An Age-Old Debate: Is Atheism a Relig...

An Age-Old Debate: Is Atheism a Religion?

There are 47 comments on the Examiner.com story from Dec 1, 2013, titled An Age-Old Debate: Is Atheism a Religion?. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

The Sunday Assembly is coming to Portland on Tue. Dec. 10. It has been called "an atheist church."

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“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#42 Jan 28, 2014
Jim wrote:
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Now watch the religious liar try to change the subject and talk about "love" or near death experiences.
This is how they lie, again and again - they misdirect away from the main lie - god.
It’s the christian way and what is expected.

I find his shouting about love and respect while showing such hatred and contempt to be highly amusing, it’s as if his hypocrisy does not allow him to live in the real world.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#44 Jan 28, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
There is a difference between disbelief in the existence of deities and belief in nothingness. It's a distinction that is hard for some of the religious to see because to them, their god is so pervasive that without it, there is nothing to believe in. In that respect, our point of view is simply to alien to take in at all. Most of them mean well, though, and practice kindness in their daily lives, and on a personal level, that mitigates the essential divide even if it can never over come it.
It is, of course, important to remove legal restrictions that are motivated solely by religion, so we must continue to be as active as a minority of our size and stature can be in political action and litigation. And we should help others to learn to analyze ideas rationally and skeptically using logic and relying on verifiable information rather than unsupported assertions.
But there's no point in aggravating them with insults or denigration. Why deviate from the path of kindness, compassion, and empathy? What can we hope to gain from expressions of hostility? A peaceful world can come only from peaceful people.
I have had some very interesting conversations on topix with people of various beliefs. However some of them do not mean well and practice hatred of anyone not like them in their daily lives

I came on topix to discuss such differences as you identify and all I have had in return from the vast majority of christians (and some muslims) here on topix is verbal abuse, hatred, misogyny and unfounded accusations based on ignorance and lies.

Although I did come on here out of genuine interest I am not one to sit around and take such abuse. If someone bad mouths me than I respond in kind.

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#45 Jan 29, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I have had some very interesting conversations on topix with people of various beliefs. However some of them do not mean well and practice hatred of anyone not like them in their daily lives
I came on topix to discuss such differences as you identify and all I have had in return from the vast majority of christians (and some muslims) here on topix is verbal abuse, hatred, misogyny and unfounded accusations based on ignorance and lies.
Although I did come on here out of genuine interest I am not one to sit around and take such abuse. If someone bad mouths me than I respond in kind.
I'm logging in so that folks will know that it really is me, not someone spoofing my name. I used be be a regular here and drifted away, not out of anger or frustration, but out of boredom. No one had anything to say that I hadn't already read hundreds of times. But during my long stay before that, I found that "responding in kind" invariably let to even more pointless exchanges.

I still see nothing really new here, but I also see that my voice is missing and sorely needed--someone has to try the role of peacemaker even if it is to little or no avail. The useless bickering and childish squabbling smothers useful dialogue by submerging it beneath so many layers of banality, and the general tone of hostility makes it impossible for even those whose motives are genuine to stay out of the fray.

Wake up people! Nothing you write here can be taken seriously by anyone who has not already chosen the same side if some boundaries of courtesy are not observed. What use is it to be heard only by members of your own particular mutual admiration society? Might as well be talking to the flowers--or the hair dryer.

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#46 Jan 29, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>I'm logging in so that folks will know that it really is me, not someone spoofing my name. I used be be a regular here and drifted away, not out of anger or frustration, but out of boredom. No one had anything to say that I hadn't already read hundreds of times. But during my long stay before that, I found that "responding in kind" invariably let to even more pointless exchanges.
I still see nothing really new here, but I also see that my voice is missing and sorely needed--someone has to try the role of peacemaker even if it is to little or no avail. The useless bickering and childish squabbling smothers useful dialogue by submerging it beneath so many layers of banality, and the general tone of hostility makes it impossible for even those whose motives are genuine to stay out of the fray.
Wake up people! Nothing you write here can be taken seriously by anyone who has not already chosen the same side if some boundaries of courtesy are not observed. What use is it to be heard only by members of your own particular mutual admiration society? Might as well be talking to the flowers--or the hair dryer.
I remember you well, you usually had some interesting and relevant input and are missed but I believe in the topic of this post you are not seeing the whole picture. Because you are bored with topix does not mean that you used to be bored with topix, the fact that you remained an active member for so long indicates that. In that way other people are also not bored with topix. Personally I find it an interesting place to visit to alleviate the boredom while I wait for my computers to do their thing.

I am perfectly willing to hold whatever conversations I am able to partake in, and do, ranging from religion in various guises, science, family, race, sexuality and several other topics. And I know that occasionally what I have to say is taken seriously and has even changed attitudes. I have also been enlightened on several subjects due solely to conversations on topixs, ideas that have caused me to investigate and research. There are some very intelligent people on here from different backgrounds, countries and cultures each (well some at least) with relevant info to impart. I know that these people are not in the majority but they are there

Often times opinion is in contention and the discussion (because discussion by at least 2 willing parties is what it is) will sometimes become heated. This is the nature of debate. It is up to us as adults to work around that or agree to disagree.

However I will not idly sit here and be slapped in the face by anyone for having an opinion (often backed up by fact because that’s who I am). If someone chooses to verbally abuses me, then I “react in kind”, also because that’s who I am.

And my hair dryer has nothing to do with it

“It's just a box of rain...”

Since: May 07

Knoxville, TN

#47 Jan 30, 2014
ChristineM wrote:
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I remember you well, you usually had some interesting and relevant input and are missed but I believe in the topic of this post you are not seeing the whole picture. Because you are bored with topix does not mean that you used to be bored with topix, the fact that you remained an active member for so long indicates that. In that way other people are also not bored with topix. Personally I find it an interesting place to visit to alleviate the boredom while I wait for my computers to do their thing.
I am perfectly willing to hold whatever conversations I am able to partake in, and do, ranging from religion in various guises, science, family, race, sexuality and several other topics. And I know that occasionally what I have to say is taken seriously and has even changed attitudes. I have also been enlightened on several subjects due solely to conversations on topixs, ideas that have caused me to investigate and research. There are some very intelligent people on here from different backgrounds, countries and cultures each (well some at least) with relevant info to impart. I know that these people are not in the majority but they are there
Often times opinion is in contention and the discussion (because discussion by at least 2 willing parties is what it is) will sometimes become heated. This is the nature of debate. It is up to us as adults to work around that or agree to disagree.
However I will not idly sit here and be slapped in the face by anyone for having an opinion (often backed up by fact because that’s who I am). If someone chooses to verbally abuses me, then I “react in kind”, also because that’s who I am.
And my hair dryer has nothing to do with it
Yeah, that hair dryer is sort of a running joke--or used to be. And it does indeed take all kinds with the whole range of temperaments to keep a forum afloat. I don't have as much time as I used to--bands getting a little busier, personal life starting to kick back into gear, but I am looking forward to posts by the few who consistently write cogent, well organized, and insightful posts from a knowledge base that far exceeds my own. Be well, m'lady.(tips hat with respect)

“When you treat people as they ”

Since: Nov 10

treat you they get offended.

#48 Jan 30, 2014
NightSerf wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, that hair dryer is sort of a running joke--or used to be. And it does indeed take all kinds with the whole range of temperaments to keep a forum afloat. I don't have as much time as I used to--bands getting a little busier, personal life starting to kick back into gear, but I am looking forward to posts by the few who consistently write cogent, well organized, and insightful posts from a knowledge base that far exceeds my own. Be well, m'lady.(tips hat with respect)
And courtesy’s in reply, great luck with the band, I look forward to seeing you on MTV
Amused

Lowell, MA

#49 Jan 30, 2014
Thinking wrote:
When a fundamentalist refuses to believe that Evolution makes no claim as to how the universe began, politeness often goes out of the window.
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I certainly understand the frustration, but isn't that like yelling at the guy in the wheelchair for not standing up and walking? Most fundies are as they are because of the thoroughness of their indoctrination. If their critical thinking skills have been crippled by their indoctrination, we may encourage them to think for themselves, but should not expect that mere exhortation to thought will produce the desired result.

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