Atheist Billboards come down in Charlotte, NC.

Aug 27, 2012 | Posted by: NightSerf | Full story: tucsoncitizen.com

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Cranford, NJ – American Atheists announced today that the billboards the organization had placed in Charlotte, NC, ahead of the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, criticizing Christianity and Mormonism would be coming down weeks early.
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Such hate and atrocious behavior from the religious people in this matter. Remember, this is what we'll see of religious people until better behavior is more common.
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Religious people are full of hate. They won't admit it.

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Hatred and death threats from good xtians? Say it ain't so. LOL

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Proves that christianity is a hateful religion
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Quote (from thread article), "There is a national organization called The Coalition of Reason that has put up many signs. Locally, FreeThought Arizona put up its own sign that said,“Are you good without God? Millions are” Unquote.

There are many atheist and non-religious organisations, e.g. humanists (AHA), Skeptics, Freethinkers, rationalists, Brights and others..
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/charlotteat...

http://ncsecular.org/Charlotte.html

Apart from the fact that the non-religious are dispersed amongst a wide variety of groups, there is the question of the appeal of negative campaign on USAmericans - especially moderate or thoughtful ones.

The wording of the billboards in this particular campaign might have accentuated hostility to it. It is hard to argue that the slogans aren't merely simplistic and direct attacks on organised religions.
Examples of the slogans is "Christianity: Sadistic God, useless saviour..". The intention was to contrast that with atheists as 'reasonable people', but many might ask if wouldn't reasonable people want to offer a more positive message. What positive message(s) did they offer?

I condemn absolutely any threats of harm to people or property that people made, but I do ask: at whom were the messages aimed?

Many people will have responded that reasonable people might have reasonably anticipated the threats of a fearful minority. Perhaps that reaction could have been mitigated if the billboards offered a postive view of atheism as well as simply statements of what might be seen as contempt and hostility to organised religion?

One lesson might be that Billboards advertising a positive message might be more persuasive than 'attack-ads'.

These billboards seemed aimed at getting people to give-up religion and embrace atheism? It seems to me to be more advantageous to advance mutual respect between religionists and atheists by emphasising the need for an essentially secular government and society.

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Atheist Billboards come down in Charlotte, NC.

Cranford, NJ – American Atheists announced today that the billboards the organization had placed in Charlotte, NC, ahead of the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, criticizing Christianity and Mormonism would be coming down weeks early

Eagle12:

A little respect would go a long way on a bill board. Disrespect only hurts the cause. I would loved to see the bill boards remain. Because it enrages people of faith. It lets them see into the minds of atheist.

Most people of faith don’t realize how much they’re hated and despised by atheist. The only people who can authorize the removal of the signs are the ones who put it up there in the first place.

The atheist signs were good for people of faith. Too bad they had to come down. Because they did a good job of rallying the troops. I guess the atheist didn’t have the stomach for a hell of a fight.

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Eagle12 wrote:
A little respect would go a long way on a bill board. Disrespect only hurts the cause. I would loved to see the bill boards remain. Because it enrages people of faith.
For once, we agree! There is no need for the billboards to be nasty. Logic is the best way to go.

For example: This is what your god said, "When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property.(Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)"

Does that sound like a god you want to follow?
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It lets them see into the minds of atheist.
The death threats sure shows what is in the hearts and minds of christianity!

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Another good one for a billboard!

(Deuteronomy 20:10-14)
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.

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Here's a couple that I would put up need a seafood place.

Leviticus 11:9 ESV / 56 helpful votes

“These you may eat, of all that are in the waters. Everything in the waters that has fins and scales, whether in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat.

Leviticus 11:10 ESV / 43 helpful votes

But anything in the seas or the rivers that has not fins and scales, of the swarming creatures in the waters and of the living creatures that are in the waters, is detestable to you.

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Eagle12 wrote:
The atheist signs were good for people of faith.
I am a TRUE Christian who was saved unto the Lord through the Fellowship of the Alcoholics Anonymous from whence I left alcoholism and became a Christoholic. PRAISE JESUS! The Lord revealed to me that it is OKAY to mock Mormonism as it is a pus-infested STD on the sexed-up Body of Christ. Mormons are NOT TRUE Christians. The mockery of Mormonism is in the Lord's plan and the atheists are doin' Christ's work.

I think atheists would do well to quote Yahweh and demonstrate how fake-ass Christians, like YOU, cherry pick the Bible. For example, we all know that Yahweh detests special needs children as He can't even stomach them in his Holy House: Leviticus 21: 16-23:

16 The Lord said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron:‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is a hunchback or a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the food offerings to the Lord. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the Lord, who makes them holy.’”

Atheists, yer doin' the Lord's work by quotin' rascal Yahweh. Glory!
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Proves that christianity is a hateful religion
Tell me how you feel about atheists. Then about Muslims.

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"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil; but for good people to do evil—that takes religion." - Steven Weinberg

Let's emphasize the phrase "good people" in that quote, not allowing the tiny minority of nutcases who made threats to blind us to the overwhelming majority of reasonable, rational, and loving Christians. The religion that they follow may be based on a book that expresses hostility even to its chosen people, but most Christians themselves are good friends, neighbors, and citizens.

While it's true that Christianity and Judaism are deeply flawed religions and that reading the Bible with any degree of genuine skepticism is one of the surest paths to atheism, many adherents are not really all that religious in their day-to-day lives and many of those who are follow sanitized credos, practice admirable ethics, and are open, friendly, and helpful.

Let's not judge all believers by the nutcases we tend to see here.
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"Religionists often confuse the right to believe what they want with the idea that those same beliefs have merit."

-Susan Jacoby

The Constitution does not specify that I have to respect your beliefs. Morality does not require that I respect your nonsense.

The superstitionists have been condemning non-believers and other religionists for ten thousand years. The very idea that two religions can't agree have been the catalyst for all wars.

I say the respect must come from the superstitious. They should realize that they do not have a monopoly on "freedom of speech" in this country/world. They are not this country's chosen people.
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Atheist Billboards come down in Charlotte, NC.
Cranford, NJ – American Atheists announced today that the billboards the organization had placed in Charlotte, NC, ahead of the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, criticizing Christianity and Mormonism would be coming down weeks early
Eagle12:
A little respect would go a long way on a bill board. Disrespect only hurts the cause. I would loved to see the bill boards remain. Because it enrages people of faith. It lets them see into the minds of atheist.
Most people of faith don’t realize how much they’re hated and despised by atheist. The only people who can authorize the removal of the signs are the ones who put it up there in the first place.
The atheist signs were good for people of faith. Too bad they had to come down. Because they did a good job of rallying the troops. I guess the atheist didn’t have the stomach for a hell of a fight.

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<quoted text>Tell me how you feel about atheists. Then about Muslims.
atheism isn't a religion and islam is a hatefull religion
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Eagle12 wrote:
..A little respect would go a long way on a bill board. Disrespect only hurts the cause....
True, but as nOgOd points out - one shouldn't necessarily respect people's beliefs.

We wouldn't respect a belief in witchcraft or other superstitious beliefs. Religion is no different. We wouldn't respect the idea that Satan or pixies should be worshipped. We wouldn't respect racist beliefs.

It will do religionists no harm to notice how silly supertitious beliefs appear to many of us. Beliefs like 'Jesus died for our sins','Mohammed was a prophet sent by Allah', or other similar nonsense that is unsupported by any convincing reasoning or evidence.
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atheism isn't a religion and islam is a hatefull religion
Thenyou religion seperates you from them.

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Eagle12 wrote:
A little respect would go a long way on a bill board.


From Pat Condell. My sentiments exactly:

"Yes, maybe I could show a bit more respect. The only fly in the ointment is I don't actually feel any respect ... I suppose I could lie to myself and pretend for the sake of people's feelings, because we all know how delicate and tender they can be these days, but the bald truth is I don't actually care about their feelings, at all, not even slightly.

"My conscience knows that there's no earthly reason for anybody on this planet to respect religion in any way. Indeed, purely on the evidence religion itself provides in such regular abundance, there's every reason to actively disrespect it to the point of outright abuse. And quite frankly, the fact that religion gets so little abuse compared to what it really deserves, I can only attribute to the unbelievable tolerance, restraint, and plain good manners of atheists and secularists everywhere.

"So, if you are a religious person, and if you're thinking of demanding more respect for your beliefs, please try to bear in mind that you and your religion are already getting way more respect than you’ve have ever deserved. Your faith is a joke. Your god is a joke. He's so absurd he's an embarrassment even to people who don't believe in him. And he, and you, still have it all to prove."
Eagle12 wrote:
I would loved to see the bill boards remain. Because it enrages people of faith.
We may have found common ground at last. I hope you hate them at least half as much as I hate seeing your god mentioned on my money."

If you'll be honest with yourself for a moment, you'll admit that you don't care even a little bit about that, never have, and never will - right?

Well, the felling is mutual. I have zero interest in what offends a Christian. I have no respect at all for your religion and church. And I don't mind if you're enraged.
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Most people of faith don’t realize how much they’re hated and despised by atheist.
Agreed. You've been sheltered from it for too long. We have only recently gotten a voice. Now it's your turn to hear how WE judge YOU.

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I think this says it all:-

"Large Volume of Threats by Email, Phone Ends Campaign to Question Faith in Politics"

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<quoted text>True, but as nOgOd points out - one shouldn't necessarily respect people's beliefs.
We wouldn't respect a belief in witchcraft or other superstitious beliefs. Religion is no different. We wouldn't respect the idea that Satan or pixies should be worshipped. We wouldn't respect racist beliefs.
It will do religionists no harm to notice how silly supertitious beliefs appear to many of us. Beliefs like 'Jesus died for our sins','Mohammed was a prophet sent by Allah', or other similar nonsense that is unsupported by any convincing reasoning or evidence.
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the sense and to the extent that we respect his theory that his wife is beautiful and his children smart." ~ H. L. Mencken

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Eagle12 wrote:
Atheist Billboards come down in Charlotte, NC.
Cranford, NJ – American Atheists announced today that the billboards the organization had placed in Charlotte, NC, ahead of the Republican and Democratic National Conventions, criticizing Christianity and Mormonism would be coming down weeks early
Eagle12:
A little respect would go a long way on a bill board. Disrespect only hurts the cause. I would loved to see the bill boards remain. Because it enrages people of faith. It lets them see into the minds of atheist.
Most people of faith don’t realize how much they’re hated and despised by atheist. The only people who can authorize the removal of the signs are the ones who put it up there in the first place.
The atheist signs were good for people of faith. Too bad they had to come down. Because they did a good job of rallying the troops. I guess the atheist didn’t have the stomach for a hell of a fight.
Why don't you guys buy a gigantic billboard and put the proof of your god on it. I will pay for it.

Oh wait, you don't have any proof of god. That's right, your entire cult is a sham that attempts to lie to people shamelessly and openly.

And you want compassion for liars. I think that's how crucifixions came about - when a whole society ousted a confidence trickster called jesus.

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