Will atheists win the fight?

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Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#1 Mar 15, 2013
Amused

Lowell, MA

#2 Mar 17, 2013
There is no 'fight'. There's only facts and fictions. Even when all of mankind believed the earth to be flat and the sun to orbit the earth, the earth was still round and in orbit around the sun. Human opinion plays no role. Likewise, the number of believers vs. the number of non-believers is irrelevant to the existence or non-existence of god or gods. Even universal belief could not bring a god into existence.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#3 Mar 17, 2013
Amused wrote:
There is no 'fight'. There's only facts and fictions. Even when all of mankind believed the earth to be flat and the sun to orbit the earth, the earth was still round and in orbit around the sun. Human opinion plays no role. Likewise, the number of believers vs. the number of non-believers is irrelevant to the existence or non-existence of god or gods. Even universal belief could not bring a god into existence.
All the disbelieving in the world will not make God not exist.

Where is the voice of atheists in the UN? It appears the islamics have center stage.

“I see quantum effects”

Since: Jan 11

In the macro world.

#4 Mar 17, 2013
Amused wrote:
There is no 'fight'. There's only facts and fictions. Even when all of mankind believed the earth to be flat and the sun to orbit the earth, the earth was still round and in orbit around the sun. Human opinion plays no role. Likewise, the number of believers vs. the number of non-believers is irrelevant to the existence or non-existence of god or gods. Even universal belief could not bring a god into existence.
I think the fight is more about getting believers of all stripes to learn to accept that people who don't believe are not inferior or evil or untrustworthy, among other things.

The other important thing to get through to them is that facts are facts, whether you believe them or not.

Religion will never go away, but fundamentalism and extremism must.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#5 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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All the disbelieving in the world will not make God not exist.
Where is the voice of atheists in the UN? It appears the islamics have center stage.
Which ones of the thousands upon thousands of gods is it now,that disbelief will not make it not exist? Is it the first one, the weakest one, the mentally ill one, the little blue one, the one who wants virgins dropped into the volcano, the one who will make you eat your children, or the one who loves you enough to torture you forever? Not a single bit of proof for any on the gods, and yet somewhere someone is willing to swear fealty to , die for and fight to show you that they do exist. And they all do exist, in somebody's fantasy world, just like yours does.

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Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#6 Mar 17, 2013
Damn spelling mistakes: correction to the above >>

Which one of the thousands upon thousands of gods is it now, that disbelief will not make it not exist?
Is it the first one, the weakest one, the mentally ill one, the little blue one, the one who wants virgins dropped into the volcano, the one who will make you eat your children, or the one who loves you enough to torture you forever?

Not a single bit of proof for any of the gods, and yet somewhere someone is willing to swear fealty to, to die for and to fight to show you that they all do exist.

And they all really do, in somebody's fantasy world, just like yours does.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#7 Mar 17, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Which ones of the thousands upon thousands of gods is it now,that disbelief will not make it not exist? Is it the first one, the weakest one, the mentally ill one, the little blue one, the one who wants virgins dropped into the volcano, the one who will make you eat your children, or the one who loves you enough to torture you forever? Not a single bit of proof for any on the gods, and yet somewhere someone is willing to swear fealty to , die for and fight to show you that they do exist. And they all do exist, in somebody's fantasy world, just like yours does.
Does your disbelief make God no longer exist?

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#8 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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All the disbelieving in the world will not make God not exist.
Where is the voice of atheists in the UN? It appears the islamics have center stage.
All the believing in the world will not make any god(s) exist.

I wasn't aware that the UN was based on religion? When did that happen? Heck, the last time I saw video of the UN, not a single person had a religion on their name card. They all had country names.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#9 Mar 17, 2013
Will atheists win the fight?

Probably not. History and science seem to agree that humans will always invent some kind of god or another. Gods come and gods go. Eventually all gods go. unfortunately, they are simply replaced by a new "god du jour"
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#10 Mar 17, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
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All the believing in the world will not make any god(s) exist.
I wasn't aware that the UN was based on religion? When did that happen? Heck, the last time I saw video of the UN, not a single person had a religion on their name card. They all had country names.
It shows how little informed you are, if atheists want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness they better get involved with the UN. islamics in the UN are working hard to take your freedoms away. Go ahead and get on your high horse about Christianity, and sit back and do nothing about what is going on in the UN.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#11 Mar 17, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
Will atheists win the fight?
Probably not. History and science seem to agree that humans will always invent some kind of god or another. Gods come and gods go. Eventually all gods go. unfortunately, they are simply replaced by a new "god du jour"
You have no idea what the fight is about. It's about your basic rights to freedom of thought, expression,speech and equality for women. The UN must be watched and action taken to preserve The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#12 Mar 17, 2013
islamics are fighting for international blaspheme laws. Whild you atheists moan about all relgions being equal they don't see the trees for the forest.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#13 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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It shows how little informed you are, if atheists want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness they better get involved with the UN. islamics in the UN are working hard to take your freedoms away. Go ahead and get on your high horse about Christianity, and sit back and do nothing about what is going on in the UN.
I see you have failed to address those mistakes of yours that I mentioned. When you are ready to hold a big boy conversation, let me know.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#14 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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You have no idea what the fight is about. It's about your basic rights to freedom of thought, expression,speech and equality for women. The UN must be watched and action taken to preserve The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
I see your Islamphobia is still is full force. Are you afraid that your christian god will allow Islam to gain the edge? LOL!! You appear to have little faith in your invisible skybuddy. Why is that?

Correct me if I am wrong.... Aren't you the guy who would outlaw all forms of birth control?(I may have you confused with someone else)
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#15 Mar 17, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
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I see your Islamphobia is still is full force. Are you afraid that your christian god will allow Islam to gain the edge? LOL!! You appear to have little faith in your invisible skybuddy. Why is that?
Correct me if I am wrong.... Aren't you the guy who would outlaw all forms of birth control?(I may have you confused with someone else)
As I see you are ill informated about what is going on at the UN. You think your silly arguments means anything to those who want to impose islamic law on everyone? As I said, with your myopic mind set atheists will lose the fight.

Iran wants to sue Hollywood over Argo. Ha, I hear no comments from the liberals in Hollywood who always scream islamphobia. Go ahead scream islamphobia as your rights are slowly taken away.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#16 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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As I see you are ill informated about what is going on at the UN. You think your silly arguments means anything to those who want to impose islamic law on everyone? As I said, with your myopic mind set atheists will lose the fight.
Iran wants to sue Hollywood over Argo. Ha, I hear no comments from the liberals in Hollywood who always scream islamphobia. Go ahead scream islamphobia as your rights are slowly taken away.
Why do you continue to fail to address your errors about the UN. Has the UN stopped recognizing countries, in favor of seeing everyone as an aspect of their religion?

Also, can you give me an example of any of my rights that have been lost to Islam?

Lastly, I will ask you again.....Aren't you the guy who would outlaw all forms of birth control?(I may have you confused with someone else)

I anxiously await your complete reply.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#17 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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As I see you are ill informated about what is going on at the UN. You think your silly arguments means anything to those who want to impose islamic law on everyone? As I said, with your myopic mind set atheists will lose the fight.
Iran wants to sue Hollywood over Argo. Ha, I hear no comments from the liberals in Hollywood who always scream islamphobia. Go ahead scream islamphobia as your rights are slowly taken away.
Oh, I forgot to address your silliness as far as Iran wanting to sue Hollywood...... LOL!!! Do you really take that as a serious threat? How's that working out for the Iranians? LOL!!! You don't hear anything from the "liberals in Hollywood" because it's a joke to them too!! That kind of thing only scares those who are islamaphobes.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#18 Mar 17, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
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Why do you continue to fail to address your errors about the UN. Has the UN stopped recognizing countries, in favor of seeing everyone as an aspect of their religion?
Also, can you give me an example of any of my rights that have been lost to Islam?
Lastly, I will ask you again.....Aren't you the guy who would outlaw all forms of birth control?(I may have you confused with someone else)
I anxiously await your complete reply.
It's good to see there are some atheist better informed than you are:

http://christiannews.net/2013/03/03/atheists-...

Oh! You say they are islamphobics.
Paul WV

Beckley, WV

#19 Mar 17, 2013
The serpent was right wrote:
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Oh, I forgot to address your silliness as far as Iran wanting to sue Hollywood...... LOL!!! Do you really take that as a serious threat? How's that working out for the Iranians? LOL!!! You don't hear anything from the "liberals in Hollywood" because it's a joke to them too!! That kind of thing only scares those who are islamaphobes.
The liberals are to afraid you might call them an islamphobic so they are keeping quite. Let's see if Hollywood makes any other honest movies about islam, or will they self censor.

Since: Dec 10

Orefield, PA

#20 Mar 17, 2013
Paul WV wrote:
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It's good to see there are some atheist better informed than you are:
http://christiannews.net/2013/03/03/atheists-...
Oh! You say they are islamphobics.
So in post #3 when YOU asked:"Where is the voice of atheists in the UN?", I guess you answered your own question!!

Of course you still have failed to answer my other questions. Why is that?
You see, I do believe it was you who said that all birth control should be outlawed. Your refusal to address that question reenforces that belief. Since you have also failed to give a single example of how my rights(even one) have been lost due to the big, bad, islamic threat, I must concluded that it is christians like you that are just as much(if not more) of a threat to my rights as any Muslim.

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