitler believed he was doing the "Holy Work of the Christian God".... by murdering the Jews.
First, many of the photographs were prior to 1937. President Paul Von Hindenburg was in charge of Germany and still had the power to fire Hitler as Chancellor until his death when Hitler seized power.

Second, the Reich Bishop was a Lutheran not a Catholic.

Third, due to the prohibition against Catholic membership in the Nazi Party, a prohibition imposed upon the German Bishops' Conference from the Vatican, Hitler received only 10 percent of the Catholic vote. This is documented.

Fourth, Third, due to the prohibition against Catholic membership in the Nazi Party, a prohibition imposed upon the German Bishops' Conference from the Vatican, Hitler received only 90 percent of the Protestant vote. This is documented and is regarded as one of the Vatican's worst diplomatic blunders of the 20th century if not ever. Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli belived too strongly in Ecumenism and didn't realize the Vatican prohibition would be regarded as interference by Germany's protestants and would result in many more protestants voting for Hitler than would have without the prohibition.

Fifth, even the Concordant isn't to be interpreted as an endorsement of anti-Semitism and the Nazi party because Hitler was Chancellor for only a few months when it was signed and President Paul Von Hindenburg was still the German President. From the Vatican's perspective, the Concordant, which guaranteed the right of the Church and guaranteed the rights of the Jews, and and guaranteed the rights of all Germans was a treaty not an endorsement of President Paul Von Hindenburg and his political party nor was it an endorsement of Hitler and his political party. Nor was it an endorsement of any of the political parties that formed the coalition government in the Reichstag.

I could keep going, but you think the pictures prove the church endorsed Hitler which it most certainly did not.

There were liberal German Bishops who supported Hitler though.

The conservative German Bishops and priests were sent to Dachau for their opposition to Hitler and the Nazi party.
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#415 Sep 14, 2013
Mikko wrote:
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It's spewing catholic church hate propaganda against atheism
Actually, I am defending the church from false accusations made by atheists.
CatholicPatriot

Hudson, FL

#416 Sep 14, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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False. There are countless photographic proof documenting that he not only BLESSED the Nazi party, but did so ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS.
The FACTS are?
The Cat'Lick church was OKAY WITH THE HOLOCAUST-- it had been preaching the ugly idea that Jews were "Christ Killers" for centuries.
It wasn't until Germany **fell**, that the Cat'Licks heirarchy begin back-peddling so fast it nearly made a hole in space.
It **certainly** made a hole in **history**.
70 percent of the United States Armed forces that defeated Hitler was Catholic at a time when Catholics were only about 22 percent of the population.
yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#417 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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50 million? Screwing up? God commanded their execution?
rabbee: the whole world was screwing up, costing over 50 million lives. no one bites the dust on this planet, without it being commanded by G-D. no pestilence, plague or famine, can happen on this planet without it being commanded by G-D.

When i was given with, the judgment of this whole world that day. i received no indication from G-D, that any of the popes are not guilty either. G-D did not excuse anyone, from the judgment.

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#418 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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Actually, I am defending the church from false accusations made by atheists.
You just need to prove your god instead of lie about it, thats all you need to do stop being an idiot in the eyes of the world.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#419 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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Pope Pius XI upon Cardinal Pacelli's recommendation, forced the German Bishops' Conference to prohibit Catholics from being members of the Nazi party.
Proof? No?

Then you are lying-- unless this happened **after** WW2, then possibly you are simply lying by omission.

Proof of Nazi-Cat'Lick tie-in is here:

" http://www.nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm" ;

Photographic **proof** that His Pope-Ums was blessing Hitler.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#420 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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First, many of the photographs were prior to 1937.
So?

The Cat'Lick church was **silent** during WW2 about the atrocities the Germans were committing against the jews.

Likely because of their policy of "christ killers"-- a standard Cat'Lick dogma for centuries.

A dogma that was only removed from a post-holocaust world, due to a recognition such dogma would take down the Cat'Lick power base.

The monsters in charge of the vatican are not **stupid**.

Just brutally dishonest.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#421 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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70 percent of the United States Armed forces that defeated Hitler was Catholic at a time when Catholics were only about 22 percent of the population.
Your source for this bullshit? Nothing?

Interesting. I was not aware the Armed Forces published religious affiliation of it's membership-- rather a violation of privacy.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#422 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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70 percent of the United States Armed forces that defeated Hitler was Catholic at a time when Catholics were only about 22 percent of the population.
More to the point?

So what?

The USA was not Europe, neither was it Germany.

In fact, the Cat'Lick church in the USA has often distanced itself from the more extreme factions operating with the vatican's blessing.

Even today, there is a rapidly growing faction of US Cat'Licks who are breaking away from the bronze-age rule of Rome.

They want to ordain women, eliminate homophobia, and generally join the rest of the planet in the 21st century (from the 14th).

That many US Cat'Licks were **unaware** of the pope's close ties to German Nazism is hardly surprising.

You appear to be quite **ignorant** on the subject.

Since: Nov 12

Arcata, CA

#423 Sep 14, 2013
Another soundbite inanity by Mikko who along with the rest of the atheist halfwits stuck in their left-brain hemisphere's domination, all of them yelling everyday their opinions about a subject not a one of them knows anything about, having zero experience in spiritual consciousness. There's another word for such people who go around parading their ignorance in public but Jesus warned us Christians not to say the term out loud so I will think it. Hint: it rhymes with tools..

“There is no god!”

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#424 Sep 14, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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Actually, I am defending the church from false accusations made by atheists.
Spreading lies

“There is no god!”

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#425 Sep 14, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Another soundbite inanity by Mikko who along with the rest of the atheist halfwits stuck in their left-brain hemisphere's domination, all of them yelling everyday their opinions about a subject not a one of them knows anything about, having zero experience in spiritual consciousness. There's another word for such people who go around parading their ignorance in public but Jesus warned us Christians not to say the term out loud so I will think it. Hint: it rhymes with tools..
a small wall of bullshit and ad hominem

“And I won't watch this anymore”

Since: Jun 10

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#426 Sep 15, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Another soundbite inanity by Mikko who along with the rest of the atheist halfwits stuck in their left-brain hemisphere's domination, all of them yelling everyday their opinions about a subject not a one of them knows anything about, having zero experience in spiritual consciousness. There's another word for such people who go around parading their ignorance in public but Jesus warned us Christians not to say the term out loud so I will think it. Hint: it rhymes with tools..
Yup, granted, that's how some of us are. But not all of us are like that-you just have to give us a chance and listen to our POV just as we need to listen to yours. Sadly, a lot of people are not capable of listening to what other people besides themselves have to say or think. IT is always about themselves.

IRL, I am not the kind of person who discusses my beliefs because I do not feel it is appropriate for everyone else to hear them 24-7-sure maybe with family I am close to, but not to complete strangers or when I go to church gatherings, picnics-to say then and there that I feel the god they worship is cruel and disgusting would be distasteful, so I keep my mouth shut.

Here, I can let loose my opinions and discuss them with others. I just wonder why so many people (religious and non-religious included) feel the need to look down on others. If there's one thing I hate, it's arrogance.

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#427 Sep 15, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Another soundbite inanity by Mikko who along with the rest of the atheist halfwits stuck in their left-brain hemisphere's domination, all of them yelling everyday their opinions about a subject not a one of them knows anything about, having zero experience in spiritual consciousness. There's another word for such people who go around parading their ignorance in public but Jesus warned us Christians not to say the term out loud so I will think it. Hint: it rhymes with tools..
You're just another f*cking liar for your creationist cult with no proof of god or any of the horsesh*t you call the meaning of life.

“Quantum Junctn: Use Both Lanes”

Since: Dec 06

Tulsa, Oklahoma USofA

#428 Sep 15, 2013
biomystic wrote:
... but Jesus warned us Christians not to say the term out loud so I will think it. Hint: it rhymes with tools..
So. You manage to call him a fool without actually calling him a fool?

Hmmm?

You think your Jewsus(jesus) is SO STUPID that he is fooled by your "clever word play" above?

Wow.

You really think your god is a low-grad moron!

LOL!
EdSed

Hamilton, UK

#429 Sep 16, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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Actually, I am defending the church from false accusations made by atheists.
Why would anyone bother with false accusations? The perfectly true ones are damning enough. Apart from the child-abuse, AIDs and condom advice scandals, there are the ones regarding the ROI. There is also the sectarianism associated with it in the UK. As someone raised 'in the RC church' I can confidently assert that the whole business stinks.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#430 Sep 17, 2013
Bob of Quantum-Faith wrote:
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So. You manage to call him a fool without actually calling him a fool?
Hmmm?
You think your Jewsus(jesus) is SO STUPID that he is fooled by your "clever word play" above?
Wow.
You really think your god is a low-grad moron!
LOL!
Seems to be a common thing with theists. Yahoo adam thinks he can fool god by spelling it g-d so he believes in a god smart enough to create the universe, but not bright enough to win on Wheel of Fortune.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#431 Sep 17, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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70 percent of the United States Armed forces that defeated Hitler was Catholic at a time when Catholics were only about 22 percent of the population.
Seems mathematically impossible. 66% of the US armed forces during WWII were conscripted. It seems reasonable to assume that the draft would produce a military force reflective of the overall demographics of the general population. It seems quite unreasonable to postulate that a lottery system would select a highly disproportionate number of men from a given minority. I call bullsh*t. Cite a source, or admit that you just made up a phony stat.
Amused

Lowell, MA

#432 Sep 17, 2013
CatholicPatriot wrote:
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First, many of the photographs were prior to 1937. President Paul Von Hindenburg was in charge of Germany and still had the power to fire Hitler as Chancellor until his death when Hitler seized power.
Second, the Reich Bishop was a Lutheran not a Catholic.
Third, due to the prohibition against Catholic membership in the Nazi Party, a prohibition imposed upon the German Bishops' Conference from the Vatican, Hitler received only 10 percent of the Catholic vote. This is documented.
Fourth, Third, due to the prohibition against Catholic membership in the Nazi Party, a prohibition imposed upon the German Bishops' Conference from the Vatican, Hitler received only 90 percent of the Protestant vote. This is documented and is regarded as one of the Vatican's worst diplomatic blunders of the 20th century if not ever. Pope Pius XI and Cardinal Pacelli belived too strongly in Ecumenism and didn't realize the Vatican prohibition would be regarded as interference by Germany's protestants and would result in many more protestants voting for Hitler than would have without the prohibition.
Fifth, even the Concordant isn't to be interpreted as an endorsement of anti-Semitism and the Nazi party because Hitler was Chancellor for only a few months when it was signed and President Paul Von Hindenburg was still the German President. From the Vatican's perspective, the Concordant, which guaranteed the right of the Church and guaranteed the rights of the Jews, and and guaranteed the rights of all Germans was a treaty not an endorsement of President Paul Von Hindenburg and his political party nor was it an endorsement of Hitler and his political party. Nor was it an endorsement of any of the political parties that formed the coalition government in the Reichstag.
I could keep going, but you think the pictures prove the church endorsed Hitler which it most certainly did not.
There were liberal German Bishops who supported Hitler though.
The conservative German Bishops and priests were sent to Dachau for their opposition to Hitler and the Nazi party.
And Bishop Alois Hudal? Remember him? Principal architect of the 'ratline' that assisted Nazis to escape justice after WWII. He facilitated the escapes of Josef Mengele, Franz Stangl, commandant of Treblinka, Eduard Roschmann, the commandant of the Riga Ghetto, Gustav Wagner, commandant of Sobibor, Alois Brunner, who headed the deportation of Jews from France and Slovakia to the concentration camps and Adolph Eichman, one of the principal architects of the final solution. Do yo really think that Bishop Hudal could organize all those escapes without any of his superiors knowing what he was up to?

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