Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Relig...

Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",...

There are 1726 comments on the Gateway Pundit story from Aug 28, 2013, titled Insane! DOJ Declares Atheism A "Religious Movement",.... In it, Gateway Pundit reports that:

Is the DOJ collectively inhaling something toxic? The U.S. Justice Department has just identified atheism as a "religious movement" .

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Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#213 Sep 5, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Amused: "The response of the brain to some stimuli may be documented. The existence of "spiritual energy" as the cause of the response is not. The same brain response has been produced with electrical energy. Google "god helmet". No magic appears to be involved at all."
I'm glad to see you are finally taking me seriously enough to actually do some looking at the available science findings. The key to spiritual energy effecting human beings has ALWAYS been Altered States of consciousness. This god helmet is another means to the same end. Altering one's "normal" consciousness seems requisite for religious experience and this is why shamans use psycho-active drugs and why it was reported of Jesus fasting 40 days in the wilderness which would alter anyone's consciousness. My consciousness was altered by some unidentified virus I suspect because my temperature rose during the peak experiences and I was sweating a great deal every time a wave of this energy which was always accompanied by a Brand New to me spiritual revelation, one of which directed me to getting a Bible and reading it for the first time I can remember. Muhammad too reported great sweating when he received his spiritual visions. I did see a doctor who could find no cause for the slight fever.
Many people have reported religious experiences. Some like me receive so much new spiritual information they are driven to share it with others. These people create new religions. I have too. It's called Celestial Torah Christianity and there's not a single Christian sect out of perhaps a thousand varieties that contains the new spiritual information I've received to pass on to this and future generations. It changes Christianity completely by removing the whole Abrahamic false foundation and replacing it with the true historic one of holistic Near Easter participation in evolving the Anointed One/Baptism Humanitarian Ruler model that is the function of the Christ Messiah.
Here is my website where this original religious conversion experience can be read. Http://biomystic.org/original.htm . Celestial Torah Christianity can be read at: Http;//biomystic.org/celestial torah.htm
Gibberish.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#214 Sep 5, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>is it common for athiest to not know how to act civil?
your belief system is based on pure faith in what you understand and think to be true. you can't prove God so you don't accept that he exists.
Facts aren't faith. Buybull thumpers believe in faith. They have no "proof" of 'god'. I don't need to prove 'god' exists, you do.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#215 Sep 5, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>oh? i'm supposed to not read the Bible because you are going to tell me what it really says. i get it. a little distortion never hurt anyone until the distorter is called on it.
You can read the buybull all you want. No one gives a shit.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#216 Sep 5, 2013
biomystic wrote:
You are looking for contradictions, Amused when you should just read what I wrote better: "unidentified virus I suspect". I do suspect an unidentified virus because there were at least two others in our homestead community area who came down with mysterious illnesses around that time and their illnesses too were not given any specific diagnosis.
And you are still not really thinking about the fact that my religious visions came BEFORE I had ever read the Bible. Certainly not familiar except through common American culture with Christian ideology. And you can see what I was given was a whole New Set of Christian visions and revelations. You can't find any Christian doctrine before the Gospel of Humanity that contains the ideas in it. Same for the Sword of Peace Vision and the Christ Josephine one, both of which are spiritual visions that became Shared by others feeling the spiritual power of them. Over 500 Nazarean Christians for example in 2003. I know my spiritual work is of God because my visions would have just sat in my head or written down and never affected anyone else except God gave the visions spiritual power to do so. Atheism can only exist in the minds of people who've never had real religious experiences so the atheist ideology to me has nothing to do with logic or reality but everything to do with lack of experience of people who are unaware of it yet whose egos are so wrapped up in defending their unawareness they forget that fact that you just cannot know what you're talking about with experiential knowledge. Can't be done.
You have visions? Try to envision your next massive shot of Thorazine as the men in white coats take you away.
barry

Henagar, AL

#217 Sep 5, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think your god is a penis worshipper? Do you know that there is not a single buybull scripture where the appearance of a woman's genetalia was even mentioned. A woman's genetalia is considered filth that must be hidden away forever . Yet, a man's penis and scrotum had to be perfect looking or else he couldn't approach your god's altar. I think your god is a penis worshipper. I wonder who did the "penis prettiness" checks for him?
more distortion from rp
barry

Henagar, AL

#218 Sep 5, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>I makes no accusations, nor claims, the book does that on it's own, but I do frequently post scripture from the buybull. The buybull has no idea what I think, nor does it make comment on my thoughts, it's a BOOK.
This is what I posted(and mispelled) >>> "Jehovah owns it, in Leviticus, he flat out says that when he is angered he will punish you seven times what you deserve, and you will eat your children."
Breaking it down for you, in a sentence where you see not a single detail, there are actually seven. Still, I had hoped that one of you lot might actually look this up, but it's too much trouble, I suppose.
detail # 1. Jehovah owns it
detail # 2. in Leviticus
detail # 3. he flat out says
detail # 4. when he is angered
detail # 5. he will punish you
detail # 6. seven times what you deserve
detail # 7. and you will eat your children
I don't guess you have the necessary skills to google any of these "details" to find the book and scripture numbers on your on? Try Leviticus 26:29
"29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
even you seem to agree that this is a prophecy of what people will do when they reject the plan of God for their life. when they disobey his commands. i don't see where it says that he will make them eat their children. when the city was besieged and the food ran out some people chose to eat their children. God didn't make them do it.

"Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins."
no where does it say seven times what you deserve. that is your take, your words added on to what was prophesied.
barry

Henagar, AL

#219 Sep 5, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>System? Where?
Do you claim a god? If so, you prove it. You can't prove god so you think he doesn't exist, right? If I were claiming one, I could prove it. Why can't you?
can i prove God? not to your standard of understanding. but then why do i have to prove him to you? you are free to believe what you want. just don't force it on me.
faith in God is something that you can not and right now will not comprehend so you don't believe. everyone understands that. you on the other hand do not understand faith. nor can you prove that there can not possibly be a God.
barry

Henagar, AL

#220 Sep 5, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text> You need to work on your comprehension skills. It was a simple paragraph, and my words said all I wanted them to say.
Remember this >>> "Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, please don't ever read the bible. You can stick with little snippets that your spell casters tell you to read, but actually knowing the buybull makes Christains revert to being atheist"
HEY DISTORTER PAY ATTENTION >>>> knowing the buybull makes Christains revert to being atheist
it seems to me you are the one relying on snippets and distortions. knowing God brings one real peace in life.
barry

Henagar, AL

#221 Sep 5, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>Facts aren't faith. Buybull thumpers believe in faith. They have no "proof" of 'god'. I don't need to prove 'god' exists, you do.
i never said that you needed to "prove God exists" i said that you don't think you can so your faith is in your thinking that God can't be proved therefore you insist that he must not exist.
your faith is in your understanding of the facts. but then you don't know everything so be careful your understanding of the facts will change.
barry

Henagar, AL

#222 Sep 5, 2013
Mykro wrote:
<quoted text>You can read the buybull all you want. No one gives a shit.
thank you i needed that i suppose.

“My name is Trunks...”

Since: Jun 10

the alternate future

#223 Sep 5, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>can i prove God? not to your standard of understanding. but then why do i have to prove him to you? you are free to believe what you want. just don't force it on me.
faith in God is something that you can not and right now will not comprehend so you don't believe. everyone understands that. you on the other hand do not understand faith. nor can you prove that there can not possibly be a God.
Exactly. Some people don't understand that they should not push their beliefs on others....it's too bad you have to see some of the bad apples, so to say, setting a bad example for the rest of us. I'm not like that-unless someone gets me ticked off.

Sorry that happened to ya.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#224 Sep 6, 2013
[QUOTE who="huntcoyotes"If the existence of God cannot be proven to them with THEIR five senses (yours aren't good enough)[/QUOTE]

So the religious have more "senses" then nonreligious people?? What if someone was religious but deconverted, do they lose those "senses"?? Its it like losing your car keys??

[QUOTE who="huntcoyotes"or evidence presented that would be acceptable in a court of law, it isn't good enough.[/QUOTE]

Well at this point any evidence would be nice. But its funny you should say this. When people from other religions come to you with their claims, you dismiss them right out of hands your selves lol. And yes, for you it would take MORE then a court of law to get you away for your particular god.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#225 Sep 6, 2013
biomystic wrote:
The proof that atheism is a religious movement, actually a fundamentalist one at that because atheists are fundamentalist type believers whose belief systems automatically reject ANY evidence that contradicts the belief system. One can post facts over and over again to atheists but it matters not a whit because they don't care a fig about facts that show their ideas being silly and ill-researched. And so rejecting any science findings like the brain spiritual capacity for example, atheists just HAVE to post their meaningless ideology--because for them its all about EGO. Can't have their egos shown up by theists so we get everyday on this thread as on every day on other Christian forums, these atheists fanatics here everyday. They have to do it because fundies just get obsessed with their war against reason that they think is a war against religionists.
I suggest to my God-conscious fellow posters that they stop engaging atheists here in debate because as Mykro's excellent example of a fundamentalist atheist's posts show, they don't reason so there's no point in debating anything with them. It becomes a waste of time.
Atheism dies when it can't attack Christianity. They got a hardon for Christianity which is why there's no atheism category but they are placed where they always show up--in the Christian threads.
Try it, theists. Don't post and watch this thread die because negative reactionary ideologies, which atheism is, can't generate interest in the public.
Haven't seen this much projection and woo in a while.

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#226 Sep 6, 2013
barry wrote:
you are right. that is exactly the point. the vast majority of religious "authorities" set themselves up as the ultimate authority when it comes to deciding what they will believe or follow. they also tend to distort and take things out of context knowing that people generally are lazy and won't really search it out for them selves.
Yup.
barry wrote:
however my point is that the accusations made were really dishonest and relied on ignorance and laziness.
How does one back track right off a cliff??

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#227 Sep 6, 2013
biomystic wrote:
Ed said: "Anyone who disbelieves in a god can be considered an atheist. It really is as simple as that..."
Ed, look at that word you used "disbelieves".
Does your *lack of belief" in,* in put random god %GBTYH"{#F* keep you up at night??

“Putten the SIN ”

Since: Nov 08

back in Wisconsin

#228 Sep 6, 2013
barry wrote:
each athiest sets himself up as the ultimate authority over what he believes.
If there isnt a god then sure you could say that. people are really good at not knowing what then are talking about. If there isnt a god then creationists are actually authority of not knowing what the hell their talking about lol. But then again the same rhetoric applies to your god.
barry wrote:
his faith is in himself.
Thats a rather broad(not female) equivocation you have going there. Religious faith is playing make believe. Then theres belief without evidence. Did you know that the definition of faith and magic are pretty much the same??
barry wrote:
so while it may not be an organized religion it is non the less a belief system of faith.
A non belief faith based system??

Take a seat barry. http://youtu.be/EcaYfIxMfyk

“gun control takes two hands”

Since: Mar 13

outdoors

#229 Sep 6, 2013
gotnatas wrote:
<quoted text>
So the religious have more "senses" then nonreligious people?? What if someone was religious but deconverted, do they lose those "senses"?? Its it like losing your car keys??
<quoted text>
Well at this point any evidence would be nice. But its funny you should say this. When people from other religions come to you with their claims, you dismiss them right out of hands your selves lol. And yes, for you it would take MORE then a court of law to get you away for your particular god.
Don't put too much effort into misinterpreting what I said, sport. As I said, atheists trust no ones senses but their own, does that help? Also, you are assuming that "people from other religons" come to me with their claims, and you therefore expect all Christians to behave in the same way- tsk tsk tsk- what is that word for generalizing? For expecting persons to act the same, based on preconceived notions? C'mon, you're better than that. Until you've been a Christian in a muslim country, you have NO idea what you're talking about.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#230 Sep 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>more distortion from rp
Really, so show me where there is any biblical illusion to the comeliness of a woman's secret parts and I will show you where the scripture says that a man must possess no mars, no warts, only those with unblemished(no freckles, ingrown hairs, pock marks, etc,) toolage can approach the altar of your Arabic god.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#231 Sep 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>"29 And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat."
even you seem to agree that this is a prophecy of what people will do when they reject the plan of God for their life. when they disobey his commands. i don't see where it says that he will make them eat their children. when the city was besieged and the food ran out some people chose to eat their children. God didn't make them do it.
"Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins."
no where does it say seven times what you deserve. that is your take, your words added on to what was prophesied.
Again and again, in the buybull, your Arab god Jehovah passes the buck. He says he will put your enemies up to making your life so difficult, that you will be forced to eat your children*, to sustain your own life. He wants it to happen, but he will have somebody else do it. How lame!

But over in Leviticus he owns it, this time it is him, and you have angered him, so what he says is that >in his anger< you will be punished seven times, does that means you angered him seven times? No it means that he will punish you seven times what you deserve, and you will eat your children.

*Somehow, he just doesn't get this parenting thing now, does he?

The truth is, a real parent would cut off their own arm to feed their starving children. Only an greedy inhumane monstrous focker who is willing to use others to his own aims would even consider eating the children. You know, like your very own loving Jewish/Christain/Muslim/Pagan and Arabic god.

Read it and weep, weep for yourself, weep for mankind, weep for any child whose parents would bend to that god filth >>

Leviticus 26:27-29
New King James Version (NKJV)

27. And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me,

28. then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;

and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.

29. You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters.

Praze the Lard!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#232 Sep 6, 2013
barry wrote:
<quoted text>can i prove God? not to your standard of understanding. but then why do i have to prove him to you? you are free to believe what you want. just don't force it on me.
faith in God is something that you can not and right now will not comprehend so you don't believe. everyone understands that. you on the other hand do not understand faith. nor can you prove that there can not possibly be a God.
"You can't prove god so you think he doesn't exist, right?" <<< Those were your words, remember? So now you are telling me you can't prove it? Hilarious, totally hilarious.

That you would laud your belief in the Arabic buybull god, and actually not know what you are lauding is just sad. Your buybull god is a mess of contradictions, and has been fragmented into the basis for thousands of competing and conflicting dogmas. That pretty much says he is the one, the only, the true god of Israel, Iraq, Alaska, the bible belt and the thanks to the coming back from the dead, blood drinking and flesh eating crap, throw in the West Indies, Russia, Africa, Haiti and Jamaica too.

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