The paradoxes of Christopher Hitchens

The paradoxes of Christopher Hitchens

There are 38 comments on the Reuters story from Dec 16, 2011, titled The paradoxes of Christopher Hitchens. In it, Reuters reports that:

By now, Christopher Hitchens, who has died from esophageal cancer after weeks of radiation treatment at the Anderson Cancer Center in Houston, Texas, will know whether there is or is not a God.

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Spencer, MA

#22 Jan 28, 2013
Hedonist wrote:
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So, you're a Muslim? Or did you settle on some other god(s). How much time did you spend actually studying the different theological concepts available? Did you consider Jainism, Buddhism, and all the Eastern philosophies?
Or did you just settle for the one your parents told you is right without any real thought beyond that?
Becoming a muslim is actually the best hedge. The qu'ran says all who do not believe in allah go to hell, without exception. It also describes hell in some detail, so there's no room in islam for belief in allah without belief in hell.

The bible, on the other hand, is more cryptic about hell. There's a small number of christian theologians who doubt its existence. Still other christian theologians believe that good non believers can go to heaven, under certain circumstances. Still others believe in the third alternative of purgatory, where lesser sinners can atone for their sins, presumably including non-belief, and attain heaven.

So, assuming you've led a good life, a muslim finding himself face to face with the christian god would still have a shot at not going to hell. A christian confronted with allah at judgment, on the other hand, has no shot at all. If the goal of the wager is to maximize your shot at heaven and minimize the chance of going to hell, the best shot would be islam.

Of course, the wager assumes that one can actually delude oneself into believing something that you don't think is true, and/or that god is either not omniscient enough to detect insincere expressions of belief, or so vain that he values flattery over honesty.

“ecrasez l'infame”

Since: May 08

Atlanta, Georgia

#23 Jan 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
hitchens was a trashy journo, bore and marxist in addition to being a GOD hater
he was a hypocrite as well
"I always think it's a sign of victory when they move on to the ad hominem." ~ Christopher Hitchens

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#24 Jan 28, 2013
Siro wrote:
hitchens was a trashy journo, bore and marxist in addition to being a GOD hater
he was a hypocrite as well
Jealous!

“Is that all you've got?”

Since: Jun 10

Location hidden

#25 Mar 3, 2013
Lucan wrote:
<quoted text>You were masturbating while you typed that, weren't you?
Isn't that what everybody does here? xD
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#26 Mar 4, 2013
If you knew your Bible, you would know that everyone who dies and goes to hell or the grave and everyone in hell is coming out in the Resurrection of the dead.
John 5:28,29 Ecclesiastes 9:5

Of course this will happen after this earth as we know it now, and everyone that is unrighteous is gone forever. In God's new world there will be no ungodly people and no sickness or suffering of any kind from wars, drugs, crime or any other problem you can think of. The Bible says even tears will be no more or death.
1JOhn 2:15-17 Revelation 21:3,4

The lake of fire is the second death, no resurrection with this death.
Revelation 20:14,15
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#27 Mar 4, 2013
The world of mankind living today is judged as unrighteous, and if anyone dies before Armageddon or the end of this world, they will go to hell or their grave, no matter where they are laid to rest.
Acts 24:125 1Corinthians 15:42

When the end does come, everyone that is destroyed at Armageddon will have made their decision to stick with this world, and not to love God and do his will.
Revelation 4:11

The teaching that the good go to heaven and the bad go to hell or the lake of fire, is from this world, not God's word the Bible. No one has an immortal soul except Jehovah God, our reigning King and those who also were born again and died, these holy ones will rule with Jesus in heaven as Kings, they number 144,000

The dead will be raised back to life to a clean earth and righteous new world of mankind, they will be taught the one truth of Scripture, the earth will be restored to a paradise condition and there will be no one unrighteous there, the animals will be tame and no abuse of anykind.
Revelation 21:3,4 Psalm 37

“Jeezuz in the Potty”

Since: May 10

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#28 Mar 4, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The world of mankind living today is judged as unrighteous, and if anyone dies before Armageddon or the end of this world, they will go to hell or their grave, no matter where they are laid to rest.
Acts 24:125 1Corinthians 15:42
When the end does come, everyone that is destroyed at Armageddon will have made their decision to stick with this world, and not to love God and do his will.
Revelation 4:11
The teaching that the good go to heaven and the bad go to hell or the lake of fire, is from this world, not God's word the Bible. No one has an immortal soul except Jehovah God, our reigning King and those who also were born again and died, these holy ones will rule with Jesus in heaven as Kings, they number 144,000
The dead will be raised back to life to a clean earth and righteous new world of mankind, they will be taught the one truth of Scripture, the earth will be restored to a paradise condition and there will be no one unrighteous there, the animals will be tame and no abuse of anykind.
Revelation 21:3,4 Psalm 37
When I read shit like this I realize again how important it is to laugh and ridicule you people off the planet.
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#29 Mar 5, 2013
Ozada wrote:
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When I read shit like this I realize again how important it is to laugh and ridicule you people off the planet.
Faith in God's word the Bible, is not the possession of all people, Jesus said only a few would fine the one road to life. Matt.7:14

I used to feel just like you, when I was a Catholic and in spiritual darkness, unhappy and never content.

“Jeezuz in the Potty”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#30 Mar 5, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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Faith in God's word the Bible, is not the possession of all people, Jesus said only a few would fine the one road to life. Matt.7:14
I used to feel just like you, when I was a Catholic and in spiritual darkness, unhappy and never content.
You have never felt like me. If you ever felt like me you would still feel like me.

There is no god. There never was a god. How can anyone have faith in something that isn't there? The biblical Jesus could not have existed.

People who believe in god have caused every man made horror that this planet has ever endured.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#31 Mar 5, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
<quoted text>
Faith in God's word the Bible, is not the possession of all people, Jesus said only a few would fine the one road to life. Matt.7:14
I used to feel just like you, when I was a Catholic and in spiritual darkness, unhappy and never content.
Then you discovered that Jehovah would make you eat your children, and the decision was instantly made. You have what you had been looking for. A god that didn't waffle, he says do and you do. Yipee!
Have you tried the barley cakes, with the added allure of dung which comes from the backside of man? Biblical recipes are something to behold, aren't they?
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#32 Mar 6, 2013
Reason Personified wrote:
<quoted text>Then you discovered that Jehovah would make you eat your children, and the decision was instantly made. You have what you had been looking for. A god that didn't waffle, he says do and you do. Yipee!
Have you tried the barley cakes, with the added allure of dung which comes from the backside of man? Biblical recipes are something to behold, aren't they?
Since you continually prove you are not "reason personified," you could never see this truth taught by Jehovah's witnesses.

You are wrong, I was born a Catholic and I believed my religion told me the truth, until I started to read the Catholic Bible. It is God's word that will open your spiritual eyes, only if you are spiritual to begin with, as I was.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#33 Mar 6, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
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Since you continually prove you are not "reason personified," you could never see this truth taught by Jehovah's witnesses.
You are wrong, I was born a Catholic and I believed my religion told me the truth, until I started to read the Catholic Bible. It is God's word that will open your spiritual eyes, only if you are spiritual to begin with, as I was.
The Catholic bible, the holy bible, no matter which tome, your god has but one source, he is born from the mind of man, and through the book he is delivered to you. The words of the holy tomes are obviously faulty, since every Jewish/Christain/Muslim derived cult has a translation that pertains only to themselves and damns the other thousands and thousands opposing Jewish/Christain/Muslim cults.

I personally(when I was a Christain)read the entire bible as if it were the perfect word of god. I found imperfections, and lots of them, I concluded that the god was a total shit. That he would make you eat your children, was more than cause enough to get out of the religitard lunacy. Tell me how being forced to eat children can be acceptable in your life. Because god said so, is that enough to make it reasonable to you? Or is that the part of the buybull put in because the god is a total shit except where his message is secretly meant for only your particular cult?

A god using a book to guide you to glory, and is using the same book (same message)that he will trick billions into hell, or at least into oblivion with no hope of reward, yeah you just enjoy that reward, while other humans who have lived better and done more for mankind lose out on heaven(because the god allows or causes the trickery).
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#34 Mar 7, 2013
God created man to enjoy life, to enjoy all the creations put on this earth, and in heaven. The many galaxies and new found truths about these and the stars are also evidence of God's love for his earthly children. Isaiah 40:26

Jehovah God and his reigning King Jesus are only dealing with this one planet, the only planet with life on it now, this planet earth will be cleansed and restored to a beautiful paradise as it was in the beginning, and only meek and obedient people will be allowed to live in God's new world of righteousness.
Psalms 37:11 and 29

Since Satan the Devil is the god of this world and imperfect mankind that has become his subjects, each person must be willing to be instructed by God's word the Bible and be obedient subjects of God's Kingdom.
Matthew 6:9,10

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#35 Mar 7, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
God created man to enjoy life, to enjoy all the creations put on this earth, and in heaven. The many galaxies and new found truths about these and the stars are also evidence of God's love for his earthly children. Isaiah 40:26
Jehovah God and his reigning King Jesus are only dealing with this one planet, the only planet with life on it now, this planet earth will be cleansed and restored to a beautiful paradise as it was in the beginning, and only meek and obedient people will be allowed to live in God's new world of righteousness.
Psalms 37:11 and 29
Since Satan the Devil is the god of this world and imperfect mankind that has become his subjects, each person must be willing to be instructed by God's word the Bible and be obedient subjects of God's Kingdom.
Matthew 6:9,10
Leviticus 26:29
True Christian witness

Bartlesville, OK

#36 Mar 8, 2013
(Leviticus 26:3-6).&#8239;.&#8239 ;.“‘If YOU continue walking in my statutes and keeping my commandments and YOU do carry them out, 4&#8239;I shall also certainly give YOUR showers of rain at their proper time, and the land will indeed give its yield, and the tree of the field will give its fruit. 5&#8239;And YOUR threshing will certainly reach to YOUR grape gathering, and the grape gathering will reach to the sowing of seed; and YOU will indeed eat YOUR bread to satisfaction and dwell in security in YOUR land. 6&#8239;And I will put peace in the land, and YOU will indeed lie down, with .&#8239;.&#8239;.

The requirements for Jehovah God's blessing after Moses led the nation out of Egypt and established God's law for his people, was that they had to be obedient to the Law and live by righteous standards. That nation of Jews did not keep their sworn promise they would, they worshipped other gods and sacrificed their children to those gods.

Jehovah God punished them by the nations around them taking their land and making those Jews their subjects,
they knew exactly what the consequences were for rejecting God's protection and blessings on them.

Before Babylon destroyed Jerusalem, they locked the Jews inside the walls, and for 18 months they had to suffer starvation, yes and they did eat their children.

(Leviticus 26:27-33).&#8239;.&#82 39;.“‘If, however, with this YOU will not listen to me and YOU just must walk in opposition to me, 28&#8239;I shall then have to walk in heated opposition to YOU, and I, yes, I, shall have to chastise YOU seven times for YOUR sins. 29&#8239;So YOU will have to eat the flesh of YOUR sons, and YOU will eat the flesh of YOUR daughters.

30&#8239;And I shall certainly annihilate YOUR sacred high places and cut off YOUR incense stands and lay YOUR own carcasses upon the carcasses of YOUR dungy idols; and my soul will simply abhor YOU. 31&#8239;And I shall indeed give YOUR cities to the sword and lay YOUR sanctuaries desolate, and I shall not smell YOUR restful odors. 32&#8239;And I, for my part, will lay the land desolate, and YOUR enemies who are dwelling in it will simply stare in amazement over it. 33&#8239;And YOU I shall scatter among the nations, and I will unsheathe a sword after YOU; and YOUR land must become a desolation, and YOUR cities will become a desolate ruin.
Lincoln LCN

United States

#37 Jun 16, 2013
RIP Christopher H.

First Amendment Case which may influence behavior in the USA

Justices Take Case on Prayer at Town Board Meetings, and a Patent Dispute

The Supreme Court on Monday agreed to decide cases concerning prayers at the start of town meetings and a patent dispute over heart monitors. It also issued an important administrative law decision that said the Federal Communications Commission was entitled to deference in determining the scope of its own jurisdiction.

Will be interesting to follow the court largely appointed by Republicans.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#38 Jun 17, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
(Leviticus 26:3-6).&#8239;.&#8239 ;.“‘If YOU continue walking in my statutes and keeping my commandments and YOU do carry them out, 4&#8239;I shall also certainly give YOUR showers of rain at their proper time, and the land will indeed give its yield, and the tree of the field will give its fruit. 5&#8239;And YOUR threshing will certainly reach to YOUR grape gathering, and the grape gathering will reach to the sowing of seed; and YOU will indeed eat YOUR bread to satisfaction and dwell in security in YOUR land. 6&#8239;And I will put peace in the land, and YOU will indeed lie down, with .&#8239;.&#8239;.
The requirements for Jehovah God's blessing after Moses led the nation out of Egypt and established God's law for his people, was that they had to be obedient to the Law and live by righteous standards. That nation of Jews did not keep their sworn promise they would, they worshipped other gods and sacrificed their children to those gods.
Jehovah God punished them by the nations around them taking their land and making those Jews their subjects,
they knew exactly what the consequences were for rejecting God's protection and blessings on them.
Before Babylon destroyed Jerusalem, they locked the Jews inside the walls, and for 18 months they had to suffer starvation, yes and they did eat their children.
(Leviticus 26:27-33).&#8239;.&#82 39;.“‘If, however, with this YOU will not listen to me and YOU just must walk in opposition to me, 28&#8239;I shall then have to walk in heated opposition to YOU, and I, yes, I, shall have to chastise YOU seven times for YOUR sins. 29&#8239;So YOU will have to eat the flesh of YOUR sons, and YOU will eat the flesh of YOUR daughters.
30&#8239;And I shall certainly annihilate YOUR sacred high places and cut off YOUR incense stands and lay YOUR own carcasses upon the carcasses of YOUR dungy idols; and my soul will simply abhor YOU. 31&#8239;And I shall indeed give YOUR cities to the sword and lay YOUR sanctuaries desolate, and I shall not smell YOUR restful odors. 32&#8239;And I, for my part, will lay the land desolate, and YOUR enemies who are dwelling in it will simply stare in amazement over it. 33&#8239;And YOU I shall scatter among the nations, and I will unsheathe a sword after YOU; and YOUR land must become a desolation, and YOUR cities will become a desolate ruin.
More lies from the cowards with no proof of god.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#39 Jun 17, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
(Leviticus 26:3-6).&#8239;.&#8239 ;.“‘If YOU continue walking in my statutes and keeping my commandments and YOU do carry them out, 4&#8239;I shall also certainly give YOUR showers of rain at their proper time, and the land will indeed give its yield, and the tree of the field will give its fruit. 5&#8239;And YOUR threshing will certainly reach to YOUR grape gathering, and the grape gathering will reach to the sowing of seed; and YOU will indeed eat YOUR bread to satisfaction and dwell in security in YOUR land. 6&#8239;And I will put peace in the land, and YOU will indeed lie down, with .&#8239;.&#8239;.
The requirements for Jehovah God's blessing after Moses led the nation out of Egypt and established God's law for his people, was that they had to be obedient to the Law and live by righteous standards. That nation of Jews did not keep their sworn promise they would, they worshipped other gods and sacrificed their children to those gods.
Jehovah God punished them by the nations around them taking their land and making those Jews their subjects,
they knew exactly what the consequences were for rejecting God's protection and blessings on them.
Before Babylon destroyed Jerusalem, they locked the Jews inside the walls, and for 18 months they had to suffer starvation, yes and they did eat their children.
(Leviticus 26:27-33).&#8239;.&#82 39;.“‘If, however, with this YOU will not listen to me and YOU just must walk in opposition to me, 28&#8239;I shall then have to walk in heated opposition to YOU, and I, yes, I, shall have to chastise YOU seven times for YOUR sins. 29&#8239;So YOU will have to eat the flesh of YOUR sons, and YOU will eat the flesh of YOUR daughters.
30&#8239;And I shall certainly annihilate YOUR sacred high places and cut off YOUR incense stands and lay YOUR own carcasses upon the carcasses of YOUR dungy idols; and my soul will simply abhor YOU. 31&#8239;And I shall indeed give YOUR cities to the sword and lay YOUR sanctuaries desolate, and I shall not smell YOUR restful odors. 32&#8239;And I, for my part, will lay the land desolate, and YOUR enemies who are dwelling in it will simply stare in amazement over it. 33&#8239;And YOU I shall scatter among the nations, and I will unsheathe a sword after YOU; and YOUR land must become a desolation, and YOUR cities will become a desolate ruin.
All over the buybull the god-myth passes the buck. He creates the scenario and has someone else carry out the details. That way, they are the reason you are under siege, and starved until you will eat your children, from hunger. That is one shitty god.

Now in Leviticus, it is a whole nother ball game, he owns it, this time he doesn't pass the buck, this time he flat out says he will be the one to punish you seven times what you deserve, and you will eat your children.

I don't care how you spin it, he is most un-godly of gods, the most unlike a father, that a thing could be. He is though very much like a witch doctor/clergy man who is grasping at ways to keep his 10% extortion moneys rolling in. And scare tactics are what works best. You will un-ass that dime, to keep from killing your children, won't you?

Don't you think that the toddlers should learn that in Sunday school? It would do so much to help make Mommie and Poppa toe the line, if the children could add their pleas to the witch doctors, Pay up, Pay up Mommie, and Poppa, pay up, please. "Jewsus loves me", is a waste, when so much more could be accomplished with Leviticus 26:29

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